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Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 19 Jul 14 12.21pm
Don't agree with you Brauny. We're finally looking to fulfil our massive potential. They on the other hand are just punching above their weight. Edited by Brentmiester_General (19 Jul 2014 12.28pm) "We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

Brentmiester_General

Front line in the battle against t... 19 Jul 14 12.21pm

Don't agree with you Brauny. We're finally looking to fulfil our massive potential. They on the other hand are just punching above their weight.

Edited by Brentmiester_General (19 Jul 2014 12.28pm)

"We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 19 Jul 14 12.45pm
Quote Brentmiester_General at 19 Jul 2014 12.21pm Don't agree with you Brauny. We're finally looking to fulfil our massive potential. They on the other hand are just punching above their weight. Edited by Brentmiester_General (19 Jul 2014 12.28pm) Recent history would suggest otherwise tho Brent...whether or not it is built on wealth is irellivent really. We are doing things the correct way...but there's that old adage that nice guys finish last. I don't want us to to go down the qpr route but they will attract players over us because of it, ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

braunstoneagle

the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 19 Jul 14 12.45pm

Quote Brentmiester_General at 19 Jul 2014 12.21pm

Don't agree with you Brauny. We're finally looking to fulfil our massive potential. They on the other hand are just punching above their weight.

Edited by Brentmiester_General (19 Jul 2014 12.28pm)

Recent history would suggest otherwise tho Brent...whether or not it is built on wealth is irellivent really.

We are doing things the correct way...but there's that old adage that nice guys finish last.

I don't want us to to go down the qpr route but they will attract players over us because of it,

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

EagleLegend97 London 19 Jul 14 1.17pm
Quote black eagle. at 19 Jul 2014 12.18pm Hull had a £2.5 million bid turned down for Mcquire yesterday, time to gazump Hull me tinks. If I'm honest, I'd rather have Caulker for 8 million than Maguire for anything over 2.5 million. Yes he's a good prospect, but he hasn't even played at championship level yet, let alone premier league. No way is he worth more than that. 8 million for Caulker is still a lot, but at least we would be getting a player with some PL experience.

EagleLegend97

London 19 Jul 14 1.17pm

Quote black eagle. at 19 Jul 2014 12.18pm

Hull had a £2.5 million bid turned down for Mcquire yesterday, time to gazump Hull me tinks.

If I'm honest, I'd rather have Caulker for 8 million than Maguire for anything over 2.5 million. Yes he's a good prospect, but he hasn't even played at championship level yet, let alone premier league. No way is he worth more than that. 8 million for Caulker is still a lot, but at least we would be getting a player with some PL experience.

Sg Bilko Deurne Holland 19 Jul 14 2.12pm
Quote JL85 at 19 Jul 2014 9.07am Quote Andy_G at 19 Jul 2014 8.25am Quote alffy at 19 Jul 2014 8.09am PSG were banned from signing players and 2 days later bought Luiz. The whole thing is completely pointless. Barcelona are technically banned and signed luiz Suarez No place for ethics and morales in football, you either get with the dark arts or fail. So were Chelsea for the whole Gael Kakuta saga. Clubs get banned, it goes to the Court of Sport Arbitration or whatever its called and the ban gets suspended until the final ruling which, considering how long ago Chelsea were actually banned, will take years. Edited by JL85 (19 Jul 2014 9.08am) Chelsea were banned by FIFA on 3rd Sept 2009 over the Kakuta signing, they appealed that decision to CAS (Court of Arbitration in Sport) which was their right, on 5th Feb 2010, only 5 months later they were cleared by CAS because French club Lens had failed to sign the player on contract, Chelsea paid Lens ±£800,000 they could have paid much less than they gave Lens, but Lens failure to provide the necessary contract meant they were entitled to only a nominal compensation payment as the player was only 15.

Sg Bilko

Deurne Holland 19 Jul 14 2.12pm

Quote JL85 at 19 Jul 2014 9.07am

Quote Andy_G at 19 Jul 2014 8.25am

Quote alffy at 19 Jul 2014 8.09am

PSG were banned from signing players and 2 days later bought Luiz. The whole thing is completely pointless.

Barcelona are technically banned and signed luiz Suarez

No place for ethics and morales in football, you either get with the dark arts or fail.

So were Chelsea for the whole Gael Kakuta saga. Clubs get banned, it goes to the Court of Sport Arbitration or whatever its called and the ban gets suspended until the final ruling which, considering how long ago Chelsea were actually banned, will take years.

Edited by JL85 (19 Jul 2014 9.08am)

Chelsea were banned by FIFA on 3rd Sept 2009 over the Kakuta signing, they appealed that decision to CAS (Court of Arbitration in Sport) which was their right, on 5th Feb 2010, only 5 months later they were cleared by CAS because French club Lens had failed to sign the player on contract, Chelsea paid Lens ±£800,000 they could have paid much less than they gave Lens, but Lens failure to provide the necessary contract meant they were entitled to only a nominal compensation payment as the player was only 15.

Gary St.Andrews Kenley 19 Jul 14 4.05pm
Quote braunstoneagle at 19 Jul 2014 12.17pm Let's be honest here...qpr are a bigger draw than us. New stadium coming, owners who will spend decent money on signings & wages. If we're being completely honest they have as much chance of staying up this season as we do. I love palace to bits but sometimes we have to take off the tinted specs, and look at things with a rational POV I thought i read somewhere that QPR were in the mire with an 80 million debt, perhaps i was dreaming it...

Gary St.Andrews

Kenley 19 Jul 14 4.05pm

Quote braunstoneagle at 19 Jul 2014 12.17pm

Let's be honest here...qpr are a bigger draw than us.

New stadium coming, owners who will spend decent money on signings & wages.

If we're being completely honest they have as much chance of staying up this season as we do.

I love palace to bits but sometimes we have to take off the tinted specs, and look at things with a rational POV

I thought i read somewhere that QPR were in the mire with an 80 million debt, perhaps i was dreaming it...

OllieMaidstoneEagle Maidstone, Kent 19 Jul 14 4.45pm
Quote Gary St.Andrews at 19 Jul 2014 9.42am Steven Caulker let's see 1. Sold by Spurs, why? 2. Bought by Cardiff who were relegated. 3. Cardiff terrible defensive record last season which he seemed to be spared any blame. 4. When i witnessed his performances thought he seemed to be out of position and his distribution was poor. 5. His over inflated fee of 8 million pounds. So in a nutshell why would anyone sign him let alone us, oh and he doesn't want to join Palace... Hope he goes to QPR..... Well said Gary.As I said early on in this thread,Caulker has too many minus points for an £8M player! What's the chances of him getting relegated twice in successive seasons? Ollie's Dad,Ash. Red and Blue Army! LONDON BORN PALACE BRED LIVE AND DIE FOR BLUE AND RED Football is not just a game, its a religion

OllieMaidstoneEagle

Maidstone, Kent 19 Jul 14 4.45pm

Quote Gary St.Andrews at 19 Jul 2014 9.42am

Steven Caulker let's see
1. Sold by Spurs, why?
2. Bought by Cardiff who were relegated.
3. Cardiff terrible defensive record last season which he seemed to be spared any blame.
4. When i witnessed his performances thought he seemed to be out of position and his distribution was poor.
5. His over inflated fee of 8 million pounds.

So in a nutshell why would anyone sign him let alone us, oh and he doesn't want to join Palace...

Hope he goes to QPR.....

Well said Gary.As I said early on in this thread,Caulker has too many minus points for an £8M player! What's the chances of him getting relegated twice in successive seasons? Ollie's Dad,Ash.

Red and Blue Army!
LONDON BORN PALACE BRED LIVE AND DIE FOR BLUE AND RED
Football is not just a game, its a religion

Stuart Shave Hampshire 19 Jul 14 4.47pm
Quote Gary St.Andrews at 19 Jul 2014 4.05pm Quote braunstoneagle at 19 Jul 2014 12.17pm Let's be honest here...qpr are a bigger draw than us. New stadium coming, owners who will spend decent money on signings & wages. If we're being completely honest they have as much chance of staying up this season as we do. I love palace to bits but sometimes we have to take off the tinted specs, and look at things with a rational POV I thought i read somewhere that QPR were in the mire with an 80 million debt, perhaps i was dreaming it... But what does any footballer care about a club having £80 million debt? As long as the club pays him what he wants. I love the way we do things and the way our club is run, but it also means we will lose out in signing certain players - but at least we will always know that when players do arrive, it's because they want to play for Palace and not for x amount of money. That sits much better with me than some greedy over rated Premiership player arriving to just count the cash. Edited by Stuart Shave (19 Jul 2014 4.48pm)

Stuart Shave

Hampshire 19 Jul 14 4.47pm

Quote Gary St.Andrews at 19 Jul 2014 4.05pm

Quote braunstoneagle at 19 Jul 2014 12.17pm

Let's be honest here...qpr are a bigger draw than us.

New stadium coming, owners who will spend decent money on signings & wages.

If we're being completely honest they have as much chance of staying up this season as we do.

I love palace to bits but sometimes we have to take off the tinted specs, and look at things with a rational POV

I thought i read somewhere that QPR were in the mire with an 80 million debt, perhaps i was dreaming it...

But what does any footballer care about a club having £80 million debt? As long as the club pays him what he wants.

I love the way we do things and the way our club is run, but it also means we will lose out in signing certain players - but at least we will always know that when players do arrive, it's because they want to play for Palace and not for x amount of money. That sits much better with me than some greedy over rated Premiership player arriving to just count the cash.

Edited by Stuart Shave (19 Jul 2014 4.48pm)

bexleydave Barnehurst 19 Jul 14 4.59pm
Quote Stuart Shave at 19 Jul 2014 4.47pm but at least we will always know that when players do arrive, it's because they want to play for Palace and not for x amount of money. That sits much better with me than some greedy over rated Premiership player arriving to just count the cash. Edited by Stuart Shave (19 Jul 2014 4.48pm) Absolutely. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

bexleydave

Barnehurst 19 Jul 14 4.59pm

Quote Stuart Shave at 19 Jul 2014 4.47pm

but at least we will always know that when players do arrive, it's because they want to play for Palace and not for x amount of money. That sits much better with me than some greedy over rated Premiership player arriving to just count the cash.

Edited by Stuart Shave (19 Jul 2014 4.48pm)

Absolutely.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

Carrick In the Premierleague 19 Jul 14 5.10pm
Let him go...! Anyone remember what happened to Darren Bent and Fulham last season, mwahahahahahahaha Edited by Carrick (19 Jul 2014 5.11pm) Disclaimer The contains of the this message may not be the sober views of the originator. Often the orginator is overloaded with alcohol therefore waffle often gets posted to which the orginator has no responsibility.

Carrick

In the Premierleague 19 Jul 14 5.10pm

Let him go...!

Anyone remember what happened to Darren Bent and Fulham last season, mwahahahahahahaha

Edited by Carrick (19 Jul 2014 5.11pm)

Disclaimer The contains of the this message may not be the sober views of the originator. Often the orginator is overloaded with alcohol therefore waffle often gets posted to which the orginator has no responsibility.

Booted Eagle Bristol 19 Jul 14 7.06pm
Quote Stuart Shave at 19 Jul 2014 4.47pm Quote Gary St.Andrews at 19 Jul 2014 4.05pm Quote braunstoneagle at 19 Jul 2014 12.17pm Let's be honest here...qpr are a bigger draw than us. New stadium coming, owners who will spend decent money on signings & wages. If we're being completely honest they have as much chance of staying up this season as we do. I love palace to bits but sometimes we have to take off the tinted specs, and look at things with a rational POV I thought i read somewhere that QPR were in the mire with an 80 million debt, perhaps i was dreaming it... But what does any footballer care about a club having £80 million debt? As long as the club pays him what he wants. I love the way we do things and the way our club is run, but it also means we will lose out in signing certain players - but at least we will always know that when players do arrive, it's because they want to play for Palace and not for x amount of money. That sits much better with me than some greedy over rated Premiership player arriving to just count the cash. Edited by Stuart Shave (19 Jul 2014 4.48pm) Very true. We can't compete financially with most in this league in anycase. Look at the transfers recently. WBA, Sunderland, West Ham have all bought players in the £10-14 million range. However we have much more than a large wallet around the club as we all know. Based on the last transfer window I think we will get the right quality of new players. Only fools rush in. “ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ” —United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

Booted Eagle

Bristol 19 Jul 14 7.06pm

Quote Stuart Shave at 19 Jul 2014 4.47pm

Quote Gary St.Andrews at 19 Jul 2014 4.05pm

Quote braunstoneagle at 19 Jul 2014 12.17pm

Let's be honest here...qpr are a bigger draw than us.

New stadium coming, owners who will spend decent money on signings & wages.

If we're being completely honest they have as much chance of staying up this season as we do.

I love palace to bits but sometimes we have to take off the tinted specs, and look at things with a rational POV

I thought i read somewhere that QPR were in the mire with an 80 million debt, perhaps i was dreaming it...

But what does any footballer care about a club having £80 million debt? As long as the club pays him what he wants.

Edited by Stuart Shave (19 Jul 2014 4.48pm)

Very true. We can't compete financially with most in this league in anycase. Look at the transfers recently. WBA, Sunderland, West Ham have all bought players in the £10-14 million range. However we have much more than a large wallet around the club as we all know. Based on the last transfer window I think we will get the right quality of new players. Only fools rush in.

“ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

Happiness Stan Itchycoo Park 19 Jul 14 9.21pm
I'd like to think that a player, whilst obv wanted the best offer financially, wd also consider that having already got one prem relegation to their name, they wd sure as f*** want to avoid another the following season. I don't understand the draw of playing alongside rio either. He was very good (tho over rated) about 3 years ago, his legs have since gone and playing alongside him wd mean doing the running for him. I rate caulker and think signing him wd almost guarantee safety. Him and dann cd build a very strong partnership for the team to be built around for years. "How can I remember to keep it all together when half the moon is taken away?"

Happiness Stan

Itchycoo Park 19 Jul 14 9.21pm

I'd like to think that a player, whilst obv wanted the best offer financially, wd also consider that having already got one prem relegation to their name, they wd sure as f*** want to avoid another the following season.

I don't understand the draw of playing alongside rio either. He was very good (tho over rated) about 3 years ago, his legs have since gone and playing alongside him wd mean doing the running for him.

I rate caulker and think signing him wd almost guarantee safety. Him and dann cd build a very strong partnership for the team to be built around for years.

"How can I remember to keep it all together when half the moon is taken away?"

Skinster 20 Jul 14 12.10am
Who gives a f*** about Caulker...our defence aint the problem! £8m..... laughable...Loic Remy is £8M... Nothin wrong with Del Boy and Dann.... they defend first and formost! Let QPR have him ...Ferdinand and Caulker as there back 2..... relegation looms!

Skinster

20 Jul 14 12.10am

Who gives a f*** about Caulker...our defence aint the problem!
£8m..... laughable...Loic Remy is £8M...

Nothin wrong with Del Boy and Dann.... they defend first and formost!

Let QPR have him ...Ferdinand and Caulker as there back 2..... relegation looms!

Gary St.Andrews Kenley 20 Jul 14 9.35am
Quote Skinster at 20 Jul 2014 12.10am Who gives a f*** about Caulker...our defence aint the problem! £8m..... laughable...Loic Remy is £8M... Nothin wrong with Del Boy and Dann.... they defend first and formost! Let QPR have him ...Ferdinand and Caulker as there back 2..... relegation looms! QPR are 1 of my 3 to go down, along with Burnley and Southampton. If playing alongside Ferdinand for a year is going to do him good, i would be really surprised. Ferdinand will do his usual trick of picking up an injury and go missing for 4 months, leaving Caulker very exposed, Harry's clutching at straws with this one...

Gary St.Andrews

Kenley 20 Jul 14 9.35am

Quote Skinster at 20 Jul 2014 12.10am

Who gives a f*** about Caulker...our defence aint the problem!
£8m..... laughable...Loic Remy is £8M...

Nothin wrong with Del Boy and Dann.... they defend first and formost!

Let QPR have him ...Ferdinand and Caulker as there back 2..... relegation looms!

QPR are 1 of my 3 to go down, along with Burnley and Southampton. If playing alongside Ferdinand for a year is going to do him good, i would be really surprised.

Ferdinand will do his usual trick of picking up an injury and go missing for 4 months, leaving Caulker very exposed, Harry's clutching at straws with this one...

MPE Maidstone 21 Jul 14 4.48pm
He seems to be stalling on signing for QPR, obviously hanging about for a better offer? Just when I thought that I was out...........they pull me back in

MPE

Maidstone 21 Jul 14 4.48pm

He seems to be stalling on signing for QPR, obviously hanging about for a better offer?

Just when I thought that I was out...........they pull me back in

sydtheeagle England 21 Jul 14 5.16pm
Quote MPE at 21 Jul 2014 4.48pm He seems to be stalling on signing for QPR, obviously hanging about for a better offer? Yep, I've said this all along. Caulker will not sign anywhere until Liverpool sign Lovren or whichever other centre back they're after and it is clear to him the big club door is closed. At that point, I suspect he will sit down and decide among the offers he does have on the table. And I really doubt QPR are far, if at all, ahead of us in that race. Which is all fair enough, really. Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

sydtheeagle

England 21 Jul 14 5.16pm

Quote MPE at 21 Jul 2014 4.48pm

He seems to be stalling on signing for QPR, obviously hanging about for a better offer?

Yep, I've said this all along. Caulker will not sign anywhere until Liverpool sign Lovren or whichever other centre back they're after and it is clear to him the big club door is closed. At that point, I suspect he will sit down and decide among the offers he does have on the table. And I really doubt QPR are far, if at all, ahead of us in that race. Which is all fair enough, really.

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

MPE Maidstone 21 Jul 14 5.20pm
Quote sydtheeagle at 21 Jul 2014 5.16pm Quote MPE at 21 Jul 2014 4.48pm He seems to be stalling on signing for QPR, obviously hanging about for a better offer? Yep, I've said this all along. Caulker will not sign anywhere until Liverpool sign Lovren or whichever other centre back they're after and it is clear to him the big club door is closed. At that point, I suspect he will sit down and decide among the offers he does have on the table. And I really doubt QPR are far, if at all, ahead of us in that race. Which is all fair enough, really. Reports say QPR and Southampton have had offers accepted, no mention of us anymore? Just when I thought that I was out...........they pull me back in

MPE

Maidstone 21 Jul 14 5.20pm

Quote sydtheeagle at 21 Jul 2014 5.16pm

Quote MPE at 21 Jul 2014 4.48pm

He seems to be stalling on signing for QPR, obviously hanging about for a better offer?

Reports say QPR and Southampton have had offers accepted, no mention of us anymore?

Just when I thought that I was out...........they pull me back in

Petereagle Brockley 21 Jul 14 7.28pm
Quote sydtheeagle at 21 Jul 2014 5.16pm Quote MPE at 21 Jul 2014 4.48pm He seems to be stalling on signing for QPR, obviously hanging about for a better offer? Yep, I've said this all along. Caulker will not sign anywhere until Liverpool sign Lovren or whichever other centre back they're after and it is clear to him the big club door is closed. At that point, I suspect he will sit down and decide among the offers he does have on the table. And I really doubt QPR are far, if at all, ahead of us in that race. Which is all fair enough, really. I think you're right. If the big club door closes then he might not rate Southampton (too many changes?), which leaves CP and QPR to fight it out. QPR are a bit of an unknown quantity and will have signed loadsa players who might not jell, or CP with a more settled squad and a superb defensive manager.

Petereagle

Brockley 21 Jul 14 7.28pm

Quote sydtheeagle at 21 Jul 2014 5.16pm

Quote MPE at 21 Jul 2014 4.48pm

He seems to be stalling on signing for QPR, obviously hanging about for a better offer?

I think you're right. If the big club door closes then he might not rate Southampton (too many changes?), which leaves CP and QPR to fight it out. QPR are a bit of an unknown quantity and will have signed loadsa players who might not jell, or CP with a more settled squad and a superb defensive manager.

braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 21 Jul 14 7.45pm
Quote Petereagle at 21 Jul 2014 7.28pm Quote sydtheeagle at 21 Jul 2014 5.16pm Quote MPE at 21 Jul 2014 4.48pm He seems to be stalling on signing for QPR, obviously hanging about for a better offer? Yep, I've said this all along. Caulker will not sign anywhere until Liverpool sign Lovren or whichever other centre back they're after and it is clear to him the big club door is closed. At that point, I suspect he will sit down and decide among the offers he does have on the table. And I really doubt QPR are far, if at all, ahead of us in that race. Which is all fair enough, really. I think you're right. If the big club door closes then he might not rate Southampton (too many changes?), which leaves CP and QPR to fight it out. QPR are a bit of an unknown quantity and will have signed loadsa players who might not jell, or CP with a more settled squad and a superb defensive manager. qpr will more than likely know what weve offered him and better it...which more than likely means he will sign for them. and harry redknapp is a more fashionable manager, it shouldnt matter but probably will. ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

braunstoneagle

the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 21 Jul 14 7.45pm

Quote Petereagle at 21 Jul 2014 7.28pm

Quote sydtheeagle at 21 Jul 2014 5.16pm

Quote MPE at 21 Jul 2014 4.48pm

He seems to be stalling on signing for QPR, obviously hanging about for a better offer?

qpr will more than likely know what weve offered him and better it...which more than likely means he will sign for them.

and harry redknapp is a more fashionable manager, it shouldnt matter but probably will.

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

sydtheeagle England 21 Jul 14 10.00pm
Quote Petereagle at 21 Jul 2014 7.28pm I think you're right. If the big club door closes then he might not rate Southampton (too many changes?), which leaves CP and QPR to fight it out. QPR are a bit of an unknown quantity and will have signed loads a players who might not jell, or CP with a more settled squad and a superb defensive manager. We also, in my view -- another Syd conspiracy theory coming up -- have another hidden advantage. If you were Caulker or any other young English player facing the Southampton-QPR-Palace decision, whose opinion/advice would you want? Woy, anyone? I mean, if you have international ambitions, wouldn't you want to ask the England manager whether going to one club or another would make a difference to your prospects? And as we all know, England are managed by a Croydon boy whose number 2 is an ex-Palace manager himself... Might not make a difference but damn sure it can't hurt! Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

sydtheeagle

England 21 Jul 14 10.00pm

Quote Petereagle at 21 Jul 2014 7.28pm

I think you're right. If the big club door closes then he might not rate Southampton (too many changes?), which leaves CP and QPR to fight it out. QPR are a bit of an unknown quantity and will have signed loads a players who might not jell, or CP with a more settled squad and a superb defensive manager.

We also, in my view -- another Syd conspiracy theory coming up -- have another hidden advantage. If you were Caulker or any other young English player facing the Southampton-QPR-Palace decision, whose opinion/advice would you want? Woy, anyone? I mean, if you have international ambitions, wouldn't you want to ask the England manager whether going to one club or another would make a difference to your prospects? And as we all know, England are managed by a Croydon boy whose number 2 is an ex-Palace manager himself... Might not make a difference but damn sure it can't hurt!

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

laddo london 21 Jul 14 11.14pm
Micah Richards is reportedly available for 7m. There are other options out there. laddo "People say, live fast, die young. I say live fast, die old. That's me, the non-conformist". David Brent.

laddo

london 21 Jul 14 11.14pm

Micah Richards is reportedly available for 7m. There are other options out there.

laddo

"People say, live fast, die young. I say live fast, die old. That's me, the non-conformist".
David Brent.

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