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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Read up on our accounts, % wages to revenue, money lost each year, how hamstrung we are with regards to transfers, main stand to build with either US money gone or never there anyway, plus Badger’s post at 11.45am. Selling your best players is only likely to get you relegated. Then the financial brown stuff will surely hit the fan.
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Originally posted by CrazyBadger
You're Selling a very idealistic idea of modern football. Of course we shouldn't need to sell players and it should be on our Terms when it is, but with the amount Of money in football nowadays this is the harsh reality. I'd Love for football to go back to the 80s way Of agentless players getting paid in peanuts and lager, and player power was a pipedream kept locked away in one of Brain Cloughs sock drawers. but it aint. It's a money making cash cow - one which as a result is much more Accessible to many fans than its 80s grandparent - with mercenery players (who may actually have some kind of future after retirement) and the threat of Liquidation over the next hill. It is because of modern football revenues that PL teams do not need to sell.
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As much as I don't want AWB to go, if Manure offer us 50 + million for him, it's a no brainer.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Selling your best players is only likely to get you relegated. Then the financial brown stuff will surely hit the fan. If your best player is a right back then you're likely to get relegated. AWB is the best full back I've seen at Palace since Ashley Cole on loan. However, £50-60m is incredible money and could allow us to strengthen in areas that would improve the team as a whole. If AWB keeps Wilf - our best player IMO - and bring in a striker and someone of Aaron Mooy or Seri's ilk plus one or two frees that we might not have gone for then that would have more of an impact than keeping AWB. Genuinely how many points do you think AWB won us last year compared to what a midfielder that could set up a striker or a striker that could finish would get us in comparison?
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Originally posted by rollercoaster
He's only had one season. It was reported he was having to be told by the centrebacks where to position himself. He gets caught out timing his forward runs so goals were being scored behind him during the latter part of the season. He really is not the finished article and it is no wonder he hasn't been called up to the senior England team yet. Yes, he had a very good season and he has a lot of potential but he remains a bit of a gamble. I cannot see his value going up, beyond player inflation, so on balance I think selling for 50+ is the right thing to do. Like every transfer in or out it could backfire. Most of us complained like crazy when Bolasie was sold but in hindsight we got the best of that particular deal. This re-iterates my viewpoint,expressed on HOL, that AWB is very much a work-in-progress and as such is certainly not the finished article.A winger converted to a right-back and he still has a lot to learn in this position.
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Originally posted by Willo
This re-iterates my viewpoint,expressed on HOL, that AWB is very much a work-in-progress and as such is certainly not the finished article.A winger converted to a right-back and he still has a lot to learn in this position. His tackling is sublime at times, in a sanitised age - it's great to see perfectly timed tackles.
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Originally posted by brownsugar
Aaron Wan Bissaka is a one off and will get much much better. I would expect Steve Parish and the board to understand that to sell him now would be throwing away millions.......he is only 21 and will be hugely improved after another season, he will attract more media praise and attention and he will be an established premier league player; his value will skyrocket. It would be foolish to sell him for £60 or £65 million now. Also, I want to watch him play for Palace and not Man Utd! Or... he tears an ACL week one. Doesn’t play all season and is worth nothing going forwards. Nothing is a certainty and this is great money
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Selling your best players is only likely to get you relegated. Then the financial brown stuff will surely hit the fan. Tottenham sold Bale They both profited.
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Originally posted by braunstoneagle
lets not also forget we do actually need to raise some money as we are losing it hand over foot. Have you seen the last few years' accounts? I haven't, so perhaps you could tell us how much money we're losing per week, or month, or whatever. I'm genuinely interested to know.
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Originally posted by Master Coin
Hrolf has decided that PL money is in some way infinite and when you’ve made that (incorrect) conclusion it leads to thinking we never need to sell ever. And unfortunately it means he can’t be reasoned with. As others have pointed out we have an unsustainable wage bill (even with PL income) and need to sell to keep afloat and/or reduce the wage structure. It’s amazing how politically conservative members are the opposite with club finances (Hrolf hugely). And then Gusset was in agreement with keeping club finances under control but given half the chance would bankrupt the country within a year if he was a Labour chancellor of the exchequer. Edited by Rudi Hedman (13 Jun 2019 8.33am)
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yeah a good few of them Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig
Weed, coke, smack, spice...cake? Or are you up a mountain?
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Originally posted by Vaibow
I remember in the new year i said we should look to selling both AWB and zaha this summer and using the money to reinvest in players, allowing roy to buy 4/5 he wants to complete his squad on targets we have been looking at for some time. I was laughed out of here. It's very obvious this season is a new chapter for us, zaha was always destined to go and awb was unknown 18 months ago, to think we've made 50 mil off him is crazy good - this is one reason why the acadamy is so important. Sure, he is talented, but we won't miss him if we bring a decent prem experienced or prospect in. However, all i would say is this.. if we didn't have 7 managers in as many years, each buying their own players and changing things.... we could be in a position now where zaha doesn't want to go, where we can push on with the likes of awb and added investment to get us that top 7 finish. Hopefully after this summer, we have a period of mid table football where we are looking at 7th, not 17th as the benchmark. It’ll come as no surprise that clubs with decent player scouting also are good at spotting managers whereas we have bought mostly proven players and escape artist managers. It’s caught up with us but luckily we haven’t been relegated and AWB and Zaha offer a way of balancing the club and managing Wilf leaving before he’s either crocked or lost his edge or retired. I can’t say I’m confident though unless the manager makes the right choices.
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
It’ll come as no surprise that clubs with decent player scouting also are good at spotting managers whereas we have bought mostly proven players and escape artist managers. It’s caught up with us but luckily we haven’t been relegated and AWB and Zaha offer a way of balancing the club and managing Wilf leaving before he’s either crocked or lost his edge or retired. I can’t say I’m confident though unless the manager makes the right choices. I can’t say I’m confident that it's the manager's choices to make
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