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Eaglecoops CR3 08 Jul 20 11.56am
Originally posted by xomnea For the first time in a long time I was so despondent after the Leicester game that I realised I needed a game off. The culmination of Zaha not looking bothered, Hodgson refusing to give it a go, not throwing the young and hungry Pierrick in, Brighton doing well, multiple players on absurdly high wages not performing and the final dagger of Sakho's cruyff turn had basically finished me off. I'd stopped caring about anything, would have given my TV away if someone asked for it. Didn't watch last night, checked the result after and missed a Zaha wonderping, a Benteke goal and the type of performance I have personally been crying out for. Now excited to watch again on Saturday, glad I've still got a tv. Very good :-) Your and Willo’s posts sum it up. If we were in an identical position in the league playing the football we played in the second half yesterday there would be no complaints from me at all.

Eaglecoops

CR3 08 Jul 20 11.56am

Originally posted by xomnea

For the first time in a long time I was so despondent after the Leicester game that I realised I needed a game off.
The culmination of Zaha not looking bothered, Hodgson refusing to give it a go, not throwing the young and hungry Pierrick in, Brighton doing well, multiple players on absurdly high wages not performing and the final dagger of Sakho's cruyff turn had basically finished me off. I'd stopped caring about anything, would have given my TV away if someone asked for it.
Didn't watch last night, checked the result after and missed a Zaha wonderping, a Benteke goal and the type of performance I have personally been crying out for.
Now excited to watch again on Saturday, glad I've still got a tv.

Very good :-) Your and Willo’s posts sum it up. If we were in an identical position in the league playing the football we played in the second half yesterday there would be no complaints from me at all.

jeeagles 08 Jul 20 12.07pm
Originally posted by xomnea For the first time in a long time I was so despondent after the Leicester game that I realised I needed a game off. The culmination of Zaha not looking bothered, Hodgson refusing to give it a go, not throwing the young and hungry Pierrick in, Brighton doing well, multiple players on absurdly high wages not performing and the final dagger of Sakho's cruyff turn had basically finished me off. I'd stopped caring about anything, would have given my TV away if someone asked for it. Didn't watch last night, checked the result after and missed a Zaha wonderping, a Benteke goal and the type of performance I have personally been crying out for. Now excited to watch again on Saturday, glad I've still got a tv. Not sure what we can take from last nights game. Giroud's goal was fairly fortunate, but we looked dead and burried after half an hour. Chelsea seemed to swith off and Zaha hammered in a wonder goal. The whole team seemed to gain confidence from that. Chelsea again probably switched off when we scored our second. Can't really critise the manager for loosing to a better team, prehaps we should have thrown caution to the wind earlier, used all our subs and sought an equaliser. But then a 3-2 defeat to Chelsea doesn't look bad on paper as the experience of not watching the game shows. My critisms of Roy last night are pretty minor. Although, not seeing anything inspirational from him either. Please for the love of god, do not stick everyone behind the ball against Villa when we have nothing left to play for.

jeeagles

08 Jul 20 12.07pm

Originally posted by xomnea

Not sure what we can take from last nights game. Giroud's goal was fairly fortunate, but we looked dead and burried after half an hour. Chelsea seemed to swith off and Zaha hammered in a wonder goal. The whole team seemed to gain confidence from that. Chelsea again probably switched off when we scored our second. Can't really critise the manager for loosing to a better team, prehaps we should have thrown caution to the wind earlier, used all our subs and sought an equaliser. But then a 3-2 defeat to Chelsea doesn't look bad on paper as the experience of not watching the game shows. My critisms of Roy last night are pretty minor. Although, not seeing anything inspirational from him either.

Please for the love of god, do not stick everyone behind the ball against Villa when we have nothing left to play for.

southnorwoodhill 08 Jul 20 4.32pm
Irrespective of the fact that we scored 2 and made a good fist of it in the end, the fact is we were 2 down after half an hour and looking extremely flat and uninspired. What does Hodgson say to them to motivate them?

southnorwoodhill

08 Jul 20 4.32pm

Irrespective of the fact that we scored 2 and made a good fist of it in the end, the fact is we were 2 down after half an hour and looking extremely flat and uninspired. What does Hodgson say to them to motivate them?

A1969Eagle Redhill 08 Jul 20 5.39pm
why buy "Roy" players when hes only planning to be here one more season.. thats a expensive mistake for the next manager, plus as player being asked to join Palace, when he knows the manager will be going, why would he come except for the "bucks"... Originally posted by Den1923 That may be true but Roy has to be realistic if he thinks they are not good enough then he is not going to pick them and the form shows that may be also true. Likewise other clubs are not going to want to take loan players from a u23 team that is bottom of their league!

A1969Eagle

Redhill 08 Jul 20 5.39pm

why buy "Roy" players when hes only planning to be here one more season.. thats a expensive mistake for the next manager, plus as player being asked to join Palace, when he knows the manager will be going, why would he come except for the "bucks"...

Originally posted by Den1923

That may be true but Roy has to be realistic if he thinks they are not good enough then he is not going to pick them and the form shows that may be also true. Likewise other clubs are not going to want to take loan players from a u23 team that is bottom of their league!

Den1923 09 Jul 20 6.05pm
Originally posted by A1969Eagle why buy "Roy" players when hes only planning to be here one more season.. thats a expensive mistake for the next manager, plus as player being asked to join Palace, when he knows the manager will be going, why would he come except for the "bucks"... not so expensive when you take in to consideration if we don't and then get relegated which is a real possibility based on current form then the lost revenue to the club would be enormous and we would end up with a team that is totally unsuitable for the championship and over £120 mil a year worse off!

Den1923

09 Jul 20 6.05pm

Originally posted by A1969Eagle

why buy "Roy" players when hes only planning to be here one more season.. thats a expensive mistake for the next manager, plus as player being asked to join Palace, when he knows the manager will be going, why would he come except for the "bucks"...

not so expensive when you take in to consideration if we don't and then get relegated which is a real possibility based on current form then the lost revenue to the club would be enormous and we would end up with a team that is totally unsuitable for the championship and over £120 mil a year worse off!

Vaibow vancouver/croydon 10 Jul 20 2.41am
I want to see the team playing to it's best ability... with passion and wanting it... ofcourse we allow an off day.... But that's all I want, heart and passion... I don't care about the result as over the course oft he seasons e are good enough for mid table and that's fine, but don't sit there with ya pants down waiting for the opposition to take turns. This was once a quality forum....

Vaibow

vancouver/croydon 10 Jul 20 2.41am

I want to see the team playing to it's best ability... with passion and wanting it... ofcourse we allow an off day....
But that's all I want, heart and passion... I don't care about the result as over the course oft he seasons e are good enough for mid table and that's fine, but don't sit there with ya pants down waiting for the opposition to take turns.

This was once a quality forum....

Gary St.Andrews Kenley 10 Jul 20 8.10am
Definitely NOT, seriously who would we get to replace him at the moment? There isn’t the manager merry go round there once was and Roy has done a great job overall considering he has had no money to buy players. The team he has, was Pardew / Allardyce and the daft Dutchman built. He has shuffled the pack so many times they are becoming dog eared and old. It was forced on him the selling of AWB which immediately f*ed us, without fast young fullbacks how on earth are you supposed to mount purposeful attacks. Give him some money to do the job , then we can judge him. At the moment we are going nowhere without an injection of money to buy players. The Americans can f* off for all the use they have been. Let Roy and Ray Lewington get on with it for as long as we are in the Premiership it’s mission accomplished.

Gary St.Andrews

Kenley 10 Jul 20 8.10am

Definitely NOT, seriously who would we get to replace him at the moment? There isn’t the manager merry go round there once was and Roy has done a great job overall considering he has had no money to buy players.

The team he has, was Pardew / Allardyce and the daft Dutchman built. He has shuffled the pack so many times they are becoming dog eared and old. It was forced on him the selling of AWB which immediately f***ed us, without fast young fullbacks how on earth are you supposed to mount purposeful attacks.

Give him some money to do the job , then we can judge him. At the moment we are going nowhere without an injection of money to buy players. The Americans can f*** off for all the use they have been. Let Roy and Ray Lewington get on with it for as long as we are in the Premiership it’s mission accomplished.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jul 20 9.17am
Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews Definitely NOT, seriously who would we get to replace him at the moment? There isn’t the manager merry go round there once was and Roy has done a great job overall considering he has had no money to buy players. The team he has, was Pardew / Allardyce and the daft Dutchman built. He has shuffled the pack so many times they are becoming dog eared and old. It was forced on him the selling of AWB which immediately f*ed us, without fast young fullbacks how on earth are you supposed to mount purposeful attacks. Give him some money to do the job , then we can judge him. At the moment we are going nowhere without an injection of money to buy players. The Americans can f* off for all the use they have been. Let Roy and Ray Lewington get on with it for as long as we are in the Premiership it’s mission accomplished. Our 'Net spend' over the last 3 seasons has just been £8 Mill. Compare that to Brighton over the same period - £190 Mill.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jul 20 9.17am

Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews

Give him some money to do the job , then we can judge him. At the moment we are going nowhere without an injection of money to buy players. The Americans can f*** off for all the use they have been. Let Roy and Ray Lewington get on with it for as long as we are in the Premiership it’s mission accomplished.

Our 'Net spend' over the last 3 seasons has just been £8 Mill.
Compare that to Brighton over the same period - £190 Mill.

si_1967 Surrey 10 Jul 20 9.31am
Originally posted by Willo Our 'Net spend' over the last 3 seasons has just been £8 Mill. Compare that to Brighton over the same period - £190 Mill. WOW. Is that really so!! Amazing job by Roy on a relative 'shoestring' then!! I think we 'got away with it' not spending last year, but might not be so lucky this close season, now the senior players are a year older. Major overall needed in my opinion!! ... what

si_1967

Surrey 10 Jul 20 9.31am

Originally posted by Willo

Our 'Net spend' over the last 3 seasons has just been £8 Mill.
Compare that to Brighton over the same period - £190 Mill.

WOW. Is that really so!! Amazing job by Roy on a relative 'shoestring' then!!

I think we 'got away with it' not spending last year, but might not be so lucky this close season, now the senior players are a year older. Major overall needed in my opinion!!

... what

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jul 20 9.38am
Originally posted by si_1967 WOW. Is that really so!! Amazing job by Roy on a relative 'shoestring' then!! I think we 'got away with it' not spending last year, but might not be so lucky this close season, now the senior players are a year older. Major overall needed in my opinion!! Last night I was in conversation with someone involved in the game and I expressed real concerns about our prospects next season. Ageing squad with hardly any resale value and the transfer coffers hardly filled to the brim.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jul 20 9.38am

Originally posted by si_1967

WOW. Is that really so!! Amazing job by Roy on a relative 'shoestring' then!!

I think we 'got away with it' not spending last year, but might not be so lucky this close season, now the senior players are a year older. Major overall needed in my opinion!!

Last night I was in conversation with someone involved in the game and I expressed real concerns about our prospects next season. Ageing squad with hardly any resale value and the transfer coffers hardly filled to the brim.

Den1923 10 Jul 20 10.05am
Originally posted by Willo Our 'Net spend' over the last 3 seasons has just been £8 Mill. Compare that to Brighton over the same period - £190 Mill. Just show us all what an amazing job Roy has done since he arrived to clear-up the FdV mess. Roy needs the board to support him in this coming window but sadly antecedence says otherwise!

Den1923

10 Jul 20 10.05am

Originally posted by Willo

Our 'Net spend' over the last 3 seasons has just been £8 Mill.
Compare that to Brighton over the same period - £190 Mill.

Just show us all what an amazing job Roy has done since he arrived to clear-up the FdV mess. Roy needs the board to support him in this coming window but sadly antecedence says otherwise!

Jacey 10 Jul 20 1.23pm
After the Leicester fiasco,Roy was saying how we desperately need a striker like Vardy or Ings. Guess what,Ings was offered to us but we would not apparently pay asking price!!

Jacey

10 Jul 20 1.23pm

After the Leicester fiasco,Roy was saying how we desperately need a striker like Vardy or Ings.

Guess what,Ings was offered to us but we would not apparently pay asking price!!

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jul 20 1.29pm
Originally posted by Jacey After the Leicester fiasco,Roy was saying how we desperately need a striker like Vardy or Ings. Guess what,Ings was offered to us but we would not apparently pay asking price!! Southampton paid £20 Mill for Ings. He grew up not that far from Southampton's current stadium and supported the club as a young lad. It was Hodgson who gave Ings his England debut.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jul 20 1.29pm

Originally posted by Jacey

After the Leicester fiasco,Roy was saying how we desperately need a striker like Vardy or Ings.

Guess what,Ings was offered to us but we would not apparently pay asking price!!

Southampton paid £20 Mill for Ings.
He grew up not that far from Southampton's current stadium and supported the club as a young lad.
It was Hodgson who gave Ings his England debut.

cryrst The garden of England 10 Jul 20 1.36pm
Originally posted by Willo Southampton paid £20 Mill for Ings. He grew up not that far from Southampton's current stadium and supported the club as a young lad. It was Hodgson who gave Ings his England debut. But not his palace one sadly

cryrst

The garden of England 10 Jul 20 1.36pm

Originally posted by Willo

Southampton paid £20 Mill for Ings.
He grew up not that far from Southampton's current stadium and supported the club as a young lad.
It was Hodgson who gave Ings his England debut.

But not his palace one sadly

Painter Croydon 10 Jul 20 1.49pm
Originally posted by Jacey After the Leicester fiasco,Roy was saying how we desperately need a striker like Vardy or Ings. Guess what,Ings was offered to us but we would not apparently pay asking price!! Liverpool increased the price to us, as they thought we would fall for it again.

Painter

Croydon 10 Jul 20 1.49pm

Originally posted by Jacey

After the Leicester fiasco,Roy was saying how we desperately need a striker like Vardy or Ings.

Guess what,Ings was offered to us but we would not apparently pay asking price!!

Liverpool increased the price to us, as they thought we would fall for it again.

EddieMac 10 Jul 20 2.19pm
Villa spent close to £150 million in the last year. I would much rather our boring football than to have spent that money on average players and still get relegated. Roy is doing a fantastic job under the circumstances.

EddieMac

10 Jul 20 2.19pm

Villa spent close to £150 million in the last year. I would much rather our boring football than to have spent that money on average players and still get relegated. Roy is doing a fantastic job under the circumstances.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jul 20 2.35pm
Originally posted by EddieMac Villa spent close to £150 million in the last year. I would much rather our boring football than to have spent that money on average players and still get relegated. Roy is doing a fantastic job under the circumstances. My understanding is that A.Villa signed 17 players this season,including a couple of loans. My understanding also is that Fulham signed 15 players last season when they were relegated.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jul 20 2.35pm

Originally posted by EddieMac

My understanding is that A.Villa signed 17 players this season,including a couple of loans.
My understanding also is that Fulham signed 15 players last season when they were relegated.

NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 10 Jul 20 2.49pm
Originally posted by Jacey After the Leicester fiasco,Roy was saying how we desperately need a striker like Vardy or Ings. Guess what,Ings was offered to us but we would not apparently pay asking price!! We tried to sign Ings when we played Bournemouth in a pre season friendly years ago. I believe a deal was close to being done and then they upped the price. Old, Ungifted and White

NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 10 Jul 20 2.49pm

Originally posted by Jacey

After the Leicester fiasco,Roy was saying how we desperately need a striker like Vardy or Ings.

Guess what,Ings was offered to us but we would not apparently pay asking price!!

We tried to sign Ings when we played Bournemouth in a pre season friendly years ago. I believe a deal was close to being done and then they upped the price.

Old, Ungifted and White

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jul 20 2.56pm
Originally posted by NEILLO We tried to sign Ings when we played Bournemouth in a pre season friendly years ago. I believe a deal was close to being done and then they upped the price. Ings went from Bournemouth to Burnley where he was signed by his former manager Eddie Howe. I understand the price was just over £1 Mill.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jul 20 2.56pm

Originally posted by NEILLO

We tried to sign Ings when we played Bournemouth in a pre season friendly years ago. I believe a deal was close to being done and then they upped the price.

Ings went from Bournemouth to Burnley where he was signed by his former manager Eddie Howe. I understand the price was just over £1 Mill.

Vaibow vancouver/croydon 10 Jul 20 9.17pm
Originally posted by Willo Last night I was in conversation with someone involved in the game and I expressed real concerns about our prospects next season. Ageing squad with hardly any resale value and the transfer coffers hardly filled to the brim. and.... did they say anything back or was tis just to tell us you spoke to someone in the know? This was once a quality forum....

Vaibow

vancouver/croydon 10 Jul 20 9.17pm

Originally posted by Willo

and.... did they say anything back or was tis just to tell us you spoke to someone in the know?

This was once a quality forum....

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