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Hrolf The Ganger 26 Apr 22 8.03am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle You are the one talking rubbish. Behavioural evolution is regarded by some as a science on its own. You are speaking only of the evolution of living things, but many things evolve. Systems evolve. It merely means to change to suit new circumstances. [Link] Globalism is a result of our shrinking world, due to technological advancements which enable the transfer of things, and people, in ways that didn't previously exist. That some seek to profit from it, is a consequence, not the cause. That we need to exercise control over those consequences is beyond doubt. As is that we need new global structures to do so. What isn't true is that we can simply stop it. The world has already changed, and there is no return to what existed before. That's why it has evolved. We can control who enters this country if we are motivated enough. The idea that we can't is absurd. Right now we are being thwarted by man made laws and conventions. They can be changed. Don't tell me it can't be done. That is claptrap. You are a defeatist, and worse, an advocate, and that makes you complicit in the destruction of this country.

Hrolf The Ganger

26 Apr 22 8.03am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You are the one talking rubbish.

Behavioural evolution is regarded by some as a science on its own. You are speaking only of the evolution of living things, but many things evolve. Systems evolve. It merely means to change to suit new circumstances.

[Link]

Globalism is a result of our shrinking world, due to technological advancements which enable the transfer of things, and people, in ways that didn't previously exist. That some seek to profit from it, is a consequence, not the cause.

That we need to exercise control over those consequences is beyond doubt. As is that we need new global structures to do so. What isn't true is that we can simply stop it. The world has already changed, and there is no return to what existed before. That's why it has evolved.

We can control who enters this country if we are motivated enough.
The idea that we can't is absurd. Right now we are being thwarted by man made laws and conventions. They can be changed.

Don't tell me it can't be done. That is claptrap. You are a defeatist, and worse, an advocate, and that makes you complicit in the destruction of this country.

W12 26 Apr 22 8.33am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle You are the one talking rubbish. Behavioural evolution is regarded by some as a science on its own. You are speaking only of the evolution of living things, but many things evolve. Systems evolve. It merely means to change to suit new circumstances. [Link] Globalism is a result of our shrinking world, due to technological advancements which enable the transfer of things, and people, in ways that didn't previously exist. That some seek to profit from it, is a consequence, not the cause. That we need to exercise control over those consequences is beyond doubt. As is that we need new global structures to do so. What isn't true is that we can simply stop it. The world has already changed, and there is no return to what existed before. That's why it has evolved. You do not understand the difference between globalisation and globalism. Globalism is an "ism" i.e. an ideology. This ideology is summed up by people like Yuval Noah Harari. Basically national identify and spirituality can go hang, you are no more than a meat puppet and you will be replaced or subsumed by technology.

W12 26 Apr 22 8.33am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You are the one talking rubbish.

[Link]

Globalism is a result of our shrinking world, due to technological advancements which enable the transfer of things, and people, in ways that didn't previously exist. That some seek to profit from it, is a consequence, not the cause.

That we need to exercise control over those consequences is beyond doubt. As is that we need new global structures to do so. What isn't true is that we can simply stop it. The world has already changed, and there is no return to what existed before. That's why it has evolved.

You do not understand the difference between globalisation and globalism.

Globalism is an "ism" i.e. an ideology. This ideology is summed up by people like Yuval Noah Harari. Basically national identify and spirituality can go hang, you are no more than a meat puppet and you will be replaced or subsumed by technology.

PalazioVecchio south pole 26 Apr 22 9.02am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman A tertiary education is useful for shelf stacking and warehouse picking these days. Watch on while newcomers progress. The idiots pushing this have no idea. Uni is a great place to read Marx, wear black clothes with blue hair, and learn to throw rocks at people with opinions different to yourself. Learn the importance of crying to get the things you want. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

PalazioVecchio

south pole 26 Apr 22 9.02am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

A tertiary education is useful for shelf stacking and warehouse picking these days. Watch on while newcomers progress. The idiots pushing this have no idea.

Uni is a great place to read Marx, wear black clothes with blue hair, and learn to throw rocks at people with opinions different to yourself. Learn the importance of crying to get the things you want.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Hrolf The Ganger 26 Apr 22 9.26am
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio Uni is a great place to read Marx, wear black clothes with blue hair, and learn to throw rocks at people with opinions different to yourself. Learn the importance of crying to get the things you want. Fair comment.

Hrolf The Ganger

26 Apr 22 9.26am

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Fair comment.

Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 26 Apr 22 9.30am
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio Uni is a great place to read Marx, wear black clothes with blue hair, and learn to throw rocks at people with opinions different to yourself. Learn the importance of crying to get the things you want. The problem with Universities these days is that they are no longer institutions for further educating those who warrant that commitment. I'm still quite young, and enjoyed reasonable academic success (through nature must be said, I was always committedly lazy) however I had no shortage of 'thick' mates, much as I love them... somewhat inevitable growing up in Lewisham. I'd suggest about 10% went to prison, 10% went to prison for substantial periods of time with a number still there, about 40% found reasonable work and shockingly about 40% went to University. A lot of those who went to Uni had about the same cerebral capacity as those who found work by the age of 18/19/20. The ones who found work all seem to be homeowners now with reasonable wages etc. Those that went to Uni, in their main, show no signs of intellectualism, are still paying off debts, have ludicrous jobs in fields/roles they have been led to believe they belong in, but know deep down they do not, and earn barely livable wages to sustain their disillusionment with 'adulthood'. A few still even live at home (late 20s/early 30's). It's no wonder anybody may be under the impression we need to import the likes of skilled labourers, a seriously undervalued necessity in society, from anywhere and everywhere. In the meantime, we'll still work hard on figuring out what value degrees actually hold when the likes of being somewhat literate is supposedly now a sufficient barometer to warrant a loan of tens of thousands of pounds to study 'English Literature' before moving on to work part time behind a bar or become a 'personal trainer' etc. Talent schemes, such as apprenticeships, should really be the way forward for this nation. I'm glad that a diversity push has paved the way for many to now be able to go in to further education but let's not conflate this with the issue of providing people with an ends to justify those means. Should anything stop you from entering University and furthering your education, only one IMHO, if you are not able to utilise the opportunity to benefit the overall economy and yourself in later life. It shouldn't be painted as some sort of given for anyone who 'fancies it'. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 26 Apr 22 9.30am

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

The problem with Universities these days is that they are no longer institutions for further educating those who warrant that commitment.

I'm still quite young, and enjoyed reasonable academic success (through nature must be said, I was always committedly lazy) however I had no shortage of 'thick' mates, much as I love them... somewhat inevitable growing up in Lewisham.

I'd suggest about 10% went to prison, 10% went to prison for substantial periods of time with a number still there, about 40% found reasonable work and shockingly about 40% went to University.

A lot of those who went to Uni had about the same cerebral capacity as those who found work by the age of 18/19/20. The ones who found work all seem to be homeowners now with reasonable wages etc. Those that went to Uni, in their main, show no signs of intellectualism, are still paying off debts, have ludicrous jobs in fields/roles they have been led to believe they belong in, but know deep down they do not, and earn barely livable wages to sustain their disillusionment with 'adulthood'. A few still even live at home (late 20s/early 30's).

It's no wonder anybody may be under the impression we need to import the likes of skilled labourers, a seriously undervalued necessity in society, from anywhere and everywhere. In the meantime, we'll still work hard on figuring out what value degrees actually hold when the likes of being somewhat literate is supposedly now a sufficient barometer to warrant a loan of tens of thousands of pounds to study 'English Literature' before moving on to work part time behind a bar or become a 'personal trainer' etc.

Talent schemes, such as apprenticeships, should really be the way forward for this nation. I'm glad that a diversity push has paved the way for many to now be able to go in to further education but let's not conflate this with the issue of providing people with an ends to justify those means. Should anything stop you from entering University and furthering your education, only one IMHO, if you are not able to utilise the opportunity to benefit the overall economy and yourself in later life. It shouldn't be painted as some sort of given for anyone who 'fancies it'.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Rudi Hedman Caterham 26 Apr 22 10.54am
Higher education, lower wages and/or earning ability and less desire/affordability to have children or own a home is all part of the western elites and big business owners’ plans. What this country is going to look like in 35 years I expyto be a real shame and shameful. But Tony Blair got rich steering us. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 26 Apr 22 10.54am

Higher education, lower wages and/or earning ability and less desire/affordability to have children or own a home is all part of the western elites and big business owners’ plans. What this country is going to look like in 35 years I expyto be a real shame and shameful. But Tony Blair got rich steering us.

COYP

georgenorman 26 Apr 22 11.27am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Higher education, lower wages and/or earning ability and less desire/affordability to have children or own a home is all part of the western elites and big business owners’ plans. What this country is going to look like in 35 years I expyto be a real shame and shameful. But Tony Blair got rich steering us. Stange sort of plan by elites and big business then - impoverish people so that they will be unable to buy the products of business.

georgenorman

26 Apr 22 11.27am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Stange sort of plan by elites and big business then - impoverish people so that they will be unable to buy the products of business.

Rudi Hedman Caterham 26 Apr 22 11.35am
Originally posted by georgenorman Stange sort of plan by elites and big business then - impoverish people so that they will be unable to buy the products of business. Wages are a huge cost. Plus the youth are accepting they cannot own property so buy stuff or borrow credit. Credit, keeps workers relying on any work. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 26 Apr 22 11.35am

Originally posted by georgenorman

Stange sort of plan by elites and big business then - impoverish people so that they will be unable to buy the products of business.

Wages are a huge cost. Plus the youth are accepting they cannot own property so buy stuff or borrow credit. Credit, keeps workers relying on any work.

COYP

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 26 Apr 22 1.14pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman We created the need. Well done. You’re getting there. By we, I mean the country. Well actually the Labour government. Companies didn’t help, but there could’ve been incentives. And Labour did encourage East Europeans over here. It takes some believing. Ignore the working classes, encourage 50% into university. For what purpose nobody knows, but he still thinks it’s credible. Edited by Rudi Hedman (26 Apr 2022 6.55am) We didn't "create" the need. That implies it was deliberately designed. It arrived as a consequence of events. Hindsight may suggest another course would have produced a better outcome, but decisions are taken with the best intentions based on what can be seen at the time. That will always be the case. Decisions being taken to day won't always look wise in a few years from now. Having skill shortages whilst we were in the EU allowed gaps to be filled via free movement. That's not "encouraging". It's using the system, which in the process has also provided us with some high quality new citizens. Improving the availability of vocational training, and its perceived value to society, so that a vocational award is regarded in the same way as a degree, is something I completely agree with. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 26 Apr 22 1.14pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

We created the need. Well done. You’re getting there. By we, I mean the country. Well actually the Labour government. Companies didn’t help, but there could’ve been incentives.

And Labour did encourage East Europeans over here. It takes some believing. Ignore the working classes, encourage 50% into university. For what purpose nobody knows, but he still thinks it’s credible.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (26 Apr 2022 6.55am)

We didn't "create" the need. That implies it was deliberately designed. It arrived as a consequence of events. Hindsight may suggest another course would have produced a better outcome, but decisions are taken with the best intentions based on what can be seen at the time. That will always be the case. Decisions being taken to day won't always look wise in a few years from now.

Having skill shortages whilst we were in the EU allowed gaps to be filled via free movement. That's not "encouraging". It's using the system, which in the process has also provided us with some high quality new citizens.

Improving the availability of vocational training, and its perceived value to society, so that a vocational award is regarded in the same way as a degree, is something I completely agree with.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 26 Apr 22 1.25pm
Originally posted by W12 You do not understand the difference between globalisation and globalism. Globalism is an "ism" i.e. an ideology. This ideology is summed up by people like Yuval Noah Harari. Basically national identify and spirituality can go hang, you are no more than a meat puppet and you will be replaced or subsumed by technology. For most the two are interchangeable, but if you wish to be pedantic, then what is under review here is globalisation. I have no interest in subverting national identities into one homogenous mass of humanity, which is the ultimate destination of pure globalism. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 26 Apr 22 1.25pm

Originally posted by W12

You do not understand the difference between globalisation and globalism.

For most the two are interchangeable, but if you wish to be pedantic, then what is under review here is globalisation. I have no interest in subverting national identities into one homogenous mass of humanity, which is the ultimate destination of pure globalism.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Rudi Hedman Caterham 26 Apr 22 1.40pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle We didn't "create" the need. That implies it was deliberately designed. It arrived as a consequence of events. Hindsight may suggest another course would have produced a better outcome, but decisions are taken with the best intentions based on what can be seen at the time. That will always be the case. Decisions being taken to day won't always look wise in a few years from now. Having skill shortages whilst we were in the EU allowed gaps to be filled via free movement. That's not "encouraging". It's using the system, which in the process has also provided us with some high quality new citizens. Improving the availability of vocational training, and its perceived value to society, so that a vocational award is regarded in the same way as a degree, is something I completely agree with. It was created via Tony Blair’s vision. It didn’t need to be and he was told in no uncertain terms what a mistake he was making. It was possible to invest in youth or skills, not cr&ppy useless degrees. Most who go to university aren’t in the slightest bit interested. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 26 Apr 22 1.40pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Improving the availability of vocational training, and its perceived value to society, so that a vocational award is regarded in the same way as a degree, is something I completely agree with.

It was created via Tony Blair’s vision. It didn’t need to be and he was told in no uncertain terms what a mistake he was making. It was possible to invest in youth or skills, not cr&ppy useless degrees. Most who go to university aren’t in the slightest bit interested.

COYP

Teddy Eagle 26 Apr 22 1.56pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman It was created via Tony Blair’s vision. It didn’t need to be and he was told in no uncertain terms what a mistake he was making. It was possible to invest in youth or skills, not cr&ppy useless degrees. Most who go to university aren’t in the slightest bit interested. Over 50% of school leavers now go on to a degree course. Wonder how many of them regret it with the average student debt at £35,000.

Teddy Eagle

26 Apr 22 1.56pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Over 50% of school leavers now go on to a degree course. Wonder how many of them regret it with the average student debt at £35,000.

W12 26 Apr 22 2.02pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle For most the two are interchangeable, but if you wish to be pedantic, then what is under review here is globalisation. I have no interest in subverting national identities into one homogenous mass of humanity, which is the ultimate destination of pure globalism. Most people are wrong. Globalisation is basically the global infrastructure and processes that connect us together (internet, supply chains etc) and Globalism is as I previously described. The reason why conflating these is a problem is that Globalists will claim that Globalism is inevitable because of globalisation. So basically they are inserting their ideology on the back of the fact that technology is driving change that they want to control in their own particular way. Globalism makes no account of national borders or national sovereignty, independent cultures and societal norms, religions, property rights, personal privacy, bodily autonomy etc etc. There is also a much wider agenda here that relates to things like smart cities, "sustainable development", quantum computing, it's singularity and things like trans-humanism. The basics tenets are: One world government One world financial system (including tax) Central bank digital currency (not a distributed ledger crypto) All resources are leased / subscription based (no private ownership) Catalogue and tracking of every resource on the planet (including humans) This little to do with globalisation other than you can use it as a tool to enable this and the agenda of Globalists is obviously global and pretty well advanced. That's not pedantic and that kind of thinking is short sighted, ill informed and dangerous considering what's at stake. Edited by W12 (26 Apr 2022 2.12pm)

W12 26 Apr 22 2.02pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Most people are wrong.

Globalisation is basically the global infrastructure and processes that connect us together (internet, supply chains etc) and Globalism is as I previously described. The reason why conflating these is a problem is that Globalists will claim that Globalism is inevitable *because* of globalisation. So basically they are inserting their ideology on the back of the fact that technology is driving change that they want to control in their own particular way. Globalism makes no account of national borders or national sovereignty, independent cultures and societal norms, religions, property rights, personal privacy, bodily autonomy etc etc. There is also a much wider agenda here that relates to things like smart cities, "sustainable development", quantum computing, it's singularity and things like trans-humanism.

The basics tenets are:

One world government
One world financial system (including tax)
Central bank digital currency (not a distributed ledger crypto)
All resources are leased / subscription based (no private ownership)
Catalogue and tracking of every resource on the planet (including humans)

This little to do with globalisation other than you can use it as a tool to enable this and the agenda of Globalists is obviously global and pretty well advanced. That's not pedantic and that kind of thinking is short sighted, ill informed and dangerous considering what's at stake.

Edited by W12 (26 Apr 2022 2.12pm)

Hrolf The Ganger 26 Apr 22 2.05pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle For most the two are interchangeable, but if you wish to be pedantic, then what is under review here is globalisation. I have no interest in subverting national identities into one homogenous mass of humanity, which is the ultimate destination of pure globalism. But that is the ultimate goal of globalism. Consumers buying the same products everywhere while working for fewer wages. Who needs slavery when you can suppress wages and create a desire for products that no one knew they needed on a global scale.

Hrolf The Ganger

26 Apr 22 2.05pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

For most the two are interchangeable, but if you wish to be pedantic, then what is under review here is globalisation. I have no interest in subverting national identities into one homogenous mass of humanity, which is the ultimate destination of pure globalism.

But that is the ultimate goal of globalism.

Consumers buying the same products everywhere while working for fewer wages.
Who needs slavery when you can suppress wages and create a desire for products that no one knew they needed on a global scale.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 26 Apr 22 2.30pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Over 50% of school leavers now go on to a degree course. Wonder how many of them regret it with the average student debt at £35,000. The vast majority will never pay it back. It gets wiped after 30 years! It's not really a "loan". It's much more a tax for the highest earners to have benefited from a university education. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 26 Apr 22 2.30pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Over 50% of school leavers now go on to a degree course. Wonder how many of them regret it with the average student debt at £35,000.

The vast majority will never pay it back. It gets wiped after 30 years! It's not really a "loan". It's much more a tax for the highest earners to have benefited from a university education.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

steeleye20 Croydon 26 Apr 22 2.34pm
Marine Le Pen is so ugly even Boris Johnson would not sleep with her. Russia has offered her a new position as a decoy to their whaling fleet. They would have offered Ukraine but their soldiers would mutiny.

steeleye20

Croydon 26 Apr 22 2.34pm

Marine Le Pen is so ugly even Boris Johnson would not sleep with her.

Russia has offered her a new position as a decoy to their whaling fleet.

They would have offered Ukraine but their soldiers would mutiny.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 26 Apr 22 2.37pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger But that is the ultimate goal of globalism. Consumers buying the same products everywhere while working for fewer wages. Who needs slavery when you can suppress wages and create a desire for products that no one knew they needed on a global scale. Who do you imagine is designing, and managing this? You need a world government, and that is not going to happen. It's a fanciful conspiracy theory, and nothing more than that. Creating worldwide brands makes commercial sense, but we don't have to buy them, and they are often tailored to suit local tastes. Did you know, for instance, that even Coca-Cola varies from country to country? Edited by Wisbech Eagle (26 Apr 2022 2.38pm) For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 26 Apr 22 2.37pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

But that is the ultimate goal of globalism.

Who do you imagine is designing, and managing this? You need a world government, and that is not going to happen.

It's a fanciful conspiracy theory, and nothing more than that. Creating worldwide brands makes commercial sense, but we don't have to buy them, and they are often tailored to suit local tastes. Did you know, for instance, that even Coca-Cola varies from country to country?

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (26 Apr 2022 2.38pm)

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 26 Apr 22 2.43pm
Originally posted by W12 Most people are wrong. Globalisation is basically the global infrastructure and processes that connect us together (internet, supply chains etc) and Globalism is as I previously described. The reason why conflating these is a problem is that *Globalists will claim that Globalism is inevitable because* of globalisation.** So basically they are inserting their ideology on the back of the fact that technology is driving change that they want to control in their own particular way. Globalism makes no account of national borders or national sovereignty, independent cultures and societal norms, religions, property rights, personal privacy, bodily autonomy etc etc. There is also a much wider agenda here that relates to things like smart cities, "sustainable development", quantum computing, it's singularity and things like trans-humanism. The basics tenets are: One world government One world financial system (including tax) Central bank digital currency (not a distributed ledger crypto) All resources are leased / subscription based (no private ownership) Catalogue and tracking of every resource on the planet (including humans) This little to do with globalisation other than you can use it as a tool to enable this and the agenda of Globalists is obviously global and pretty well advanced. That's not pedantic and that kind of thinking is short sighted, ill informed and dangerous considering what's at stake. Edited by W12 (26 Apr 2022 2.12pm) "Globalists", such as they exist, can claim whatever they like. It isn't going to happen. It's a conspiracy theory with absolutely no prospect of it happening. The structure doesn't exist, and nor does the will to build one. Globalisation is though a reality. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 26 Apr 22 2.43pm

Originally posted by W12

Most people are wrong.

Globalisation is basically the global infrastructure and processes that connect us together (internet, supply chains etc) and Globalism is as I previously described. The reason why conflating these is a problem is that Globalists will claim that Globalism is inevitable *because* of globalisation. So basically they are inserting their ideology on the back of the fact that technology is driving change that they want to control in their own particular way. Globalism makes no account of national borders or national sovereignty, independent cultures and societal norms, religions, property rights, personal privacy, bodily autonomy etc etc. There is also a much wider agenda here that relates to things like smart cities, "sustainable development", quantum computing, it's singularity and things like trans-humanism.

The basics tenets are:

Edited by W12 (26 Apr 2022 2.12pm)

"Globalists", such as they exist, can claim whatever they like. It isn't going to happen.

It's a conspiracy theory with absolutely no prospect of it happening. The structure doesn't exist, and nor does the will to build one.

Globalisation is though a reality.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

W12 26 Apr 22 3.00pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle "Globalists", such as they exist, can claim whatever they like. It isn't going to happen. It's a conspiracy theory with absolutely no prospect of it happening. The structure doesn't exist, and nor does the will to build one. Globalisation is though a reality. "Globalists" are in the drivers seat mate. Here is just a few of the usual suspects which include every major corporation, government agencies, security services, media, central banks and global agencies (World Bank, Bank of International Settlements, World Health Organisation, UN, EU, NATO), NGO's - you name it - almost everyone represented that runs the current global society. Our laws are gradually being changed to enable this. Been happening for years. [Link] [Link] [Link] [Link] (there are many more such organisations) Do you think you can stop this by choosing not to go along with it?

W12 26 Apr 22 3.00pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

"Globalists", such as they exist, can claim whatever they like. It isn't going to happen.

It's a conspiracy theory with absolutely no prospect of it happening. The structure doesn't exist, and nor does the will to build one.

Globalisation is though a reality.

"Globalists" are in the drivers seat mate. Here is just a few of the usual suspects which include every major corporation, government agencies, security services, media, central banks and global agencies (World Bank, Bank of International Settlements, World Health Organisation, UN, EU, NATO), NGO's - you name it - almost everyone represented that runs the current global society. Our laws are gradually being changed to enable this. Been happening for years.

[Link]
[Link]
[Link]
[Link]

(there are many more such organisations)

Do you think you can stop this by choosing not to go along with it?

Hrolf The Ganger 26 Apr 22 3.07pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Who do you imagine is designing, and managing this? You need a world government, and that is not going to happen. It's a fanciful conspiracy theory, and nothing more than that. Creating worldwide brands makes commercial sense, but we don't have to buy them, and they are often tailored to suit local tastes. Did you know, for instance, that even Coca-Cola varies from country to country? Edited by Wisbech Eagle (26 Apr 2022 2.38pm) Oh, shut up with your buzz words. There is no 'conspiracy theory' here. It is simple economics and a desire to make more profit at any environmental cost. You can see how relying on resources from other countries fails when someone doesn't play by the rules. A more sensible policy would be greater self sufficiency of resources and a move back towards raising more children to reverse the slow extinction of Europeans, rather than making both parents in a family work for the wages of one. Restricting the labour market would mean higher wages and less profit for the increasing monopoly of multinational companies, who pay limited tax and low wages.

Hrolf The Ganger

26 Apr 22 3.07pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Who do you imagine is designing, and managing this? You need a world government, and that is not going to happen.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (26 Apr 2022 2.38pm)

Oh, shut up with your buzz words. There is no 'conspiracy theory' here.
It is simple economics and a desire to make more profit at any environmental cost.

You can see how relying on resources from other countries fails when someone doesn't play by the rules.

A more sensible policy would be greater self sufficiency of resources and a move back towards raising more children to reverse the slow extinction of Europeans, rather than making both parents in a family work for the wages of one. Restricting the labour market would mean higher wages and less profit for the increasing monopoly of multinational companies, who pay limited tax and low wages.

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