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Mstrobez Flag 08 Jun 17 10.32am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This means nothing. Politicians will say anything to get in power.

But if that were the case why would he be pledging tax increases that everyone seems so against? Surely lying about that would be the best way of converting tories?

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Jun 17 10.34am

Originally posted by Mstrobez

What do people think the chances are of May being forced to step down if she doesn't achieve the landslide she was supposed to? Think there'll be many Tory back benchers plotting her demise already.

May has never talked about any such 'Landslide'.
I've not heard anything about any such 'Plots' and I am close to the party.

Anyway, I have a very busy day, out 'Telling', Dropping people to the 'Polling Stations', at 'Committee Room' and much more so must go now ! Going to be a long day !!!!

Edited by Willo (08 Jun 2017 10.36am)

 

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 08 Jun 17 10.36am

Originally posted by Mstrobez

What do people think the chances are of May being forced to step down if she doesn't achieve the landslide she was supposed to? Think there'll be many Tory back benchers plotting her demise already.

I think it is highly likely that the Tory knives will be out as her campaign has been so incompetent.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 08 Jun 17 10.44am

Originally posted by Willo

Generally NO "Inevitability" in any of our General Elections.
I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Tory and I am taking nothing for granted about the current one.

Edited by Willo (08 Jun 2017 10.30am)

What's happened to John Hammond RIP?

He had his batteries taken out? A malfunction?

 


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PALACE FOR EVER Flag London 08 Jun 17 10.53am

Do spoiled votes get included in the percentage that is given for the number of people that voted overall? I think they do because I'm sure they give out figures of spoiled votes

I ask this as I feel if someone doesn't know who to vote for, party they support isn't sitting in their constituency or perhaps they feels 'it's not worth as they don't tell you the truth' you should go and vote in some way even though it will be spoiled like - ticking more than one box, write down the party if they are not there and tick next to it or even write on the slip 'not worth voting'.

I say this because you can say you went and voted, this may seem pointless as it will be spoiled but I feel its better that doing nothing.

 


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npn Flag Crowborough 08 Jun 17 10.57am

Originally posted by Mstrobez

But if that were the case why would he be pledging tax increases that everyone seems so against? Surely lying about that would be the best way of converting tories?

Plausibility.

The Labour manifesto makes a lot of spending promises, and seems highly unlikely they'll be able to deliver on much of it, but to pledge all of that without any attempt to explain where the money would come from would just be tantamount to saying "we have no plan".

Heart says "wouldn't it be great if they could deliver", head says "not a snowball's chance in Hell" (I still voted for them though, for the first time in over 30 years at voting age)

 

Hansy Flag 08 Jun 17 11.02am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

I think it is highly likely that the Tory knives will be out as her campaign has been so incompetent.

What will happen if Corbyn loses, May gains say a 20-30 majority; and he fails to resign (again).

Enter: New New Labour, and Socialist Labour parties.

Edited by Hansy (08 Jun 2017 11.03am)

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 08 Jun 17 11.17am

Originally posted by Willo

May has never talked about any such 'Landslide'.
I've not heard anything about any such 'Plots' and I am close to the party.

Anyway, I have a very busy day, out 'Telling', Dropping people to the 'Polling Stations', at 'Committee Room' and much more so must go now ! Going to be a long day !!!!


What's the voting and party history of your constituency and if you like, nearby constituencies?

Edited by Willo (08 Jun 2017 10.36am)

 


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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 08 Jun 17 11.19am

Originally posted by Mstrobez

What do people think the chances are of May being forced to step down if she doesn't achieve the landslide she was supposed to? Think there'll be many Tory back benchers plotting her demise already.

In the short term I don't think they will as it would damage the party. That's not to say it wouldn't happen before the next election.

I think everyone will sit tight until Brexit, then if it is a crock of s*** they can torpedo her

 


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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 08 Jun 17 11.19am

Originally posted by mezzer

Whoever wins this election is buggered for the one after, as being in charge of the Brexitt negotiations, coinciding with a period in which the next global slowdown and recession will arrive, will be a bit like getting the Manchester United job after Fergie left.

Still, at least the UK will be out of Europe by the time said global slowdown and recession means that the Eurosceptic opposition now in place across Europe will come to power in their next round of elections in 5 years' time.


I actually think it'll be tailor made for Labour to get in if they fail this time round...in order to make Brexit work we need to ween[sp] ourselves off of the reliance of certain aspects of our current economy...the Finance sector being the biggest; and build up the manufacturing base as well as infrastructure.

Moving forward once the split has been made we'll need a far more balanced economy.

Interesting times ahead.

 


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Frickin Saweet Flag South Cronx 08 Jun 17 11.25am

Originally posted by PaddyMcPaddy

You can't use "we had the biggest period of uninterrupted growth" in the same paragraph as the crash. That was one of the reasons for the crash, unstable growth that didn't really exist.

Neither party are particularly appealing and I don't trust either. I just couldn't put my faith in Corbyn at all.


I voted Green this morning for this very reason. I didn't feel comfortable putting my name against Labour or Tories for different reasons. If the Greens get more seats then more environmental concerns will get on the Parliamentary agenda, which isn't a bad thing.

 

Frickin Saweet Flag South Cronx 08 Jun 17 11.27am

Originally posted by PALACE FOR EVER

Do spoiled votes get included in the percentage that is given for the number of people that voted overall? I think they do because I'm sure they give out figures of spoiled votes

I ask this as I feel if someone doesn't know who to vote for, party they support isn't sitting in their constituency or perhaps they feels 'it's not worth as they don't tell you the truth' you should go and vote in some way even though it will be spoiled like - ticking more than one box, write down the party if they are not there and tick next to it or even write on the slip 'not worth voting'.

I say this because you can say you went and voted, this may seem pointless as it will be spoiled but I feel its better that doing nothing.

I was thinking of spoiling my vote but I wanted it to count for something so voted Green

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 08 Jun 17 11.52am

Originally posted by Frickin Saweet

I was thinking of spoiling my vote but I wanted it to count for something so voted Green

You do realise that some people have and would give their lives just to get a vote.

At least you voted, albeit for a protest group.

 

jeeagles Flag 08 Jun 17 11.56am

They report the number of spoilt ballot papers when reading out the final count.

It's pretty much the only way to show you are willing to vote, but all the options are terrible.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 08 Jun 17 12.08pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

They report the number of spoilt ballot papers when reading out the final count.

It's pretty much the only way to show you are willing to vote, but all the options are terrible.

The old 'none of the above' thing doesn't have a lot of clout does it. Voting generally doesn't change much I guess but we should be grateful for the stability at least. Life in Britain is good relative to most of the world.

 

Sir James Hird Flag Mount Martha 08 Jun 17 12.09pm

We had a load of people voting Green and ended up with a government that was hamstrung and could not get strong policies past the tree huggers. Not a good idea.

 

lefty27 Flag ipswich 08 Jun 17 12.13pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You do realise that some people have and would give their lives just to get a vote.

At least you voted, albeit for a protest group.

I will vote and always have, however it is a persons democratic right not to/ spoil their ballot if they choose. I don't blame some people as the system is out dated and ridiculous.
I live in an area where the second placed party are 18000 votes behind. I will vote for them even though there is no chance of my vote changing anything, I therefore don't blame people less engaged in politics that exercise their right to abstain.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 08 Jun 17 12.23pm

Originally posted by Frickin Saweet

I was thinking of spoiling my vote but I wanted it to count for something so voted Green

Was that an unintended joke?

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 08 Jun 17 12.25pm

Gloomy, downcast and drizzly here which is kind of foreboding and pointing to a Tory majority of 45.

Hopefully, the sun will burst through this afternoon and get it back down to below 20.

And then an early evening heatwave for a Hung Parliament

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 08 Jun 17 12.29pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Gloomy, downcast and drizzly here which is kind of foreboding and pointing to a Tory majority of 45.

Hopefully, the sun will burst through this afternoon and get it back down to below 20.

And then an early evening heatwave for a Hung Parliament

More like a 60 majority.

Labour to get the kicking they deserve.

 


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