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hedgehog50 Croydon 08 Jun 17 12.32pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Gloomy, downcast and drizzly here which is kind of foreboding and pointing to a Tory majority of 45. Hopefully, the sun will burst through this afternoon and get it back down to below 20. And then an early evening heatwave for a Hung Parliament Why do you think that? why do you think the electorate will ignore the great wisdom of people like you? We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 08 Jun 17 12.32pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Gloomy, downcast and drizzly here which is kind of foreboding and pointing to a Tory majority of 45.

Hopefully, the sun will burst through this afternoon and get it back down to below 20.

And then an early evening heatwave for a Hung Parliament

Why do you think that? why do you think the electorate will ignore the great wisdom of people like you?

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Kermit8 Hevon 08 Jun 17 12.36pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Why do you think that? why do you think the electorate will ignore the great wisdom of people like you? 58% or thereabouts of voters will not be voting Tory. Why are you implying they are stupid? Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 08 Jun 17 12.36pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Why do you think that? why do you think the electorate will ignore the great wisdom of people like you?

58% or thereabouts of voters will not be voting Tory. Why are you implying they are stupid?

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]

Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 08 Jun 17 12.42pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger You do realise that some people have and would give their lives just to get a vote. At least you voted, albeit for a protest group. But it is up to the politicians to give us something to vote for. voting for least worse option is hardly motivating. the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 08 Jun 17 12.42pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You do realise that some people have and would give their lives just to get a vote.

At least you voted, albeit for a protest group.

But it is up to the politicians to give us something to vote for.

voting for least worse option is hardly motivating.

the dignified don't even enter in the game

Stirlingsays 08 Jun 17 12.42pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 58% or thereabouts of voters will not be voting Tory. Why are you implying they are stupid? A lot more not voting Labour....these are silly points. This isn't really about intelligence it's about worldview and priorities. The finger pointing 'stupidity' brigade don't get the cosmic irony that the simplistic nature of their comments imply. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jun 2017 12.42pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

08 Jun 17 12.42pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

58% or thereabouts of voters will not be voting Tory. Why are you implying they are stupid?

A lot more not voting Labour....these are silly points.

This isn't really about intelligence it's about worldview and priorities.

The finger pointing 'stupidity' brigade don't get the cosmic irony that the simplistic nature of their comments imply.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jun 2017 12.42pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Hrolf The Ganger 08 Jun 17 12.43pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 58% or thereabouts of voters will not be voting Tory. Why are you implying they are stupid? So 42% will? That is a lot. I believe that it will be good for democracy in the long term if Labour are destroyed this time. Hopefully, far left ideology will be put to bed for another generation and we can have an opposition that is not run by an agitator but a statesman.

Hrolf The Ganger

08 Jun 17 12.43pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

58% or thereabouts of voters will not be voting Tory. Why are you implying they are stupid?

So 42% will? That is a lot.

I believe that it will be good for democracy in the long term if Labour are destroyed this time.

Hopefully, far left ideology will be put to bed for another generation and we can have an opposition that is not run by an agitator but a statesman.

Stirlingsays 08 Jun 17 12.43pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch But it is up to the politicians to give us something to vote for. voting for least worse option is hardly motivating. True, but necessary. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

08 Jun 17 12.43pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

But it is up to the politicians to give us something to vote for.

voting for least worse option is hardly motivating.

True, but necessary.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Rudi Hedman Caterham 08 Jun 17 12.47pm
Ian Dale was on Newsnight last night along with Paul Mason and a woman I'm unsure of (who she is, not would you, hol'ers). Dale thought there'd be a majority of something halfway to a hundred. Can't remember where exactly but when he went through every constituency he had it more like 120. He didn't see that happening but gave an example of how inaccurate the polling favouring a labour shock was. Canterbury university would need 100% turnout. Paul Mason had heart saying a hung parliament but head saying a 20 seat Tory majority but Corbyn fighting a very strong campaign. I think Corbyn is going to be around for a while and Blairites can do nothing about it. Chukka uMoana is probably glad in secret. More years hiding away. Incidentally, where has the Chancellor John Hammond been? COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 08 Jun 17 12.47pm

Ian Dale was on Newsnight last night along with Paul Mason and a woman I'm unsure of (who she is, not would you, hol'ers).

Dale thought there'd be a majority of something halfway to a hundred. Can't remember where exactly but when he went through every constituency he had it more like 120. He didn't see that happening but gave an example of how inaccurate the polling favouring a labour shock was. Canterbury university would need 100% turnout.

Paul Mason had heart saying a hung parliament but head saying a 20 seat Tory majority but Corbyn fighting a very strong campaign.

I think Corbyn is going to be around for a while and Blairites can do nothing about it. Chukka uMoana is probably glad in secret. More years hiding away.

Incidentally, where has the Chancellor John Hammond been?

COYP

Frickin Saweet South Cronx 08 Jun 17 12.51pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger You do realise that some people have and would give their lives just to get a vote. At least you voted, albeit for a protest group. which is why I didn't spoil it, I merely considered it as an option, and it was an option, not the right one, hence.

Frickin Saweet

South Cronx 08 Jun 17 12.51pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You do realise that some people have and would give their lives just to get a vote.

At least you voted, albeit for a protest group.

which is why I didn't spoil it, I merely considered it as an option, and it was an option, not the right one, hence.

lefty27 ipswich 08 Jun 17 12.52pm
A Tory landslide is good for what exactly? A strong position in Brexit negotiations? May can deliver the jobs she has promised, all on minimum wage with a zero hour contract!

lefty27

ipswich 08 Jun 17 12.52pm

A Tory landslide is good for what exactly?
A strong position in Brexit negotiations? May can deliver the jobs she has promised, all on minimum wage with a zero hour contract!

Rudi Hedman Caterham 08 Jun 17 12.52pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger So 42% will? That is a lot. I believe that it will be good for democracy in the long term if Labour are destroyed this time. Hopefully, far left ideology will be put to bed for another generation and we can have an opposition that is not run by an agitator but a statesman. Strong possibility its around for a while yet and in 5 year's time or sooner after Brexit it may get more momentum. Trouble is there is nobody talented in the PLP to take the baton. There's plenty intelligent enough members however. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 08 Jun 17 12.52pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So 42% will? That is a lot.

I believe that it will be good for democracy in the long term if Labour are destroyed this time.

Hopefully, far left ideology will be put to bed for another generation and we can have an opposition that is not run by an agitator but a statesman.

Strong possibility its around for a while yet and in 5 year's time or sooner after Brexit it may get more momentum. Trouble is there is nobody talented in the PLP to take the baton. There's plenty intelligent enough members however.

COYP

Rudi Hedman Caterham 08 Jun 17 12.55pm
Originally posted by lefty27 A Tory landslide is good for what exactly? A strong position in Brexit negotiations? May can deliver the jobs she has promised, all on minimum wage with a zero hour contract! Skiing, Vegas and the far flung holiday industry. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 08 Jun 17 12.55pm

Originally posted by lefty27

A Tory landslide is good for what exactly?
A strong position in Brexit negotiations? May can deliver the jobs she has promised, all on minimum wage with a zero hour contract!

Skiing, Vegas and the far flung holiday industry.

COYP

Kermit8 Hevon 08 Jun 17 12.59pm
Originally posted by lefty27 A Tory landslide is good for what exactly? A strong position in Brexit negotiations? May can deliver the jobs she has promised, all on minimum wage with a zero hour contract! The new (thanks Brexiteers) 'Little England/UK' us against the strongest trading block in the world, 27 nations, all sat around the table with May doing her best Don Corleone but sounding more like Donna Havaklu is the best we can hope for. We will be laughed out of the room. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 08 Jun 17 12.59pm

Originally posted by lefty27

A Tory landslide is good for what exactly?
A strong position in Brexit negotiations? May can deliver the jobs she has promised, all on minimum wage with a zero hour contract!

The new (thanks Brexiteers) 'Little England/UK' us against the strongest trading block in the world, 27 nations, all sat around the table with May doing her best Don Corleone but sounding more like Donna Havaklu is the best we can hope for.

We will be laughed out of the room.

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]

Hrolf The Ganger 08 Jun 17 1.01pm
Originally posted by Frickin Saweet which is why I didn't spoil it, I merely considered it as an option, and it was an option, not the right one, hence. Fair enough. Of course it is one's right not to vote but it also has the least influence.

Hrolf The Ganger

08 Jun 17 1.01pm

Originally posted by Frickin Saweet

which is why I didn't spoil it, I merely considered it as an option, and it was an option, not the right one, hence.

Fair enough. Of course it is one's right not to vote but it also has the least influence.

hedgehog50 Croydon 08 Jun 17 1.05pm
In EU elections, if there wasn't a UKIP candidate, I used to just write "Leave the EU" on the ballot paper. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 08 Jun 17 1.05pm

In EU elections, if there wasn't a UKIP candidate, I used to just write "Leave the EU" on the ballot paper.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Michaelawt85 Bexley 08 Jun 17 1.05pm
Originally posted by Willo May has never talked about any such 'Landslide'. I've not heard anything about any such 'Plots' and I am close to the party. Anyway, I have a very busy day, out 'Telling', Dropping people to the 'Polling Stations', at 'Committee Room' and much more so must go now ! Going to be a long day !!!! Edited by Willo (08 Jun 2017 10.36am) Used to love election day. Our house was a committee room for several general and local elections.Doing poll wwatch. Knocking up in the evening , bringing families out to vote, great times and great memories albeit for a different political party. When I was a young girl my Mother said to me.. You listen here kid you're CPFC

Michaelawt85

Bexley 08 Jun 17 1.05pm

Originally posted by Willo

May has never talked about any such 'Landslide'.
I've not heard anything about any such 'Plots' and I am close to the party.

Anyway, I have a very busy day, out 'Telling', Dropping people to the 'Polling Stations', at 'Committee Room' and much more so must go now ! Going to be a long day !!!!

Edited by Willo (08 Jun 2017 10.36am)

Used to love election day. Our house was a committee room for several general and local elections.Doing poll wwatch. Knocking up in the evening , bringing families out to vote, great times and great memories albeit for a different political party.

When I was a young girl my Mother said to me.. You listen here kid you're CPFC

Hrolf The Ganger 08 Jun 17 1.07pm
Originally posted by lefty27 A Tory landslide is good for what exactly? A strong position in Brexit negotiations? May can deliver the jobs she has promised, all on minimum wage with a zero hour contract! Well we have to ask ourselves if choosing a worst option just for a change is a good idea. I cannot accept, regardless of ideology, that people as inept as the likes of Jeremy Corbyn and Diane Abbott can possibly run my country better. They have displayed a level of incompetence that is unprecedented in political history. If one is serious about governing and one isn't that bright, for god sake at least do your homework.

Hrolf The Ganger

08 Jun 17 1.07pm

Originally posted by lefty27

A Tory landslide is good for what exactly?
A strong position in Brexit negotiations? May can deliver the jobs she has promised, all on minimum wage with a zero hour contract!

Well we have to ask ourselves if choosing a worst option just for a change is a good idea.

I cannot accept, regardless of ideology, that people as inept as the likes of Jeremy Corbyn and Diane Abbott can possibly run my country better. They have displayed a level of incompetence that is unprecedented in political history. If one is serious about governing and one isn't that bright, for god sake at least do your homework.

Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 08 Jun 17 1.09pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Fair enough. Of course it is one's right not to vote but it also has the least influence. As I've said before, it's a conscience issue. Voting is like endorsing a particular person and if there are no people on the ballot paper who even remotely represent your views, abstention is the only real alternative. I certainly wouldn't want it on my conscience that I assisted to power any of the egotistical, power-hungry, fckwitted charlatans on offer in my constituency. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham*

Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 08 Jun 17 1.09pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Fair enough. Of course it is one's right not to vote but it also has the least influence.

As I've said before, it's a conscience issue. Voting is like endorsing a particular person and if there are no people on the ballot paper who even remotely represent your views, abstention is the only real alternative. I certainly wouldn't want it on my conscience that I assisted to power any of the egotistical, power-hungry, f*ckwitted charlatans on offer in my constituency.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Hansy 08 Jun 17 1.25pm
Originally posted by lefty27 A Tory landslide is good for what exactly? A strong position in Brexit negotiations? May can deliver the jobs she has promised, all on minimum wage with a zero hour contract! Good negotiators for Brexit. They have a blank book to negotiate from. Labour will guarantee EU citizen rights in the UK immediately, and then seek UK citizen rights in the EU. I agree both sides should be doing this together anyway, but that sign to me shows they are weak when it comes to negotiating.

Hansy

08 Jun 17 1.25pm

Originally posted by lefty27

A Tory landslide is good for what exactly?
A strong position in Brexit negotiations? May can deliver the jobs she has promised, all on minimum wage with a zero hour contract!

Good negotiators for Brexit. They have a blank book to negotiate from.

Labour will guarantee EU citizen rights in the UK immediately, and then seek UK citizen rights in the EU.

I agree both sides should be doing this together anyway, but that sign to me shows they are weak when it comes to negotiating.

Frickin Saweet South Cronx 08 Jun 17 1.40pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt As I've said before, it's a conscience issue. Voting is like endorsing a particular person and if there are no people on the ballot paper who even remotely represent your views, abstention is the only real alternative. I certainly wouldn't want it on my conscience that I assisted to power any of the egotistical, power-hungry, f*ckwitted charlatans on offer in my constituency. exactly this. Most would have you believe that there is only an option A or B and you must choose one. I don't want Tory or Labour rule to be in my name

Frickin Saweet

South Cronx 08 Jun 17 1.40pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

exactly this. Most would have you believe that there is only an option A or B and you must choose one. I don't want Tory or Labour rule to be in my name

Lyons550 Shirley 08 Jun 17 1.47pm
Sod the Election for 5mins...the England U20's have just made the World Cup final having beaten Italy 3-1!! The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

Lyons550

Shirley 08 Jun 17 1.47pm

Sod the Election for 5mins...the England U20's have just made the World Cup final having beaten Italy 3-1!!

The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

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