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bexleydave Barnehurst 21 Jun 17 10.51am
Originally posted by daven I was also wondering why Dyche hasn't come out and made a statement saying that he is not interested in the Palace job. Considering he is one of the favourites for the job, and I don't buy the holiday excuse these technology days. I posed that question, what must now be, many pages back. Bearing in mind his frequently lauded loyalty to Burnley, you'd think he want to put them out of their misery one way or the other. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

bexleydave

Barnehurst 21 Jun 17 10.51am

Originally posted by daven

I was also wondering why Dyche hasn't come out and made a statement saying that he is not interested in the Palace job.
Considering he is one of the favourites for the job, and I don't buy the holiday excuse these technology days.

I posed that question, what must now be, many pages back. Bearing in mind his frequently lauded loyalty to Burnley, you'd think he want to put them out of their misery one way or the other.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

chateauferret 21 Jun 17 10.53am
Originally posted by daven I was also wondering why Dyche hasn't come out and made a statement saying that he is not interested in the Palace job. Considering he is one of the favourites for the job, and I don't buy the holiday excuse these technology days. It looks to me like his agent is playing it to try to get a better deal out of Burnley. If he were serious about coming here and we thought he was our preference, both he and Burnley would have wanted it done ages ago and he isn't in the frame for Southampton. ============ The Ferret ============

chateauferret

21 Jun 17 10.53am

Originally posted by daven

I was also wondering why Dyche hasn't come out and made a statement saying that he is not interested in the Palace job.
Considering he is one of the favourites for the job, and I don't buy the holiday excuse these technology days.

It looks to me like his agent is playing it to try to get a better deal out of Burnley. If he were serious about coming here and we thought he was our preference, both he and Burnley would have wanted it done ages ago and he isn't in the frame for Southampton.

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The Ferret
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Midlands Eagle 21 Jun 17 10.55am
Originally posted by bexleydave You can't have this both ways. We're told that, with the variety of modern methods of communication, it doesn't matter if Parish is on holiday 24/7, as it's not an impediment to getting business done. But on the other hand, Dyche is incommunicado because he's having a paddle and building a few sandcastles with a knotted hankie on his head. Both can't be correct can they? There was a huge outcry on HOL and the BBS a couple of years ago when Parish disappeared off to the West Indies in January when we were desperate to sign players and Parish countered that by stating that it didn't matter where in the world he was he was always available if needed. People who want a job don't disappear out of contact during the job hunting season

Midlands Eagle

21 Jun 17 10.55am

Originally posted by bexleydave

You can't have this both ways. We're told that, with the variety of modern methods of communication, it doesn't matter if Parish is on holiday 24/7, as it's not an impediment to getting business done. But on the other hand, Dyche is incommunicado because he's having a paddle and building a few sandcastles with a knotted hankie on his head. Both can't be correct can they?

There was a huge outcry on HOL and the BBS a couple of years ago when Parish disappeared off to the West Indies in January when we were desperate to sign players and Parish countered that by stating that it didn't matter where in the world he was he was always available if needed.

People who want a job don't disappear out of contact during the job hunting season

Bill Glazier Mitcham 21 Jun 17 10.57am
Originally posted by bexleydave I posed that question, what must now be, many pages back. Bearing in mind his frequently lauded loyalty to Burnley, you'd think he want to put them out of their misery one way or the other. Why does he have to,all that's happened is that the bookies have put his name on a long list. Then a long thread on here.

Bill Glazier

Mitcham 21 Jun 17 10.57am

Originally posted by bexleydave

I posed that question, what must now be, many pages back. Bearing in mind his frequently lauded loyalty to Burnley, you'd think he want to put them out of their misery one way or the other.

Why does he have to,all that's happened is that the bookies have put his name on a long list.
Then a long thread on here.

Rudi Hedman Caterham 21 Jun 17 10.58am
Originally posted by daven I was also wondering why Dyche hasn't come out and made a statement saying that he is not interested in the Palace job. Considering he is one of the favourites for the job, and I don't buy the holiday excuse these technology days. Yes and Burnley wanting to know either way means diddly squat when Dyche is silent on the matter and there's a £1 mil release clause on his contract. Burnley have very little say on this if Palace and Dyche are ant to make music. Why people are pretending they do is really odd. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 21 Jun 17 10.58am

Originally posted by daven

Yes and Burnley wanting to know either way means diddly squat when Dyche is silent on the matter and there's a £1 mil release clause on his contract. Burnley have very little say on this if Palace and Dyche are ant to make music. Why people are pretending they do is really odd.

COYP

Midlands Eagle 21 Jun 17 10.59am
Originally posted by CPFC/SCCC Parish suggested it in the American radio interview. With the ceiling being 8th place. Palace only being 5 pts off Southampton in 8th. The extra/extreme investment is hardly worth. The potential 3 or 5 places in the table. Worth extra 6 to 8m if 8th placed is achieved. If your an investor. We may have to go with the likes of Hennessy, ward and puncheon for one more season. I'm not sure that there was ever any realistic chance of upgrading the three that you mentioned as whilst all performed poorly under Pardew they upped their game when Big Sam came along. Central defender and second striker are probably the top requirements

Midlands Eagle

21 Jun 17 10.59am

Originally posted by CPFC/SCCC

Parish suggested it in the American radio interview. With the ceiling being 8th place. Palace only being 5 pts off Southampton in 8th. The extra/extreme investment is hardly worth. The potential 3 or 5 places in the table. Worth extra 6 to 8m if 8th placed is achieved. If your an investor. We may have to go with the likes of Hennessy, ward and puncheon for one more season.

I'm not sure that there was ever any realistic chance of upgrading the three that you mentioned as whilst all performed poorly under Pardew they upped their game when Big Sam came along.

Central defender and second striker are probably the top requirements

Midlands Eagle 21 Jun 17 11.01am
Originally posted by Bill Glazier Why does he have to,all that's happened is that the bookies have put his name on a long list. Then a long thread on here. That's not all that happened though as many of the media articles have claimed to know what Dyche is up to. Perhaps he has confirmed to his own board that he doesn't intend to leave. Or perhaps he hasn't

Midlands Eagle

21 Jun 17 11.01am

Originally posted by Bill Glazier

Why does he have to,all that's happened is that the bookies have put his name on a long list.
Then a long thread on here.

That's not all that happened though as many of the media articles have claimed to know what Dyche is up to.

Perhaps he has confirmed to his own board that he doesn't intend to leave.

Or perhaps he hasn't

bexleydave Barnehurst 21 Jun 17 11.01am
Originally posted by Bill Glazier Why does he have to,all that's happened is that the bookies have put his name on a long list. Then a long thread on here. Well, when the media is carrying stories, that could potentially be damaging to your relationship with your current employer, it's usual to either deny of confirm them to stop the speculation; that's why. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

bexleydave

Barnehurst 21 Jun 17 11.01am

Originally posted by Bill Glazier

Why does he have to,all that's happened is that the bookies have put his name on a long list.
Then a long thread on here.

Well, when the media is carrying stories, that could potentially be damaging to your relationship with your current employer, it's usual to either deny of confirm them to stop the speculation; that's why.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

Bill Glazier Mitcham 21 Jun 17 11.04am
Originally posted by bexleydave This isn't executive recruitment and the problem is that we're treating it as if it is. Like it or not, with respect to managers of any sort of quality, we're the beggars and they're the choosers. If we don't identify a target, make sure both parties are on the same page, and offer the job we risk the Sherwood situation where we get told to stick it. Surely succession planning is about not being "surprised". We should have had an ongoing list of potential replacements, properly researched, so that we could identify the best target and go that. With our record of managers upping and leaving unexpectedly, together with Sam having a six-month break clause, we should have been better prepared. The tired cliché that any opposition to Dyche is because he isn't "foreign" has long-since been debunked. Those who don't want Dyche are so minded because they don't think he's good enough and that he won't bring anything new to the party. Liverpool used to have the best succession planning years ago. The boot room.Promotion from within. Unfortunately gone nowadays,mind you Leicester are giving it a try.

Bill Glazier

Mitcham 21 Jun 17 11.04am

Originally posted by bexleydave

This isn't executive recruitment and the problem is that we're treating it as if it is. Like it or not, with respect to managers of any sort of quality, we're the beggars and they're the choosers. If we don't identify a target, make sure both parties are on the same page, and offer the job we risk the Sherwood situation where we get told to stick it.

Surely succession planning is about not being "surprised". We should have had an ongoing list of potential replacements, properly researched, so that we could identify the best target and go that. With our record of managers upping and leaving unexpectedly, together with Sam having a six-month break clause, we should have been better prepared.

The tired cliché that any opposition to Dyche is because he isn't "foreign" has long-since been debunked. Those who don't want Dyche are so minded because they don't think he's good enough and that he won't bring anything new to the party.

Liverpool used to have the best succession planning years ago.
The boot room.Promotion from within.
Unfortunately gone nowadays,mind you Leicester are giving it a try.

bexleydave Barnehurst 21 Jun 17 11.04am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle That's not all that happened though as many of the media articles have claimed to know what Dyche is up to. Perhaps he has confirmed to his own board that he doesn't intend to leave. Or perhaps he hasn't If he has, then I'd have expected a statement from Burnley, as this kind of speculation is destabilising for any club. Parish wasn't slow to announce that, much to his surprise, Freedman had asked to be allowed to talk to Bolton, was he? Edited by bexleydave (21 Jun 2017 11.08am) Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

bexleydave

Barnehurst 21 Jun 17 11.04am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

That's not all that happened though as many of the media articles have claimed to know what Dyche is up to.

Perhaps he has confirmed to his own board that he doesn't intend to leave.

Or perhaps he hasn't

If he has, then I'd have expected a statement from Burnley, as this kind of speculation is destabilising for any club. Parish wasn't slow to announce that, much to his surprise, Freedman had asked to be allowed to talk to Bolton, was he?

Edited by bexleydave (21 Jun 2017 11.08am)

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

Den1923 21 Jun 17 11.06am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle That's not all that happened though as many of the media articles have claimed to know what Dyche is up to. Perhaps he has confirmed to his own board that he doesn't intend to leave. Or perhaps he hasn't I thought he had a rolling yearly contract so I guess that has been renewed and that is where the speculation on the 1mil compensation comes from as otherwise at the end of this month he would be out of contract?

Den1923

21 Jun 17 11.06am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

That's not all that happened though as many of the media articles have claimed to know what Dyche is up to.

Perhaps he has confirmed to his own board that he doesn't intend to leave.

Or perhaps he hasn't

I thought he had a rolling yearly contract so I guess that has been renewed and that is where the speculation on the 1mil compensation comes from as otherwise at the end of this month he would be out of contract?

Midlands Eagle 21 Jun 17 11.08am
Originally posted by bexleydave If he has, then I'd have expected a statement from Burnley, as this kind of speculation is destabilising for any club. Perhaps they have already accepted that he is leaving and are quietly interviewing Pellegrino and FDB to replace him. OK. Perhaps not

Midlands Eagle

21 Jun 17 11.08am

Originally posted by bexleydave

If he has, then I'd have expected a statement from Burnley, as this kind of speculation is destabilising for any club.

Perhaps they have already accepted that he is leaving and are quietly interviewing Pellegrino and FDB to replace him.

OK. Perhaps not

Midlands Eagle 21 Jun 17 11.10am
I've just checked on the BBS and they haven't got a manager yet either

Midlands Eagle

21 Jun 17 11.10am

I've just checked on the BBS and they haven't got a manager yet either

bexleydave Barnehurst 21 Jun 17 11.12am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Perhaps they have already accepted that he is leaving and are quietly interviewing Pellegrino and FDB to replace him. OK. Perhaps not Oh, that would be the final twist in the tail wouldn't it? Pellegrino to Southampton, de Boer to Burnley and we get the bobby prize. That would truly be the Palace way Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

bexleydave

Barnehurst 21 Jun 17 11.12am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Perhaps they have already accepted that he is leaving and are quietly interviewing Pellegrino and FDB to replace him.

OK. Perhaps not

Oh, that would be the final twist in the tail wouldn't it? Pellegrino to Southampton, de Boer to Burnley and we get the bobby prize. That would truly be the Palace way

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

sa_eagle Just outside Cape Town 21 Jun 17 11.13am
Originally posted by MattLeyland28 Like you say we would surely have to contact Burnley about Dyche! Makes me think if he was who we wanted then they would have told us to get it done pronto so they could replace him! Given the timescale we must be looking elsewhere? I do hope so! Cynic or realist? It's a fine line!

sa_eagle

Just outside Cape Town 21 Jun 17 11.13am

Originally posted by MattLeyland28

Like you say we would surely have to contact Burnley about Dyche! Makes me think if he was who we wanted then they would have told us to get it done pronto so they could replace him! Given the timescale we must be looking elsewhere?

I do hope so!

Cynic or realist? It's a fine line!

bexleydave Barnehurst 21 Jun 17 11.15am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I've just checked on the BBS and they haven't got a manager yet either That's because they're an unmanageable bunch of anarchists over there Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

bexleydave

Barnehurst 21 Jun 17 11.15am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I've just checked on the BBS and they haven't got a manager yet either

That's because they're an unmanageable bunch of anarchists over there

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

Bill Glazier Mitcham 21 Jun 17 11.19am
Originally posted by bexleydave Oh, that would be the final twist in the tail wouldn't it? Pellegrino to Southampton, de Boer to Burnley and we get the bobby prize. That would truly be the Palace way Unless the booby prize wins Football matches. That's the job regardless of surname.

Bill Glazier

Mitcham 21 Jun 17 11.19am

Originally posted by bexleydave

Oh, that would be the final twist in the tail wouldn't it? Pellegrino to Southampton, de Boer to Burnley and we get the bobby prize. That would truly be the Palace way

Unless the booby prize wins Football matches.
That's the job regardless of surname.

Bill Glazier Mitcham 21 Jun 17 11.20am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I've just checked on the BBS and they haven't got a manager yet either Very good.

Bill Glazier

Mitcham 21 Jun 17 11.20am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I've just checked on the BBS and they haven't got a manager yet either

Very good.

peterg Anerley 21 Jun 17 11.38am
The bookies have Pellegrino as favourite at both Palace and Southampton! The right place at the right time

peterg

Anerley 21 Jun 17 11.38am

The bookies have Pellegrino as favourite at both Palace and Southampton!

The right place at the right time

bexleydave Barnehurst 21 Jun 17 11.40am
Originally posted by peterg The bookies have Pellegrino as favourite at both Palace and Southampton! Which tells you what they know Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

bexleydave

Barnehurst 21 Jun 17 11.40am

Originally posted by peterg

The bookies have Pellegrino as favourite at both Palace and Southampton!

Which tells you what they know

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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