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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 09 Jun 17 3.50pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

It gave added buoyancy to the Labour vote, though.

I don't doubt it. Then again its a bit of a weird thing that getting 2.4% more of the vote, delivers 57 more seats in parliament.

Its almost as if the game is rigged towards self interest by which ever group is in power.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 09 Jun 17 3.55pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Is this the discussion Canterbury still? Didn't they dump loads of housing benefit people there?


Edited by hedgehog50 (09 Jun 2017 3.48pm)

Absolutely no idea. Presumably that would be in the last few years though, given the Tory Majority - which maybe was something maybe the government and local Conservative held council should have thought twice about.

 


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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 09 Jun 17 3.57pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I don't doubt it. Then again its a bit of a weird thing that getting 2.4% more of the vote, delivers 57 more seats in parliament.

Its almost as if the game is rigged towards self interest by which ever group is in power.

232 in 2015. 261 in 2017. I make that 29. Have you been taking maths lessons from Miss Abbott?

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Jun 17 4.13pm

Originally posted by pefwin

Hates ethnic minorities, students, Catholics, women, gay people, people with political differences, hmmmm.

If you were on a dating website would you interests include burning books, and smashing store windows?

When did I ever post anything that suggested that?

More lefty/liberal debate stalling bulls***.

I don't hate anyone for their ethnicity. My kids are students, My sister in law is Catholic, I'm married to a woman and I am an advocate of gay rights.

I'm not keen on smart arse, holier than thou liberal/lefties though.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Jun 17 4.15pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Hasn't it always been a university town though. Why has it suddenly changed.

I assume because the yout' came out and voted.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Jun 17 4.18pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Didn't help at the last two general elections?


Edited by jamiemartin721 (09 Jun 2017 3.28pm)

But they are still arriving at a rate of 300k ish per year. That has got to make a dent.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 09 Jun 17 4.25pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I don't doubt it. Then again its a bit of a weird thing that getting 2.4% more of the vote, delivers 57 more seats in parliament.

Its almost as if the game is rigged towards self interest by which ever group is in power.

That and where the MPs appear in the build up.

Lots of ferrying voters around in Wallington and central Croydon. No point in East Surrey. Don't even knock on your door. Corbyn spread he and his team about a bit more than May. She ignored bits of the south she could've kept.

 


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susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 09 Jun 17 4.28pm

Originally posted by Michaelawt85

Even I said aloud f***ing hell when Emily matliss pulled the Canterbury facts up on the computer this morning. Held by the Tories since WORLD WAR ONE. Not anymore!

Remember Canterbury is full of students hence the vote change towards Corbyn due to his promises of FREE Tuition and cheap housing it is pretty obvious when you look at it really and not surprising. Theresa May missed a treat on that one.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 09 Jun 17 4.31pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

232 in 2015. 261 in 2017. I make that 29. Have you been taking maths lessons from Miss Abbott?

Possibly.

318 Conservative Seats subtract 261 Labour seats is 57 seats. The tories polled 2.4% more than Labour, which I don't think works out as 57 more seats.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 09 Jun 17 4.32pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

That and where the MPs appear in the build up.

Lots of ferrying voters around in Wallington and central Croydon. No point in East Surrey. Don't even knock on your door. Corbyn spread he and his team about a bit more than May. She ignored bits of the south she could've kept.

Don't forget the hundreds of thousands of ordinary Labour members who mobilised and got the message out on the doorstep and in the street. I was scoffed at before (during the labour leadership election when there was a surge in membership) when I said they would make a difference.

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 09 Jun 17 4.33pm

Originally posted by susmik

Remember Canterbury is full of students hence the vote change towards Corbyn due to his promises of FREE Tuition and cheap housing it is pretty obvious when you look at it really and not surprising. Theresa May missed a treat on that one.

free tuition like what it was in the old days before those that got it decided that others shouldn't.

 

jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 09 Jun 17 4.37pm

Originally posted by susmik

Remember Canterbury is full of students hence the vote change towards Corbyn due to his promises of FREE Tuition and cheap housing it is pretty obvious when you look at it really and not surprising. Theresa May missed a treat on that one.

Yes, but Canterbury has always been a student city, and its been held by the Conservatives since 1918.

Of course those students are right as well. Tuition fees are a disgrace, and housing is far too expensive (student or otherwise).

If you want a good job entry you need a degree. We're asking people to rack up huge debts in order to fulfil the recruitment needs of UK corporations, and in doing so undermining the UK cultural interests and academia.

Now I'll agree too many people go to university - but companies need to be providing reasonable other routes into professions outside of graduate programs.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 09 Jun 17 4.38pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

But they are still arriving at a rate of 300k ish per year. That has got to make a dent.

Only those who are citizens can vote.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Jun 17 4.39pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Yes, but Canterbury has always been a student city, and its been held by the Conservatives since 1918.

Of course those students are right as well. Tuition fees are a disgrace, and housing is far too expensive (student or otherwise).

If you want a good job entry you need a degree. We're asking people to rack up huge debts in order to fulfil the recruitment needs of UK corporations, and in doing so undermining the UK cultural interests and academia.

Now I'll agree too many people go to university - but companies need to be providing reasonable other routes into professions outside of graduate programs.


A lot of people will never pay it back.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Jun 17 4.40pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Only those who are citizens can vote.

True. But 'citizens' are increasing year on year thanks to Mr Blair.

 

Bert the Head Flag Epsom 09 Jun 17 11.48pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

True. But 'citizens' are increasing year on year thanks to Mr Blair.


You are kidding yourself a bit there. Blair has been out of power a long while now. There was a home secretary called May who has a more recent role...but a man hears what he wants wants to hear and disregards the rest.

Anyway its all about powerful people using immigration to undermine wages to increase profits. Basic Marx theory and relevant. The powerful people rely on stupid people blaming other people who at the end of the day just want a f*cking job.


Edited by Bert the Head (09 Jun 2017 11.50pm)

 

Bert the Head Flag Epsom 09 Jun 17 11.58pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


A lot of people will never pay it back.

I don't agree that "too many people go to university". Education for its own sake is a great thing. The fact is that now there aren't really enough jobs to go round and its getting tougher. Instead of this competition driving a race to the bottom for working people we could share the wealth of the 6th richest country on earth more equitably and work less hours. This would allow us to devote time to voluntary work or other stuff. We don't need to work from 16 to 67.

 

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 12 Jun 17 4.22am

Originally posted by Bert the Head


You are kidding yourself a bit there. Blair has been out of power a long while now. There was a home secretary called May who has a more recent role...but a man hears what he wants wants to hear and disregards the rest.

Anyway its all about powerful people using immigration to undermine wages to increase profits. Basic Marx theory and relevant. The powerful people rely on stupid people blaming other people who at the end of the day just want a f*cking job.

yeah


Edited by Bert the Head (09 Jun 2017 11.50pm)

 

jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 12 Jun 17 8.32am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


A lot of people will never pay it back.

Then why have it. If a lot of people aren't ever going to be in a position to pay back the debts of tuition fees (which I doubt), then its unfair to those who are.

The problem is that we've created a system where in getting a good job requires a degree and forced more people into having to go to university (which also keeps the unemployment figures down).

Accademic education shouldn't be a requirement for a entry level job except within things like academia, research etc.

 


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DanH Flag SW2 12 Jun 17 10.34am

I hope this sneering at the young/student vote continues. Guaranteed to mobilise more people to vote when we have another inevitable election in the next year or so.

 

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