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 Cucking Funt  Clapham on the Back 12 Jun 17 3.40pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Is that a reference to the political landscape? I think you can do better, put yer art into it a bit more. A perfectly placed pass which you've tapped home beautifully. Well done. Perhaps you're not such a claude after all.
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 Mapletree Croydon 12 Jun 17 3.52pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
What I see is trying to fund these services at a level that is sustainable. Throwing borrowed monet at things didn't work under Labour last time and it won't in the future. The NHS in particular needs to be more accountable for what it spends and needs to be realistic about what it can do. Right, so borrowing money to invest is a wrong thing to do. Better tell the whole of the private sector that then. It is appropriate to fund the NHS to the level where it can achieve its SLAs. Otherwise it's simply bad management. For information, here is a list (in order) of countries that spend more per capita than the UK: USA (136% more)
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| steeleye20 Croydon 12 Jun 17 4.07pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I don't think many people in the electorate make informed choices. It's just that voting for Corbyn on the basis that he is 'a nice man' or 'in touch with the people' or creating 'a new brand of politics' is so staggeringly misguided and naive. Corbyn has experience and judgement simply the best man for the job IMO. In a minority or very close situation he would be ideal as as man who can sit down with people of a different persuasion.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 12 Jun 17 4.09pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Corbyn has experience and judgement simply the best man for the job IMO. In a minority or very close situation he would be ideal as as man who can sit down with people of a different persuasion. There's the flaw.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 12 Jun 17 4.12pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Is that a reference to the political landscape? I think you can do better, put yer art into it a bit more. Is that the impression I created?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 12 Jun 17 4.21pm |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
It's a good job they were proposing to fund it through tax increases then wasn't it. If not they'd only be adding to the current Tory policy of borrowing more than all labour governments put together. Quite an achievement in fairness when you include the Blair era in that. So you complain about borrowing on the one hand and cuts on the other? A bit of a confusing attitude.
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| komakino over the hills and far away... 12 Jun 17 5.00pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Labour membership up by 150,000 since the election. Now hitting 800,000 mark.
If only 1% knock on doors, that's still a lot of activists and campaigners. Probably helped to scupper May. I was laughed at when I said rank and file campaigners will make a difference. More lies by the limp wristed lefties
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Kermit8  Hevon 12 Jun 17 5.02pm |
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15,000 not 150,000. Obviously a typo/Chinese whisper. Move along now.
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| komakino over the hills and far away... 12 Jun 17 5.05pm |
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The figure or Labour's entire manifesto?
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| Mstrobez 12 Jun 17 5.06pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
So you complain about borrowing on the one hand and cuts on the other? A bit of a confusing attitude. No I don't, I merely point out the hypocrisy and irony of Tory approach.
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| Mstrobez 12 Jun 17 5.11pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Right, so borrowing money to invest is a wrong thing to do. Better tell the whole of the private sector that then. It is appropriate to fund the NHS to the level where it can achieve its SLAs. Otherwise it's simply bad management. For information, here is a list (in order) of countries that spend more per capita than the UK: USA (136% more) Also worth pointing out the countries in the g20 with higher corporation tax than a Corbyn government was proposing: Canada But apparently he would've disincentivized all with ambition. "Basic economics" apparently
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| komakino over the hills and far away... 12 Jun 17 5.32pm |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
Also worth pointing out the countries in the g20 with higher corporation tax than a Corbyn government was proposing: Canada But apparently he would've disincentivized all with ambition. "Basic economics" apparently A bit like saying "i've got genital warts. Not as bad as my mate Bob has though" having genital warts is still going to put the skirt off from getting frisky isn't it. You may get more than Bob, but you'd miss out on a fair few and the ones that want to jump on your old chap will be of a lower standard too.
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| Mstrobez 12 Jun 17 5.37pm |
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Originally posted by komakino
A bit like saying "i've got genital warts. Not as bad as my mate Bob has though" having genital warts is still going to put the skirt off from getting frisky isn't it. You may get more than Bob, but you'd miss out on a fair few and the ones that want to jump on your old chap will be of a lower standard too. Any evidence to back your beautifully devised analogy up or just usual bulls***?
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| komakino over the hills and far away... 12 Jun 17 5.46pm |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
Any evidence to back your beautifully devised analogy up or just usual bulls***? Will the Financial Times do? "The Institute of Directors said a rise in corporation tax was “not something we would support”, adding: “It looks like the corporation tax competition will be a big feature of Donald Trump’s presidency. It is at a good competitive level in the UK right now and we wouldn’t want it to go back up.” "Adam Marshall, director-general of the British Chambers of Commerce, said higher corporation tax would “alarm” companies unless it was linked to a corresponding cut in other levies such as business rates. “We need to send a message that the country is open for business after Brexit. A big increase in a profit tax does not send that message,” he said." Any evidence to suggest raising corporation tax wouldn't scare off businesses? Or what about increasing the minimum wage to £10 per hour and how it would choke small businesses? Oh and who would pay for University Tuition fees if not the students themselves? But it's ok isn't it - we can just keep borrowing from banks (funnily enough the same institutions Labour are so against?)
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| Mstrobez 12 Jun 17 6.09pm |
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Originally posted by komakino
Will the Financial Times do? "The Institute of Directors said a rise in corporation tax was “not something we would support”, adding: “It looks like the corporation tax competition will be a big feature of Donald Trump’s presidency. It is at a good competitive level in the UK right now and we wouldn’t want it to go back up.” "Adam Marshall, director-general of the British Chambers of Commerce, said higher corporation tax would “alarm” companies unless it was linked to a corresponding cut in other levies such as business rates. “We need to send a message that the country is open for business after Brexit. A big increase in a profit tax does not send that message,” he said." Any evidence to suggest raising corporation tax wouldn't scare off businesses? Or what about increasing the minimum wage to £10 per hour and how it would choke small businesses? Oh and who would pay for University Tuition fees if not the students themselves? But it's ok isn't it - we can just keep borrowing from banks (funnily enough the same institutions Labour are so against?) I've given you my evidence in plain English, quoting the obvious low rate despite the increase. There are many people you can quote making blasè statements about any economic policy, you're gonna need something a bit better than that. More business owners than you'd suspect voted for Jeremy Corbyn.
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| komakino over the hills and far away... 12 Jun 17 6.50pm |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
I've given you my evidence in plain English, quoting the obvious low rate despite the increase. There are many people you can quote making blasè statements about any economic policy, you're gonna need something a bit better than that. More business owners than you'd suspect voted for Jeremy Corbyn.
"More business owners than you'd suspect voted for Jeremy Corbyn" any evidence to support that?
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| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 12 Jun 17 6.51pm |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
I've given you my evidence in plain English, quoting the obvious low rate despite the increase. There are many people you can quote making blasè statements about any economic policy, you're gonna need something a bit better than that. More business owners than you'd suspect voted for Jeremy Corbyn. That's just a blind statement. I know several and none of them did.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 12 Jun 17 6.55pm |
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Originally posted by komakino
The director-general of commerce's stated is blasé? Plllleeeease.... "More business owners than you'd suspect voted for Jeremy Corbyn" any evidence to support that? Well, I suspect no business owners voted for Corbyn. But I am prepared to accept that maybe some bearded owner of a herbal tea-bar in Islington might have done.
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 12 Jun 17 7.08pm |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
I've given you my evidence in plain English, quoting the obvious low rate despite the increase. There are many people you can quote making blasè statements about any economic policy, you're gonna need something a bit better than that. More business owners than you'd suspect voted for Jeremy Corbyn. Got a link ?
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