I am obviously for the exit and have yet to hear why we should stay. Apparently some bod was on the tv this morning and during his opinion he commented without thinking that European markets were expanding. Really? Has he not seen how Europe is a diminishing proportion of our export market? Does he even understand what this is or means> Anyone hear this ill informed nob? Highly likely he's another Cameron chum.

The few years of readjusting and adapting to life out of the EU with perhaps a small drop in GDP will be worth it. But then none of our politicians have the nerve to negotiate anything. You don't really have to when your party whip makes you all keep in line and you can flip properties whenever you fancy. Make them earn their privileges is what I say.

The car industry is a good are for the scaremongering 'stayers' to use but what they fail to see are the BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Renault, Peugeot, Fiat etc that can have tariffs applied if we so wish.

The Jap companies have already said they'd prefer to be us to be in the EU but would keep plants in th UK. Why? Because they cannot trust Euro workers to a) turn up, b) be able to do the job with minimal training, c) strike because the croissants weren't fresh this morning, d) Because the countries that do have the skilled workforce have competitors in their country who won't take kindly to that. Well there's the clue in the tariff threat from France.

France? F***ing France. Threats from them will go down well.

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A French government minister has sparked a row by suggesting his country could end UK border controls in Calais if Britain leaves the EU.

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The French are worse than our 'In' lot with all the scaremongering. Ironically one of the only foreign (ex) ministers to suggest there were advantages to us leaving was Varoufakis.

"Tariff barriers would mean higher costs and higher prices and we cannot assume that the UK would be granted free trade with Europe from outside the EU."

So basically there's no basis to assume trade would be affected, unless you're also going to assume EU businesses will be happy to damage themselves by not trading with us.

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If nothing else convinces me that we should leave the EU it's that we are conjoined with, but holding less power than, the f***ing French. I f***ing hate the f***ing French.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

Ha ha ha. I had to live in France for a year. When you've endured such a sentence come back to me. There's not a drop of British blood in me, would be hypocritical of me to hate foreigners

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

As much as Brummies?

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And there's some idiots out there who think the 'inies' are driven by anglophobia

It's funny how when anyone voices an opinion that puts the opposing view, they're called scaremongers, but if their opinion concurs, they're the voice of reason!

Fact is no-one knows what's going to happen with an exit, it might be ok it might not, but it's quite possible that at least some of the downside that's being suggested might actually happen.

Equally, staying isn't a panacea, there's plenty wrong with the EU, but to say we'll definitely be better off on our own is self-delusion, we just don't know until it happens (if it happens).

For the record, I don't actually hate the French; I've met plenty of to$$pots in England who I'd dislike more.

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The French "outbursts" were carefully timed and choreographed with Cameron's visit to France.

Don't worry.... as I said earlier in the thread - these scaremongering outbursts will rise in magnitude over the preamble towards polling day both in number and severity... particularly if the polls continue to be unmoved and a leave vote looks likely.

I know the sorry bunch of desperados like Dave, Clegg, Blair, Mandleson, Clarke, Heseltine, the BBC, etc are indeed becoming desperate as it dawns on them that 'out' might win, but setting the police on a 15-year-old for accessing a UKIP website really does illustrate why we need a change to all the politically correct claptrap of recent years.

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