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chateauferret Flag 22 Jun 17 2.20am

Originally posted by BigNasty12
Essentially we're rudderless ship spinning in circles and Chairman with a decision making disorder.

A lot of silly things have been said in this mammoth thread but not many of them are as wide of the mark as this.

 


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black eagle. Flag south croydon. 22 Jun 17 2.49am

Steve Parish is apparently out of the country so there must be a plan/ contingency plan in place.

 

Petereagle Flag Brockley 22 Jun 17 4.36am

Originally posted by black eagle.

Steve Parish is apparently out of the country so there must be a plan/ contingency plan in place.

I have been as impatient as anyone, but then I have had to reflect that: he is very smart h and very experienced now (probably TOO experienced for his own comfort in getting a new manager in); He loves Palace and wants probably more than any of us for the club to prosper; He likes to do things privately outside of the glare of publicity; his main priority is surely to get the right man and right team in ready for preseason training and there is still time to do that. I should get a life and enjoy the summer weather!

 

bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 22 Jun 17 6.31am

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

Live on scraps? Don't we pay something like the 10th highest wage bill?

Don't we consistently try to add quality to the squad?

Mandanda
Townsend
Wilf (new contract)
Benteke
Schulp
Milo
PVA

I'm confused when I read people complaining that our team isn't moving forward.

When's the last time a club poached a player we didn't want to sell.

Some comments sound as if we're being run badly and on a shoe string budget. Which clearly isn't the case.

Personally think fans should be less negative and look at the greatness the club is doing moving us forward.

I don't get why people are hating on the Americans, what have they done wrong?

Did they dig deep when we need it in Jan? Yes

It's like people are complaining about things that haven't even happened yet. Assuming the worse when there record has actually been a positive for the club.

Imagine if the rumours are true and we beat West Ham in singing Inheancho....

Apparently an attacking midfielder from turkey is a done deal.

What else is being worked on in the back round...

Who knows..

But we do know Parish works with a huge amount of privacy surrounding him which is for the good of the club to get things done without interference from other clubs and agents.

Why why why we dig him or the Americans out I have no clue.

But it's not very supportive to read IMO.

You have selected part of a discussion, out of context, and gone into a pointless rant.

The discussion related to reports that the US investors are in disagreement with Parish over the choice of manager because they want Dyche and he doesn't. The reason for their choice being that he works on a shoestring budget and they want to rein in spending. There are separate reports that Dyche is unsure about the Palace job due to a proposed lack of transfer budget. I was careful to couch my comments in terms of if either or both of these reports were true.

I have also pointed out that Parish had indicated that transfers were to be Sakho plus one, if Sam had stayed, which equated to around £40m; a decent sum in my view. If the US investors are now wishing to spend less than that, then there is legitimate cause for concern.

Perhaps next time, you should check the whole story before you start hammering away at your keyboard.

Edited by bexleydave (22 Jun 2017 6.32am)

 


Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 22 Jun 17 6.58am

Parish also clearly said in the same sentence that, now we need a new mamaneger transfers would likely be more.

As for rumours about the Americans... blah blah blah

Just rumours with no substance.

My understanding is we have no interest in Dyche and haven't spoken to him so any article mentioning us thinking about him goes straight to the click bait junk bin.

Anyway Dave I've used your post as an example, there's a plethora of others I could have picked.

My point is I think we should keep perspective over how our club is run and the people in charge. I'm proud of our ownership and sad when I constantly see negative posts with little to no substance.


Edited by Goldfiinger (22 Jun 2017 7.14am)

 

sa_eagle Flag Just outside Cape Town 22 Jun 17 7.18am

Originally posted by Petereagle

365 pages or so!

A mere 89 if your settings are right.

 


Cynic or realist? It's a fine line!

Midlands Eagle Flag 22 Jun 17 7.23am

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

As for rumours about the Americans... blah blah blah

Just rumours with no substance.

My understanding is we have no interest in Dyche and haven't spoken to him so any article mentioning us thinking about him goes straight to the click bait junk bin.

Where does your understanding that we have no interest in Dyche come from if it's not from the very same media outlets that you claim are just click bait?

 

black eagle. Flag south croydon. 22 Jun 17 7.35am

Bloke on talksport said Pellegrino is in advance talks with Southampton and something could be announced today.

 

GladAllOver27 Flag 22 Jun 17 7.38am

Originally posted by black eagle.

Bloke on talksport said Pellegrino is in advance talks with Southampton and something could be announced today.

This is the concern for me. Spent too much time trying to persuade pellergino. If this becomes unsuccessful. Will a dyche or de Boer be happy to be 2nd choice.

 

bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 22 Jun 17 7.38am

Originally posted by black eagle.

Bloke on talksport said Pellegrino is in advance talks with Southampton and something could be announced today.


Well that would help and end the rumour that no announcement can be made in respect of him before July. It won't help though if the rumours that our board can't agree on the next manager have any truth in them; let's hope they don't.

 


Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 22 Jun 17 7.41am

Originally posted by GladAllOver27

This is the concern for me. Spent too much time trying to persuade pellergino. If this becomes unsuccessful. Will a dyche or de Boer be happy to be 2nd choice.


It's a good question, but we don't know if either are our second choice as we've no idea who the club want to appoint.

 


Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

black eagle. Flag south croydon. 22 Jun 17 7.46am

Originally posted by GladAllOver27

This is the concern for me. Spent too much time trying to persuade pellergino. If this becomes unsuccessful. Will a dyche or de Boer be happy to be 2nd choice.

Yeah true.who wants to be sloppy seconds.i'm
Talking about De Boer who I favoured slightly over Pellegrino not Dyche.

 

GladAllOver27 Flag 22 Jun 17 7.48am

Originally posted by bexleydave


It's a good question, but we don't know if either are our second choice as we've no idea who the club want to appoint.

I'd be happy with de Boer, pellergino or Claude puel. All good candidates. Just want a decision and start planning for next season.

 

CPFC/SCCC Flag Sutton 22 Jun 17 8.03am

Personally think we would be mad, not to interview the ex saints manager. 8th place finish in the premier league not to be sniffed at. Granted his football, not pleasing on the eye. His experience in the league would edge him ahead the likes of de Boer and pellergino for me.

Here's puel record

Monaco - 91 games. - 48% win rate
Lille. - 298 games - 39.9% win rate
Lyon - 154. Games. - 48.05% win rate
Nice- 167 games - 40.72%. Win rate
Saints - 53 games. - 37.74%. Win rate

To achieve 100 games as a manager at one club is the stability we need. If we can't appoint one of the 3 preferred candidates. I'd definitely offer the job to puel. He was sacked at saints because of the style of football rather than the results, he achieved.

Edited by CPFC/SCCC (22 Jun 2017 8.30am)

 


Andy Johnson Magic, He wears a Magic Hat
When he Sees the match ball, he says he having that
He scores one with left foot, he scores one with his right
And When his playing Brighton, He scores all f***ING Night!

GladAllOver27 Flag 22 Jun 17 8.09am

Seen on twitter that S.parish is out the country. Wouldn't expect a decision today.

 

black eagle. Flag south croydon. 22 Jun 17 8.24am

Originally posted by CPFC/SCCC

Personally think we would be mad not to interview the ex saints manager. 8th place finish in the premier league not to be sniffed at. Granted his football, not pleasing on the eye. His experience in the league would edge him ahead the likes of de Boer and pellergino for me.

Here's puel record

Monaco - 91 games. - 48% win rate
Lille. - 298 games - 39.9% win rate
Lyon - 154. Games. - 48.05% win rate
Nice- 167 games - 40.72%. Win rate
Saints - 53 games. - 37.74%. Win rate

To achieve 100 games as a manager at one club is the stability we need. If we can't appoint one of the 3 preferred candidates. I'd definitely offer the job to puel. He was sacked at saints because of the style of football rather than the results, he achieved.

Thing with puel Southampton only scored 17 goals at home which tells me his a very very defensive coach.

Agree though worth an interview if we can't get our main targets.

 

CPFC/SCCC Flag Sutton 22 Jun 17 8.28am

Originally posted by black eagle.

Thing with puel Southampton only scored 17 goals at home which tells me his a very very defensive coach.

Agree though worth an interview if we can't get our main targets.

Wasn't pulis and big Sam defensive coaches. Pellergino side scored the same amount of goals in the 38 matches as puel did.

Southampton 2016/2017 38 games played- 41 total goals scored... Alaves 2016/2017 38 games played- 41 total goals scored.

 


Andy Johnson Magic, He wears a Magic Hat
When he Sees the match ball, he says he having that
He scores one with left foot, he scores one with his right
And When his playing Brighton, He scores all f***ING Night!

Den1923 Flag 22 Jun 17 8.35am

Originally posted by bexleydave

You have selected part of a discussion, out of context, and gone into a pointless rant.

The discussion related to reports that the US investors are in disagreement with Parish over the choice of manager because they want Dyche and he doesn't. The reason for their choice being that he works on a shoestring budget and they want to rein in spending. There are separate reports that Dyche is unsure about the Palace job due to a proposed lack of transfer budget. I was careful to couch my comments in terms of if either or both of these reports were true.

I have also pointed out that Parish had indicated that transfers were to be Sakho plus one, if Sam had stayed, which equated to around £40m; a decent sum in my view. If the US investors are now wishing to spend less than that, then there is legitimate cause for concern.

Perhaps next time, you should check the whole story before you start hammering away at your keyboard.

Edited by bexleydave (22 Jun 2017 6.32am)

Well said, whatever had happened in the past, we can't change and we now need to move forward and that does include investing in the team especially in defence where we look fragile at times, especially when key players are injured and our cover is that comes in is championship quality at best. lets hope this all coming to a head and that we will have some good news in the next couple of days, it very frustrating for us all but its the future that matters now as we do need to be getting on with our preparation.

 

black eagle. Flag south croydon. 22 Jun 17 8.47am

Originally posted by CPFC/SCCC

Wasn't pulis and big Sam defensive coaches. Pellergino side scored the same amount of goals in the 38 matches as puel did.

Southampton 2016/2017 38 games played- 41 total goals scored... Alaves 2016/2017 38 games played- 41 total goals scored.

Those are good stats.didn't realise Puel stats were that good overall.

But as I say worth an interview.8th place in the prem is not to shabby at all.

I think De Boer would play more exciting expansive football.

 

bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 22 Jun 17 8.49am

Originally posted by Den1923

Well said, whatever had happened in the past, we can't change and we now need to move forward and that does include investing in the team especially in defence where we look fragile at times, especially when key players are injured and our cover is that comes in is championship quality at best. lets hope this all coming to a head and that we will have some good news in the next couple of days, it very frustrating for us all but its the future that matters now as we do need to be getting on with our preparation.

There could be nothing whatsoever in these stories of a boardroom split over finances and we may never have had any interest in signing Dyche either side of the Atlantic. But as the stories are out there, and in light of the protracted process, it's perfectly legitimate to comment on them.

You're quite right Den, that there are clear areas where we need to strengthen, which has nothing whatsoever to do with what we've spent in the past. If we want to stay in the loads-of-money league then continuous improvement is needed.

Edited by bexleydave (22 Jun 2017 8.50am)

 


Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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