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 steeleye20  Croydon 15 Jun 17 12.43pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
There is currently peace. Back then there were murders. And deaths on Englush soil. Who are you going to defend today? There is no need for any coalition with the DUP as John Major has pointed out that they can govern ok. In an extreme situation if all the opposition parties ganged up the government could be defeated but its difficult to think of them having common ground and the govt. would know if there was a danger of defeat and should head it off easily. To take any risk at all with the peace process says everything about the way we are governed by reckless and irresponsible tories.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 15 Jun 17 12.45pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
They were Sinn Fein meetings. Sinn Fein is the IRA.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 15 Jun 17 10.05pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
There is no need for any coalition with the DUP as John Major has pointed out that they can govern ok. In an extreme situation if all the opposition parties ganged up the government could be defeated but its difficult to think of them having common ground and the govt. would know if there was a danger of defeat and should head it off easily. To take any risk at all with the peace process says everything about the way we are governed by reckless and irresponsible tories.
1. It's a 'confidence and supply' arrangement, not a coalition. 2. 'All the other parties' together wouldn't total a majority. 3. There may be spending offers that benefit Catholics and Protestants.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 16 Jun 17 10.43am |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Sinn Fein is the IRA. Its the political wing of the Provisional IRA... and the DUP was the political wing of all manner of Loyalist terrorists. Of course the line is blurred. However, the Provisional IRA do not answer to Sinn Fein either, and neither does Sinn Fein answer to the PIRA (and the same applies with the DUP and loyalist paramilitaries). Northern Ireland Politics and the division from Paramilitaries is a blurred subject. I have no problem with people calling Corbyn a terrorist sympathiser, no one should be apologist for the PIRA, provided those same people are happy to say the same of May with the DUP.
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 16 Jun 17 10.46am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Its the political wing of the Provisional IRA... and the DUP was the political wing of all manner of Loyalist terrorists. Of course the line is blurred. However, the Provisional IRA do not answer to Sinn Fein either, and neither does Sinn Fein answer to the PIRA (and the same applies with the DUP and loyalist paramilitaries). Northern Ireland Politics and the division from Paramilitaries is a blurred subject. I have no problem with people calling Corbyn a terrorist sympathiser, no one should be apologist for the PIRA, provided those same people are happy to say the same of May with the DUP. indeedy,,indeedy!
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 16 Jun 17 10.48am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Its the political wing of the Provisional IRA... and the DUP was the political wing of all manner of Loyalist terrorists. Of course the line is blurred. However, the Provisional IRA do not answer to Sinn Fein either, and neither does Sinn Fein answer to the PIRA (and the same applies with the DUP and loyalist paramilitaries). Northern Ireland Politics and the division from Paramilitaries is a blurred subject. I have no problem with people calling Corbyn a terrorist sympathiser, no one should be apologist for the PIRA, provided those same people are happy to say the same of May with the DUP. But its only business if it means poropping up a government after all, only business!
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 16 Jun 17 10.51am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
2. 'All the other parties' together wouldn't total a majority. 3. There may be spending offers that benefit Catholics and Protestants. Somehow this concerns me more. That effectively the Conservative party are buying the DUP's votes in order to push through an agenda that clearly isn't supported by the electorate (having called an election to establish that mandate in the first place). I'm an idealist though, and don't think we should need 'Majority' to form a government, because I expect politicians to work together to represent their constituents interests not their parties - and thrash out a compromise that would fit more than just one groups interest, and another groups fiscal benefits. But there I go again thinking that democracy is a thing, and that politicians could work like everyone else in the f**king world has to; together to get the f**king job done, without having a dick measuring contest and f**king the door knobs.
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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 16 Jun 17 11.30am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Somehow this concerns me more. That effectively the Conservative party are buying the DUP's votes in order to push through an agenda that clearly isn't supported by the electorate (having called an election to establish that mandate in the first place). ..The DUP demands are not just hidden from us but hidden from Sinn Fein by a neutral party within the NI power structure. Teri May is playing fast and loose with the NI agreement.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Jun 17 11.59am |
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Originally posted by Andy_G
The more I see of him the more a like him as a person. His empathy for the people after the fire is impressive and I am definitely warming to him. His spending policies are of course barking but personally he is good I couldn't warn to the 'Comrade' if I was cremated by his side. This is my final post on this thread - lot of utter hogwash written on here by lefties who just have to get over the fact that their beloved Labour were nearly 60 seats behind the Conservatives and we thankfully still have a Conservative PM in 'No 10' and NOT someone who would have destroyed our economy.
Edited by Willo (16 Jun 2017 11.59am)
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| pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 16 Jun 17 12.01pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I couldn't warn to the 'Comrade' if I was cremated by his side. This is my final post on this thread - lot of utter hogwash written on here by lefties who just have to get over the fact that their beloved Labour were nearly 60 seats behind the Conservatives and we thankfully still have a Conservative PM in 'No 10' and NOT someone who would have destroyed our economy.
Edited by Willo (16 Jun 2017 11.59am) You happy with Teri May?
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Kermit8  Hevon 16 Jun 17 12.06pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I couldn't warn to the 'Comrade' if I was cremated by his side. This is my final post on this thread - lot of utter hogwash written on here by lefties who just have to get over the fact that their beloved Labour were nearly 60 seats behind the Conservatives and we thankfully still have a Conservative PM in 'No 10' and NOT someone who would have destroyed our economy.
Edited by Willo (16 Jun 2017 11.59am) If only you and other Tories like you had trusted and stayed loyal to your leader last year and backed him and his Referendum stance the country would not be in this mess and heading for a future which is even messier.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 16 Jun 17 12.14pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I couldn't warn to the 'Comrade' if I was cremated by his side. This is my final post on this thread - lot of utter hogwash written on here by lefties who just have to get over the fact that their beloved Labour were nearly 60 seats behind the Conservatives and we thankfully still have a Conservative PM in 'No 10' and NOT someone who would have destroyed our economy.
Edited by Willo (16 Jun 2017 11.59am) Its snowflake time. Yep, nearly 60 seats behind, from a 'certain landslide' that would wipe Labour from the political map and leave the Conservative in charge for a generation. Its not bad for a man who's own parliamentary party have spent more time trying to get rid of him than the conservatives. And now they've had to get in bed with their own terrorist sympathisers, in order to form a government. Also, if you're in a low skilled, or semi-skilled job, the economy is already f**ked for you. The austerity failures just added to the woes that New Labours embrace of the Free Movement wrought. I seriously think the Conservative might even lose an election if it was held now, against a man who was 'unelectable'.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 16 Jun 17 12.14pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
This is my final post on this thread
Edited by Willo (16 Jun 2017 11.59am) Bet it isn't
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 Hrolf The Ganger 16 Jun 17 12.35pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Its snowflake time. Yep, nearly 60 seats behind, from a 'certain landslide' that would wipe Labour from the political map and leave the Conservative in charge for a generation. Its not bad for a man who's own parliamentary party have spent more time trying to get rid of him than the conservatives. And now they've had to get in bed with their own terrorist sympathisers, in order to form a government. Also, if you're in a low skilled, or semi-skilled job, the economy is already f**ked for you. The austerity failures just added to the woes that New Labours embrace of the Free Movement wrought. I seriously think the Conservative might even lose an election if it was held now, against a man who was 'unelectable'. Do you think Lefties will start waring flares and tank tops again to celebrate a return to the 1970's? 1970's policies with a mix of puritanical liberalism and a pandering to every possible minority at the expense of the the majority. I don't think that is a future I want thanks.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 16 Jun 17 12.39pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Do you think Lefties will start waring flares and tank tops again to celebrate a return to the 1970's? 1970's policies with a mix of puritanical liberalism and a pandering to every possible minority at the expense of the the majority. I don't think that is a future I want thanks. Don't knock it. That's you that is in a few years if your doom-laden apocalyptic vision for the natives of this fair isle comes to pass.
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