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dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 22 Jun 17 8.57am

Originally posted by bexleydave

You have selected part of a discussion, out of context, and gone into a pointless rant.

The discussion related to reports that the US investors are in disagreement with Parish over the choice of manager because they want Dyche and he doesn't. The reason for their choice being that he works on a shoestring budget and they want to rein in spending. There are separate reports that Dyche is unsure about the Palace job due to a proposed lack of transfer budget. I was careful to couch my comments in terms of if either or both of these reports were true.

I have also pointed out that Parish had indicated that transfers were to be Sakho plus one, if Sam had stayed, which equated to around £40m; a decent sum in my view. If the US investors are now wishing to spend less than that, then there is legitimate cause for concern.

Perhaps next time, you should check the whole story before you start hammering away at your keyboard.

Edited by bexleydave (22 Jun 2017 6.32am)

Bexleydave, this is by no means a criticism so please don't take it as such. I just don't have time to check facts so I am relying on you to inform me.

How much of what you say is fact, and how much is your take on it? I mean is there any concrete evidence that the US investors are pulling up the financial drawbridge?

 

Jules111 Flag Preston, Lancashire 22 Jun 17 8.58am

A British prisoner of war has been found alive and well just outside Poland and he had two questions..

1- Is the war over?
2- Has Steve Parish appointed a manager?

 

dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 22 Jun 17 9.04am

Originally posted by Jules111

A British prisoner of war has been found alive and well just outside Poland and he had two questions..

1- Is the war over?
2- Has Steve Parish appointed a manager?

Very good.

Has he just been to the Under 21 Championships? Perhaps he is the man ITK that we heard about 100 pages or so ago.

 

bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 22 Jun 17 9.06am

Originally posted by dp

Bexleydave, this is by no means a criticism so please don't take it as such. I just don't have time to check facts so I am relying on you to inform me.

How much of what you say is fact, and how much is your take on it? I mean is there any concrete evidence that the US investors are pulling up the financial drawbridge?


I've made it quite clear that these are just rumours. You are well aware that, as far as the managerial recruitment process and related matters are concerned, there are no facts. However, that does not preclude comment, provided it's clear one is dealing with rumours, which I have made crystal.

 


Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 22 Jun 17 9.11am

Again not trying to be controversial, but is the lack of transfer budget such a terrible tragedy anyway?

I am not going to become all rose tinted glasses about it, or talk about 2010 etc., but we have a strong first 8 or 9, and a pretty capable back up 5 or 6. We should be able to compete and if we are forced to spend wisely to add to our depth (which is what undermined us last season) then 4 or 5 £8 to £10 million players and a couple of loan signings might be what is required.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 22 Jun 17 9.14am

Originally posted by black eagle.

Those are good stats.didn't realise Puel stats were that good overall.

But as I say worth an interview.8th place in the prem is not to shabby at all.

I think De Boer would play more exciting expansive football.

Which again begs the question why are Southampton going for Pellegrino? I get the feeling we're both going to end up with the wrong man just because someone there wants another Pochettino/Argentinian.

 


COYP

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 22 Jun 17 9.16am

Originally posted by dp

Again not trying to be controversial, but is the lack of transfer budget such a terrible tragedy anyway?

I am not going to become all rose tinted glasses about it, or talk about 2010 etc., but we have a strong first 8 or 9, and a pretty capable back up 5 or 6. We should be able to compete and if we are forced to spend wisely to add to our depth (which is what undermined us last season) then 4 or 5 £8 to £10 million players and a couple of loan signings might be what is required.

That isn't really a lack of funds. I'd go further south than that.

 


COYP

dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 22 Jun 17 9.19am

Originally posted by bexleydave


I've made it quite clear that these are just rumours. You are well aware that, as far as the managerial recruitment process and related matters are concerned, there are no facts. However, that does not preclude comment, provided it's clear one is dealing with rumours, which I have made crystal.

Ok. Thanks. I think you missed my point about it not being a criticism, I just don't have the time to read the last 100 pages to sift the wheat from the chaff. You seem like a sensible bloke who is capable of understanding the difference between conjecture and fact, which was why I directed my question at you.

I wasn't referring to The management process, that seems about as opaque as it could be. Just the comments about transfer budgets and the Americans.

Apologies if I offended you. No offence was intended.

 

bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 22 Jun 17 9.20am

Originally posted by dp

Again not trying to be controversial, but is the lack of transfer budget such a terrible tragedy anyway?

I am not going to become all rose tinted glasses about it, or talk about 2010 etc., but we have a strong first 8 or 9, and a pretty capable back up 5 or 6. We should be able to compete and if we are forced to spend wisely to add to our depth (which is what undermined us last season) then 4 or 5 £8 to £10 million players and a couple of loan signings might be what is required.


I've already said, on more than one occasion, that Parish's "Sakho plus one" equates to around £40m, which would be fine. If this were to be reduced then it's my view that it would cause us problems.

 


Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 22 Jun 17 9.22am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

That isn't really a lack of funds. I'd go further south than that.

Ok. So I will direct my question at you too. How much of this is conjecture and how much is fact? In your opinion.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 22 Jun 17 9.26am

Originally posted by dp

Ok. So I will direct my question at you too. How much of this is conjecture and how much is fact? In your opinion.

I'm not saying what is or isn't or what will or won't happen.

My opinion is £40 - £50mil isn't a lack of a transfer budget. That is decent.

 


COYP

bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 22 Jun 17 9.38am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I'm not saying what is or isn't or what will or won't happen.

My opinion is £40 - £50mil isn't a lack of a transfer budget. That is decent.

It is and I doubt anyone, including a new manager, would complain about that.

 


Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

SeagullHunter Flag Reading 22 Jun 17 9.48am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I'm not saying what is or isn't or what will or won't happen.

My opinion is £40 - £50mil isn't a lack of a transfer budget. That is decent.

I find it hard to believe we have anywhere near that much to spend. What we do have will be bolstered by who we sell, Parish from day one has said the Sakho deal is hard to deal because how much Liverpool want, implying perhaps it would be Sakho and thats it.

Maybe a budget of around £25m is more what we're looking at - which would comfortably be one of the league's lowest. However, incoming managers will se we had a large squad revamp in January, thus my question is, where are these Billionaire American investors?

Edited by SeagullHunter (22 Jun 2017 9.48am)

 


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Dancer Cat Flag Farnborough 22 Jun 17 10.21am

Originally posted by SeagullHunter

I find it hard to believe we have anywhere near that much to spend. What we do have will be bolstered by who we sell, Parish from day one has said the Sakho deal is hard to deal because how much Liverpool want, implying perhaps it would be Sakho and thats it.

Maybe a budget of around £25m is more what we're looking at - which would comfortably be one of the league's lowest. However, incoming managers will se we had a large squad revamp in January, thus my question is, where are these Billionaire American investors?

Edited by SeagullHunter (22 Jun 2017 9.48am)[/quote

Right Word, Wrong Gist

They are investors (want a profitable return)

 

black eagle. Flag south croydon. 22 Jun 17 10.34am

Raniere back in at 9/4 2nd favourite on odds checker.

Did he not just take a job in France?

 

GladAllOver27 Flag 22 Jun 17 10.41am

Originally posted by black eagle.

Raniere back in at 9/4 2nd favourite on odds checker.

Did he not just take a job in France?

Yep, further proof that don't rely on the bookies odds. It's seem as the preferred target is pellergino. If he's not given the job it's between dyche or de Boer

 

black eagle. Flag south croydon. 22 Jun 17 11.02am

Originally posted by GladAllOver27

Yep, further proof that don't rely on the bookies odds. It's seem as the preferred target is pellergino. If he's not given the job it's between dyche or de Boer

Yeah I agree.think we waiting for Southampton to appoint their manager.

Wish they would hurry the f**k up.

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 22 Jun 17 11.13am

Originally posted by black eagle.


Yeah I agree.think we waiting for Southampton to appoint their manager.

If that is the case doesn't it go against SP's intentions to appoint someone who is committed to helping us grow and not someone who sees us as a stepping stone to a better club.

Surely if we take on someone because he didn't get the Southampton job then he's just as likely to be off again when a club with a higher standing gives him the come on

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 22 Jun 17 11.15am

Incidentally there doesn't seem to be much chatter in the media (according to News Now) about Southampton's new manager which I find rather odd

 

Den1923 Flag 22 Jun 17 11.17am

Originally posted by Dancer Cat

Originally posted by SeagullHunter

I find it hard to believe we have anywhere near that much to spend. What we do have will be bolstered by who we sell, Parish from day one has said the Sakho deal is hard to deal because how much Liverpool want, implying perhaps it would be Sakho and thats it.

Maybe a budget of around £25m is more what we're looking at - which would comfortably be one of the league's lowest. However, incoming managers will se we had a large squad revamp in January, thus my question is, where are these Billionaire American investors?

Edited by SeagullHunter (22 Jun 2017 9.48am)[/quote

Right Word, Wrong Gist

They are investors (want a profitable return)



of course they want a return and to get that they have to invest as the money tree will not be in the championship!

 

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