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Hrolf The Ganger 16 Jun 17 12.50pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Don't knock it. That's you that is in a few years if your doom-laden apocalyptic vision for the natives of this fair isle comes to pass. Me?

Hrolf The Ganger

16 Jun 17 12.50pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Don't knock it. That's you that is in a few years if your doom-laden apocalyptic vision for the natives of this fair isle comes to pass.

Me?

Kermit8 Hevon 16 Jun 17 1.28pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Me? You'll get it in a while. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 16 Jun 17 1.28pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Me?

You'll get it in a while.

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]

Hrolf The Ganger 16 Jun 17 4.05pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 You'll get it in a while. You can't expect me to fathom the musings of your twisted lefty mind.

Hrolf The Ganger

16 Jun 17 4.05pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

You'll get it in a while.

You can't expect me to fathom the musings of your twisted lefty mind.

croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 17 Jun 17 5.22am
Originally posted by pefwin The Tories are in total panic mode. They need to do something before the first vote of no confidence. Their best and last hope is to last to the summer recess (20/07). Yeah, they are slowly destroying the country, i couldnt have imagined how useless they are, its like watching your favourite comedy film and multiply by ten, will be great viewing till the new season begins, was starting to get worried what to do with the long days but this stuf is priceless, thank you theresa!

croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 17 Jun 17 5.22am

Originally posted by pefwin

The Tories are in total panic mode.

They need to do something before the first vote of no confidence.

Their best and last hope is to last to the summer recess (20/07).

Yeah, they are slowly destroying the country, i couldnt have imagined how useless they are, its like watching your favourite comedy film and multiply by ten, will be great viewing till the new season begins, was starting to get worried what to do with the long days but this stuf is priceless, thank you theresa!

Kermit8 Hevon 17 Jun 17 11.33am
Corbyn's got a gig on the Pyramid Stage next week. Gotta be better than Jay Z's and The Stones appearances. Let's rock! [Link] Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 17 Jun 17 11.33am

Corbyn's got a gig on the Pyramid Stage next week. Gotta be better than Jay Z's and The Stones appearances. Let's rock!

[Link]

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]

croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 17 Jun 17 11.37am
Originally posted by Kermit8 Corbyn's got a gig on the Pyramid Stage next week. Gotta be better than Jay Z's and The Stones appearances. Let's rock! The tories wont like that one bit!

Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 17 Jun 17 3.01pm
Looks like we can add "child abuse enabler" to the (already) long list of the horrors of this man. A stinging indictment, from one of his own. [Link] Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 17 Jun 17 3.01pm

Looks like we can add "child abuse enabler" to the (already) long list of the horrors of this man.

A stinging indictment, from one of his own.

[Link]

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Jun 17 3.17pm
Originally posted by croydon proud Yeah, they are slowly destroying the country, i couldnt have imagined how useless they are, its like watching your favourite comedy film and multiply by ten, will be great viewing till the new season begins, was starting to get worried what to do with the long days but this stuf is priceless, thank you theresa! A total of nearly 3 Mill more jobs since 2010. More people in work than ever before. Lowest unemployment since 1975. Tories "Destroying the country" ? What hysterical rhetoric with NO foundation whatsoever. Edited by Willo (17 Jun 2017 3.20pm)

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Jun 17 3.17pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

Yeah, they are slowly destroying the country, i couldnt have imagined how useless they are, its like watching your favourite comedy film and multiply by ten, will be great viewing till the new season begins, was starting to get worried what to do with the long days but this stuf is priceless, thank you theresa!

A total of nearly 3 Mill more jobs since 2010.
More people in work than ever before.
Lowest unemployment since 1975.

Tories "Destroying the country" ? What hysterical rhetoric with NO foundation whatsoever.

Edited by Willo (17 Jun 2017 3.20pm)

Stirlingsays 17 Jun 17 3.58pm
Originally posted by Willo A total of nearly 3 Mill more jobs since 2010. More people in work than ever before. Lowest unemployment since 1975. Tories "Destroying the country" ? What hysterical rhetoric with NO foundation whatsoever. Edited by Willo (17 Jun 2017 3.20pm) Yeah but come on Wilo. Nick 'destroying the country' is pure nonsense but 'nothing to see here, it's fine' isn't the best way to deal with it. A lot of those jobs people can't pay the rent on and definitely can't raise a family with. That is a problem....regardless of what type of government is in power. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

17 Jun 17 3.58pm

Originally posted by Willo

A total of nearly 3 Mill more jobs since 2010.
More people in work than ever before.
Lowest unemployment since 1975.

Tories "Destroying the country" ? What hysterical rhetoric with NO foundation whatsoever.

Edited by Willo (17 Jun 2017 3.20pm)

Yeah but come on Wilo.

Nick 'destroying the country' is pure nonsense but 'nothing to see here, it's fine' isn't the best way to deal with it.

A lot of those jobs people can't pay the rent on and definitely can't raise a family with.

That is a problem....regardless of what type of government is in power.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 17 Jun 17 4.04pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt Looks like we can add "child abuse enabler" to the (already) long list of the horrors of this man. A stinging indictment, from one of his own. [Link] Funny how Nick isn't engaged about this one. Very pick and choose isn't it....zero balance. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

17 Jun 17 4.04pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Looks like we can add "child abuse enabler" to the (already) long list of the horrors of this man.

A stinging indictment, from one of his own.

[Link]

Funny how Nick isn't engaged about this one.

Very pick and choose isn't it....zero balance.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Jun 17 4.06pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Yeah but come on Wilo. Nick 'destroying the country' is pure nonsense but 'nothing to see here, it's fine' isn't the best way to deal with it. A lot of those jobs people can't pay the rent on and definitely can't raise a family with. That is a problem....regardless of what type of government is in power. Labour make a great deal about "Zero hours" jobs as if they make up a great deal of the employment figures.In fact less than 3% of the jobs are "Zero Hours" and let's not forget there are many who choose to work under such contracts.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Jun 17 4.06pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yeah but come on Wilo.

Nick 'destroying the country' is pure nonsense but 'nothing to see here, it's fine' isn't the best way to deal with it.

A lot of those jobs people can't pay the rent on and definitely can't raise a family with.

That is a problem....regardless of what type of government is in power.

Labour make a great deal about "Zero hours" jobs as if they make up a great deal of the employment figures.In fact less than 3% of the jobs are "Zero Hours" and let's not forget there are many who choose to work under such contracts.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Jun 17 4.07pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Funny how Nick isn't engaged about this one. Very pick and choose isn't it....zero balance. Doesn't want this to turn into yet another tedious left-wing GUSSET thread !

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Jun 17 4.07pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Funny how Nick isn't engaged about this one.

Very pick and choose isn't it....zero balance.

Doesn't want this to turn into yet another tedious left-wing GUSSET thread !

Stirlingsays 17 Jun 17 4.10pm
Originally posted by Willo Labour make a great deal about "Zero hours" jobs as if they make up a great deal of the employment figures.In fact less than 3% of the jobs are "Zero Hours" and let's not forget there are many who choose to work under such contracts. There is some truth to that but many...well I'd say most actually don't want zero hours contracts but have to because the industry demands it. I was one of them for a time. Not recognising these realities doesn't really help the Tory brand in terms of being even handed. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

17 Jun 17 4.10pm

Originally posted by Willo

There is some truth to that but many...well I'd say most actually don't want zero hours contracts but have to because the industry demands it. I was one of them for a time.

Not recognising these realities doesn't really help the Tory brand in terms of being even handed.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 17 Jun 17 4.11pm
If John Mann were the Labour leader perhaps they would be in power now. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

17 Jun 17 4.11pm

If John Mann were the Labour leader perhaps they would be in power now.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Jun 17 4.31pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays There is some truth to that but many...well I'd say most actually don't want zero hours contracts but have to because the industry demands it. I was one of them for a time. Not recognising these realities doesn't really help the Tory brand in terms of being even handed. I know people and they know people who are happy to be a 'Casual' as this gives them flexibility. "Zero hours contract" is not a legal defintion but applies where an employment cannot guarantee any hours however in many cases employees in this category ARE offered hours.In actual fact some 68% on these 'Contracts' did not want any extra hours.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Jun 17 4.31pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There is some truth to that but many...well I'd say most actually don't want zero hours contracts but have to because the industry demands it. I was one of them for a time.

Not recognising these realities doesn't really help the Tory brand in terms of being even handed.

I know people and they know people who are happy to be a 'Casual' as this gives them flexibility.

"Zero hours contract" is not a legal defintion but applies where an employment cannot guarantee any hours however in many cases employees in this category ARE offered hours.In actual fact some 68% on these 'Contracts' did not want any extra hours.

Stirlingsays 17 Jun 17 5.06pm
Originally posted by Willo I know people and they know people who are happy to be a 'Casual' as this gives them flexibility. "Zero hours contract" is not a legal defintion but applies where an employment cannot guarantee any hours however in many cases employees in this category ARE offered hours.In actual fact some 68% on these 'Contracts' did not want any extra hours. Well I've worked in an industry where zero hours was your only choice and I have to say I don't agree with the one eyed nature of how you portray it. Some are fine with it in some industries because it fits their schedule...students for example...many though have little choice. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Jun 2017 5.08pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

17 Jun 17 5.06pm

Originally posted by Willo

I know people and they know people who are happy to be a 'Casual' as this gives them flexibility.

Well I've worked in an industry where zero hours was your only choice and I have to say I don't agree with the one eyed nature of how you portray it.

Some are fine with it in some industries because it fits their schedule...students for example...many though have little choice.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Jun 2017 5.08pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

NickinOX Sailing country. 17 Jun 17 5.19pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Well I've worked in an industry where zero hours was your only choice and I have to say I don't agree with the one eyed nature of how you portray it. Some are fine with it in some industries because it fits their schedule...students for example...many though have little choice. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Jun 2017 5.08pm) I've been on both sides of the fence on this. It's great for some people, and crap for others. I liked the flexibility, as it meant I could turn down work easily without being obliged to show up because of some contractural obligation. However, there were times when I wanted more hours and they were not available. As an employer it was really helpful for the business to adjust work patterns to how busy we were, which meant we could actually keep more people than we would normally need. For example, for big events we would have as many as sixty people working, and we normally had about a dozen regulars. Had we had fixed contracts we could not have afforded to risk keeping more than 2-3 on payroll. For those who needed the income to live, it could be tough because I could not guarantee consistent hours. Mind you, for all my good workers I almost always could find them something to do if they were willing to be flexible in terms of the job. If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

NickinOX

Sailing country. 17 Jun 17 5.19pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well I've worked in an industry where zero hours was your only choice and I have to say I don't agree with the one eyed nature of how you portray it.

Some are fine with it in some industries because it fits their schedule...students for example...many though have little choice.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Jun 2017 5.08pm)

I've been on both sides of the fence on this. It's great for some people, and crap for others. I liked the flexibility, as it meant I could turn down work easily without being obliged to show up because of some contractural obligation. However, there were times when I wanted more hours and they were not available.

As an employer it was really helpful for the business to adjust work patterns to how busy we were, which meant we could actually keep more people than we would normally need. For example, for big events we would have as many as sixty people working, and we normally had about a dozen regulars. Had we had fixed contracts we could not have afforded to risk keeping more than 2-3 on payroll.

For those who needed the income to live, it could be tough because I could not guarantee consistent hours. Mind you, for all my good workers I almost always could find them something to do if they were willing to be flexible in terms of the job.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Jun 17 5.22pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Well I've worked in an industry where zero hours was your only choice and I have to say I don't agree with the one eyed nature of how you portray it. Some are fine with it in some industries because it fits their schedule...students for example...many though have little choice. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Jun 2017 5.08pm) Stirling I am mindful of 'Both sides of the coin'. Just resentful of the way these are portrayed by Labour almost as if it is prevalent when it is not when less than 3% of the workforce work under these contractual arrangements.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Jun 17 5.22pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well I've worked in an industry where zero hours was your only choice and I have to say I don't agree with the one eyed nature of how you portray it.

Some are fine with it in some industries because it fits their schedule...students for example...many though have little choice.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Jun 2017 5.08pm)

Stirling

I am mindful of 'Both sides of the coin'.

Just resentful of the way these are portrayed by Labour almost as if it is prevalent when it is not when less than 3% of the workforce work under these contractual arrangements.

pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 17 Jun 17 5.56pm
is a zero hour contract, better than no contract? "Everything is air-droppable at least once." "When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

pefwin

Where you have to have an English ... 17 Jun 17 5.56pm

is a zero hour contract, better than no contract?

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

jamiemartin721 Reading 17 Jun 17 9.04pm
Originally posted by Willo A total of nearly 3 Mill more jobs since 2010. More people in work than ever before. Lowest unemployment since 1975. Tories "Destroying the country" ? What hysterical rhetoric with NO foundation whatsoever. Edited by Willo (17 Jun 2017 3.20pm) Depends on how well those jobs pay. New labour created a lot of jobs. Its just they were low paid service McJobs. Its no good for society to have people stuck in dead end jobs with subsistence wages and next to no prospects. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]

jamiemartin721

Reading 17 Jun 17 9.04pm

Originally posted by Willo

A total of nearly 3 Mill more jobs since 2010.
More people in work than ever before.
Lowest unemployment since 1975.

Tories "Destroying the country" ? What hysterical rhetoric with NO foundation whatsoever.

Edited by Willo (17 Jun 2017 3.20pm)

Depends on how well those jobs pay. New labour created a lot of jobs. Its just they were low paid service McJobs. Its no good for society to have people stuck in dead end jobs with subsistence wages and next to no prospects.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

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