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 YT  Oxford 04 Oct 19 8.41pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
None. I was out of the country for the months prior. What has that to do with anything? You come across as very passionate about the topic three and a half years later, so it's a shame you didn't have the chance to put that passion to good use at the time.
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| martin2412 Living The Dream 04 Oct 19 8.46pm |
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Originally posted by martin2412
Originally posted by steeleye20
It would have been helpful if leave had considered what was deliverable or not 3 years ago. _______________________________________________________ REMAIN CALLED THE REFERENDUM. Leave obviously stood against them without much time to consider what might happen in 3 years time. In fact, nobody could have known how obstructive Labour and the EU would be.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 19 10.26pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Just that by your criteria were he to be elected then everyone should apparently stop criticising him and just accept that he was acting in good faith. That’s quite unlikely. That is nothing like my "criteria"! People criticise MPs all the time, including me. It has nothing to do with their responsibility to use their conscience to determine how they vote in Parliament.
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Teddy Eagle  04 Oct 19 10.30pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That is nothing like my "criteria"! People criticise MPs all the time, including me. It has nothing to do with their responsibility to use their conscience to determine how they vote in Parliament. Yes I know. But I said IF Robinson was elected and voted according to his conscience how would that be any different to what he does now?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 19 10.40pm |
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Originally posted by YT
You come across as very passionate about the topic three and a half years later, so it's a shame you didn't have the chance to put that passion to good use at the time. I was following the campaigns and commenting in various forums but as I wasn't here I couldn't actively campaign. I am not so sure I would have done back then either as what happened during the leave campaign have only become clear with hindsight. I am though now determined to ensure that we don't repeat the same mistakes. We cannot go back but we can go forward.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 19 10.58pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
No. That’s a cop out. If I punch someone in the face then explain I thought he’d look better with new teeth he’s got the right to be unhappy about it even though I might have been acting iwith genuine concern. If you punched someone in the face then you would have broken the law and any justification, however good or nonsensical, is irrelevant. MPs are just doing the job we pay them to do. You can be as unhappy as you like but as they hold the responsibility you just need to accept it.
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| Teddy Eagle 04 Oct 19 11.01pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
If you punched someone in the face then you would have broken the law and any justification, however good or nonsensical, is irrelevant. MPs are just doing the job we pay them to do. You can be as unhappy as you like but as they hold the responsibility you just need to accept it. It was a metaphor.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 19 11.09pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Yes I know. But I said IF Robinson was elected and voted according to his conscience how would that be any different to what he does now? Him making his case and voting according to his conscience in Parliament would be his obligation. That though is entirely different to what he has done in the past (he doesn't appear to actually doing very much right now). Making videos outside of Courts, making rabble rousing speeches at "rallies", publishing contentious online content and encouraging a social media following is far removed from the job of an MP.
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| Teddy Eagle 04 Oct 19 11.17pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Him making his case and voting according to his conscience in Parliament would be his obligation. That though is entirely different to what he has done in the past (he doesn't appear to actually doing very much right now). Making videos outside of Courts, making rabble rousing speeches at "rallies", publishing contentious online content and encouraging a social media following is far removed from the job of an MP. Videos excepted it sounds like exactly what a lot of MPs do.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 19 11.30pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Videos excepted it sounds like exactly what a lot of MPs do. What any MP does outside of their responsibilities in Parliament is their own business. It's nothing to do with their job. If they broke the law then they too could end up in jail. I think you are trying to conflate chalk and cheese.
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| Teddy Eagle 04 Oct 19 11.50pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
What any MP does outside of their responsibilities in Parliament is their own business. It's nothing to do with their job. If they broke the law then they too could end up in jail. I think you are trying to conflate chalk and cheese. I think you are taking things too seriously.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Oct 19 12.00am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
I think you are taking things too seriously. I am just answering the points. What I think I will keep to myself.
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