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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Nice shirt...it has to be said. It's not one of those light brown shades your gran's sheets used to be is it?
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My take on Marx, loved A night at the Opera
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Originally posted by simlaboy
My take on Marx, loved A night at the Opera
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Marxism v Capitalism. Take two examples: Germany and Korea were both divided into a marxist and a capitalist half. As time went by, the differences in the economic conditions of the poor in both countries became stark. On the marxist side of Korea there has been mass starvation, the capitalist side prospered. On the marxist side of Germany, the average wage was lower than unemployment benefit on the capitalist side, the capitalist side prospered and a wall was built to stop people escaping from the marxist side. After the world's two most populous countries, China and India, permitted more capitalism in their countries, their economic performance suddenly surged. In every single country that has tried marxism, political oppression has taken place. People have been killed and imprisoned without trial. In the Soviet Union, China and Cambodia, millions died in the marxist holocaust. Political oppression has occurred in every single marxist country. [some of this paraphrased from an article in the Spectator]
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Corbyn and McDonnell are both marxists, McDonnell had an article in teh Morning Star the other day, and their campaign manager was a member of the communist party until December of last year.
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Corbyn and McDonnell are both marxists, McDonnell had an article in teh Morning Star the other day, and their campaign manager was a member of the communist party until December of last year. Oh no! Run, run, the Marxists are coming!!!
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Originally posted by leifandersonshair
Oh no! Run, run, the Marxists are coming!!! There was a great clothes stall in Kensington Market called Marx & Stalin back in the 80's
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Originally posted by simlaboy
My take on Marx, loved A night at the Opera
Jean-Luc Godard Edited by NickinOX (24 Jun 2017 11.03pm)
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Originally posted by Jamesey
Corbyn at Glastonbury...preaching to the converted as ever...young, naive people who see him as an elder sage cum messiah. Fair play to him and whoever are his advisers - they seized the opportunity to plonk him at a youthful assembly which will give massive press coverage May, wrong-footed as ever, was paying homage to the military...worthy in my view but boring and fusty to his increasing youthful support. The PM looks increasingly lost and inept at every turn of the way...if Conservatives are to ever recover from disaster after disaster, she must be overturned. Does anyone attend a festival wanting to witness a party political broadcast?
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Originally posted by Harry Beever
Does anyone attend a festival wanting to witness a party political broadcast? No but he was invited to speak by the bearded millionaire farmer who presumably shares his views.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Who knows what the future will bring. Another financial crash could well see pressure for an alternative to a failed capitalist system. In the event of financial disaster the people would want to rescue their free health care, education income support etc. which socialism has brought. Our capitalism is simply exploitation by the very few of the many it has never brought any benefit to society only chronic debt for the many to pay for in an imaginary future. If we have a crash that is comparable to 2008 it is highly likely that the capitalistic institutions will be at threat. That part of your post is half way sensible....however you then went and spoilt it by stating that capitalism hasn't brought any benefits.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Who knows what the future will bring. Another financial crash could well see pressure for an alternative to a failed capitalist system. In the event of financial disaster the people would want to rescue their free health care, education income support etc. which socialism has brought. Our capitalism is simply exploitation by the very few of the many it has never brought any benefit to society only chronic debt for the many to pay for in an imaginary future. We know damn well what the future would have been if Corbyn and his comrades had been elected into power. Now go back to reading the 'Socialist Worker' etc etc. And don't get me started on all the errant lies and 'Fake news' that went 'Viral' by the 'Placard' brigade.
By the way, Labour polled some 1 Mill less votes than the Conservatives and were nearly 60 seats back from those attained by my party. Edited by Willo (24 Jun 2017 11.38pm)
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Originally posted by Willo
We know damn well what the future would have been if Corbyn and his comrades had been elected into power. Now go back to reading the 'Socialist Worker' etc etc. And don't get me started on all the errant lies and 'Fake news' that went 'Viral' by the 'Placard' brigade.
Edited by Willo (24 Jun 2017 11.36pm) Cogent argument as always. Is the substance in the style?
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Cogent argument as always. Is the substance in the style? Very much substance in what I know about I can assure you. Would elaborate but I am off to bed. Goodnight. Edited by Willo (24 Jun 2017 11.49pm)
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Corbyn at Glasto with the usual misfits (not the band) & trade unionists.....-.-'
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Originally posted by Jimenez
As some wag on Twi**er has just said 'Corbyn turn's up at Glastonbury to talk about austerity, to people have just paid 300 quid to watch Katy Perry' How even acknowledging Corbyn's rise must stick in your craw. It's hilarious. I've had a quick read of this thread, the EU one and the UKIP one. Quite interesting to see recent history through the witterings of us lot. (Will any of them make gold talk?) Interesting to see some wildly innacurate predictions and assertations too.
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