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Jamesey Flag Wandsworth 24 Jun 17 9.39pm

Corbyn at Glastonbury...preaching to the converted as ever...young, naive people who see him as an elder sage cum messiah.

Fair play to him and whoever are his advisers - they seized the opportunity to plonk him at a youthful assembly which will give massive press coverage
and they all hooted and cheered at "free beer tomorrow , "soak the rich" and all the usual nonsense.

May, wrong-footed as ever, was paying homage to the military...worthy in my view but boring and fusty to his increasing youthful support. The PM looks increasingly lost and inept at every turn of the way...if Conservatives are to ever recover from disaster after disaster, she must be overturned.


 


Nothing is fool-proof - fools are too ingenious

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 24 Jun 17 9.40pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Nice shirt...it has to be said.

It's not one of those light brown shades your gran's sheets used to be is it?

 


COYP

simlaboy Flag coulsdon 24 Jun 17 9.47pm

My take on Marx, loved A night at the Opera

 

elgrande Flag bedford 24 Jun 17 10.40pm

Originally posted by simlaboy

My take on Marx, loved A night at the Opera

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 24 Jun 17 10.44pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Marxism v Capitalism. Take two examples: Germany and Korea were both divided into a marxist and a capitalist half. As time went by, the differences in the economic conditions of the poor in both countries became stark. On the marxist side of Korea there has been mass starvation, the capitalist side prospered. On the marxist side of Germany, the average wage was lower than unemployment benefit on the capitalist side, the capitalist side prospered and a wall was built to stop people escaping from the marxist side. After the world's two most populous countries, China and India, permitted more capitalism in their countries, their economic performance suddenly surged. In every single country that has tried marxism, political oppression has taken place. People have been killed and imprisoned without trial. In the Soviet Union, China and Cambodia, millions died in the marxist holocaust. Political oppression has occurred in every single marxist country. [some of this paraphrased from an article in the Spectator]


Well it's lucky for us that Labour's manifesto was a slightly left of centre social Democratic one not really Marxist at all if the truth be told.


 

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 24 Jun 17 10.46pm

Originally posted by nickgusset


Well it's lucky for us that Labour's manifesto was a slightly left of centre social Democratic one not really Marxist at all if the truth be told.


Corbyn and McDonnell are both marxists, McDonnell had an article in teh Morning Star the other day, and their campaign manager was a member of the communist party until December of last year.

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

leifandersonshair Flag Newport 24 Jun 17 10.51pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Corbyn and McDonnell are both marxists, McDonnell had an article in teh Morning Star the other day, and their campaign manager was a member of the communist party until December of last year.

Oh no! Run, run, the Marxists are coming!!!

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 24 Jun 17 10.59pm

Originally posted by leifandersonshair

Oh no! Run, run, the Marxists are coming!!!

There was a great clothes stall in Kensington Market called Marx & Stalin back in the 80's

 

NickinOX Flag Sailing country. 24 Jun 17 11.01pm

Originally posted by simlaboy

My take on Marx, loved A night at the Opera


Je suis Marxiste, tendance Groucho.

Jean-Luc Godard

Edited by NickinOX (24 Jun 2017 11.03pm)

 


If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 24 Jun 17 11.15pm

Who knows what the future will bring.

Another financial crash could well see pressure for an alternative to a failed capitalist system.

In the event of financial disaster the people would want to rescue their free health care, education income support etc. which socialism has brought.

Our capitalism is simply exploitation by the very few of the many it has never brought any benefit to society only chronic debt for the many to pay for in an imaginary future.


 

Harry Beever Flag Newbury 24 Jun 17 11.21pm

Originally posted by Jamesey

Corbyn at Glastonbury...preaching to the converted as ever...young, naive people who see him as an elder sage cum messiah.

Fair play to him and whoever are his advisers - they seized the opportunity to plonk him at a youthful assembly which will give massive press coverage
and they all hooted and cheered at "free beer tomorrow , "soak the rich" and all the usual nonsense.

May, wrong-footed as ever, was paying homage to the military...worthy in my view but boring and fusty to his increasing youthful support. The PM looks increasingly lost and inept at every turn of the way...if Conservatives are to ever recover from disaster after disaster, she must be overturned.


Does anyone attend a festival wanting to witness a party political broadcast?

 

Jamesey Flag Wandsworth 24 Jun 17 11.24pm

Originally posted by Harry Beever

Does anyone attend a festival wanting to witness a party political broadcast?

No but he was invited to speak by the bearded millionaire farmer who presumably shares his views.

 


Nothing is fool-proof - fools are too ingenious

Stirlingsays Flag 24 Jun 17 11.31pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Who knows what the future will bring.

Another financial crash could well see pressure for an alternative to a failed capitalist system.

In the event of financial disaster the people would want to rescue their free health care, education income support etc. which socialism has brought.

Our capitalism is simply exploitation by the very few of the many it has never brought any benefit to society only chronic debt for the many to pay for in an imaginary future.

If we have a crash that is comparable to 2008 it is highly likely that the capitalistic institutions will be at threat.

That part of your post is half way sensible....however you then went and spoilt it by stating that capitalism hasn't brought any benefits.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Jun 17 11.35pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Who knows what the future will bring.

Another financial crash could well see pressure for an alternative to a failed capitalist system.

In the event of financial disaster the people would want to rescue their free health care, education income support etc. which socialism has brought.

Our capitalism is simply exploitation by the very few of the many it has never brought any benefit to society only chronic debt for the many to pay for in an imaginary future.

We know damn well what the future would have been if Corbyn and his comrades had been elected into power.

Now go back to reading the 'Socialist Worker' etc etc.

And don't get me started on all the errant lies and 'Fake news' that went 'Viral' by the 'Placard' brigade.
Disgusting.


By the way, Labour polled some 1 Mill less votes than the Conservatives and were nearly 60 seats back from those attained by my party.

Edited by Willo (24 Jun 2017 11.38pm)

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 24 Jun 17 11.37pm

Originally posted by Willo

We know damn well what the future would have been if Corbyn and his comrades had been elected into power.

Now go back to reading the 'Socialist Worker' etc etc.

And don't get me started on all the errant lies and 'Fake news' that went 'Viral' by the 'Placard' brigade.
Disgusting.

Edited by Willo (24 Jun 2017 11.36pm)

Cogent argument as always. Is the substance in the style?

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Jun 17 11.46pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Cogent argument as always. Is the substance in the style?

Very much substance in what I know about I can assure you.
Any counter 'Argument' would be futile and certainly far from 'Cogent' as it would only discredit those who seek to differ with the facts.

Would elaborate but I am off to bed.
Trust me, I have all the details.

Goodnight.

Edited by Willo (24 Jun 2017 11.49pm)

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 25 Jun 17 12.00am

All this debt nearly 2 trillions left by the tories for future generations to pay if its even possible.

Only one thing to say to Willo and his tory mates.

'How would you like to pay?'

 

Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 25 Jun 17 12.21am

Corbyn at Glasto with the usual misfits (not the band) & trade unionists.....-.-'

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Pro USA & Israel

Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 25 Jun 17 12.36am

As some wag on Twi**er has just said 'Corbyn turn's up at Glastonbury to talk about austerity, to people have just paid 300 quid to watch Katy Perry'

 


Pro USA & Israel

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Jun 17 1.22am

Originally posted by Jimenez

As some wag on Twi**er has just said 'Corbyn turn's up at Glastonbury to talk about austerity, to people have just paid 300 quid to watch Katy Perry'

How even acknowledging Corbyn's rise must stick in your craw. It's hilarious.

I've had a quick read of this thread, the EU one and the UKIP one. Quite interesting to see recent history through the witterings of us lot. (Will any of them make gold talk?)

Interesting to see some wildly innacurate predictions and assertations too.

 

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