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 Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 25 Jun 17 1.27am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
How even acknowledging Corbyn's rise must stick in your craw. It's hilarious. I've had a quick read of this thread, the EU one and the UKIP one. Quite interesting to see recent history through the witterings of us lot. (Will any of them make gold talk?) Interesting to see some wildly innacurate predictions and assertations too. I wouldn't say its acknowledging him at all. As for having a quick read of the UKIP, EU & Corbyn thread. You obviously have too much time on your hands maybe finish off fixing your taps in the kitchen?
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Alex1991  Ashford 25 Jun 17 4.22am |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
As some wag on Twi**er has just said 'Corbyn turn's up at Glastonbury to talk about austerity, to people have just paid 300 quid to watch Katy Perry' Excellent lyric
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 25 Jun 17 7.33am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Who knows what the future will bring. Another financial crash could well see pressure for an alternative to a failed capitalist system. In the event of financial disaster the people would want to rescue their free health care, education income support etc. which socialism has brought. The conservative manifesto in 1945 had very similar national insurance proposals and almost identical NHS proposals.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Jun 17 8.11am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
All this debt nearly 2 trillions left by the tories for future generations to pay if its even possible. Only one thing to say to Willo and his tory mates. 'How would you like to pay?' Just had to laugh. Supporters of Corbyn - the chap who in his pursuit of "La-la-land" and fantasy economics promised to spend much MORE than is spent at present.
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| Harry Beever Newbury 25 Jun 17 8.13am |
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Originally posted by Jamesey
No but he was invited to speak by the bearded millionaire farmer who presumably shares his views. Having paid £300 for a ticket or whatever it is, if your not a Corbyn fan should you have to listen to Eavis's views? It's not a Labour Party conference. In the interest of balance maybe he should have invited Sturgeon, May, Nuttal, Lucas, someone from the lib dems etc. I'd be pissed off having paid that money to have to see someone I didn't vote for given such a massive platform and be forced to listen to them. At least you can turn off question time if they're annoying you!
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Jun 17 8.28am |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
As some wag on Twi**er has just said 'Corbyn turn's up at Glastonbury to talk about austerity, to people have just paid 300 quid to watch Katy Perry' It is a myth perpetuated by Labour, SNP etc etc that the nation's finances have been cut to the bone - this is total and utter hogwash.As an example just consider the NHS where spending in real terms is higher than it has ever been before. In actual fact, Sir Nicholas Macpherson who was Permanent Secretary at the treasury from 2005 to 2016 said "Britain never experienced austerity" and this from a man who was in charge of our most important financial institution for 11 years. Anyway, time to get off my 'Soapbox' now and concentrate on the football debates.Don't want to bring on hypertension. Edited by Willo (25 Jun 2017 8.30am)
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| Spiderman Horsham 25 Jun 17 8.42am |
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Originally posted by Willo
It is a myth perpetuated by Labour, SNP etc etc that the nation's finances have been cut to the bone - this is total and utter hogwash.As an example just consider the NHS where spending in real terms is higher than it has ever been before. In actual fact, Sir Nicholas Macpherson who was Permanent Secretary at the treasury from 2005 to 2016 said "Britain never experienced austerity" and this from a man who was in charge of our most important financial institution for 11 years. Anyway, time to get off my 'Soapbox' now and concentrate on the football debates.Don't want to bring on hypertension. Edited by Willo (25 Jun 2017 8.30am) Didn't stop k***head Osborne wreaking havoc on the public sector whilst allowing his banking/business pals to have a merry old time.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Jun 17 8.48am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Didn't stop k***head Osborne wreaking havoc on the public sector whilst allowing his banking/business pals to have a merry old time. Im sure Sir Nicholas Macpherson knows far more about what went on than you or I. The fact is that Osborne never actually made the cuts that he promised or anticipated.At the end of the day the 'Left' are bellowing out for an end to cuts that never went as far as was expected or delivered. Edited by Willo (25 Jun 2017 8.51am)
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| Spiderman Horsham 25 Jun 17 9.29am |
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Originally posted by Willo
Im sure Sir Nicholas Macpherson knows far more about what went on than you or I. The fact is that Osborne never actually made the cuts that he promised or anticipated.At the end of the day the 'Left' are bellowing out for an end to cuts that never went as far as was expected or delivered. Edited by Willo (25 Jun 2017 8.51am) Willo I am not one to debate politics and I am not a "leftie" however having recently retired from being in the public sector for 43 years, believe me GO wielded the axe big time. For the last 6 years my pay did not increase and in real terms decreased, the Dept I worked for, which you would think, should have been safeguarded was decimated by staff reductions and staff resigning due to poor working conditions. I am sure MacPherson knows more than me but it is a shame his ilk do not talk to staff to find out the truth. Rant over back to the football
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Jun 17 9.55am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Willo I am not one to debate politics and I am not a "leftie" however having recently retired from being in the public sector for 43 years, believe me GO wielded the axe big time. For the last 6 years my pay did not increase and in real terms decreased, the Dept I worked for, which you would think, should have been safeguarded was decimated by staff reductions and staff resigning due to poor working conditions. I am sure MacPherson knows more than me but it is a shame his ilk do not talk to staff to find out the truth. Rant over back to the football Sir Nicholas Macpherson has not advocated that there were no "Cuts" but pointed to gross public debt as a proportion of national income and concluded "Britain never experienced austerity". He actually noted that we differ from other nations such as Ireland which reduced it's debt from 86% to 75% of national income over the same period and that Spain was another nation that really did reduce it's spending. Yes me too off my "Soapbox" now and will concentrate on the football threads !
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 25 Jun 17 11.22am |
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Originally posted by Harry Beever
Having paid £300 for a ticket or whatever it is, if your not a Corbyn fan should you have to listen to Eavis's views? It's not a Labour Party conference. In the interest of balance maybe he should have invited Sturgeon, May, Nuttal, Lucas, someone from the lib dems etc. I'd be pissed off having paid that money to have to see someone I didn't vote for given such a massive platform and be forced to listen to them. At least you can turn off question time if they're annoying you!
In all seriousness, it wouldve been comedy gold seeing her on the pyramid stage.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 25 Jun 17 11.32am |
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Originally posted by Willo
Sir Nicholas Macpherson has not advocated that there were no "Cuts" but pointed to gross public debt as a proportion of national income and concluded "Britain never experienced austerity". He actually noted that we differ from other nations such as Ireland which reduced it's debt from 86% to 75% of national income over the same period and that Spain was another nation that really did reduce it's spending. Yes me too off my "Soapbox" now and will concentrate on the football threads ! It is Sir Nicholas Macpherson who never experienced austerity not Britain.
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| elgrande bedford 25 Jun 17 12.55pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
In all seriousness, it wouldve been comedy gold seeing her on the pyramid stage. About as much chance of May attending Glastonbury as Corbyn attending an armed forces day celebrations.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 25 Jun 17 10.46pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Does anyone think he will get over 50% of the votes and as a result there won't be any need for the lowest candidate to drop-out and the voters re-distributed etc etc ? And what will be his chances if indeed the latter situation occurs ? I must say I haven't given this much thought hence interested to know what people think. Perhaps I should join #ToriesForCorbyn !!!! Edited by Willo (28 Jul 2015 6.48pm) Did you join?
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Jun 17 11.11pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Did you join?
What the same Corbyn who is going around in triumphant fashion ? One would think he actually WON the election. Leader of a party who deals in 'La-la land' and fantasy economics, promising what they could never deliver.Shameful and it is disturbing that there are those who were taken in by all this hogwash. Time to go to bed now ! Edited by Willo (25 Jun 2017 11.14pm)
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Jun 17 11.16pm |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
This man is going to be our leader. And a great leader he will make. Can't happen soon enough in my opinion. Falls about guffawing. Goodnight ! Edited by Willo (25 Jun 2017 11.16pm)
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| wordup 25 Jun 17 11.35pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
What the same Corbyn who is going around in triumphant fashion ? One would think he actually WON the election. Leader of a party who deals in 'La-la land' and fantasy economics, promising what they could never deliver.Shameful and it is disturbing that there are those who were taken in by all this hogwash. Time to go to bed now ! Edited by Willo (25 Jun 2017 11.14pm) In times like these, majorities are won and lots by undecided and moderate voters. No matter your political hue it's your responsibility to broaden the appeal of your party not get preened by those already firmly in agreement by trotting out a bunch of cliches.
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| wordup 25 Jun 17 11.38pm |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
This man is going to be our leader. And a great leader he will make. Can't happen soon enough in my opinion. If the election was in three weeks then possibly, it coul just as easily be in 3 years though. It will all depend of how well the minority government can hang together. Right now they will do almost anything to avoid another election. Edited by wordup (25 Jun 2017 11.39pm)
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| Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 25 Jun 17 11.54pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Falls about guffawing. Goodnight ! Edited by Willo (25 Jun 2017 11.16pm)
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