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 Face in Wetherspoons  27 Jun 17 9.20am |
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Originally posted by Username
Worth considering that coalition governments may become more common anyway, and the number of actual votes needed for that to happen is very small, given how close a number of those seats were. Actually genuinely interested to see what the verdict from those vote Tory because of their financial management and are anti-Corbyn because he just wants 'to chuck money about' think of this deal? Are you just happy it's done and over with? Or are you as annoyed as people from the otherside are? More annoyed that the BBC and cheerleader of the 'we all love Jeremy'campaign (that included turning Glastonbury into a political rally) is not being sorted out. Us tv licence holders help to pay for this regardless of whether we agree or not. Its about time that the Lefties were rooted out with unbiased reporting becoming the norm. I like to think that most of the general public are more than capable of making considered judgements based on plain and unbiased facts rather than which 'side of the fence' the reporter may be sitting on. Why is it that the Tories doing a deal with the DUP is a bung when Labour offering to wipe off student debt to help get the young vote (with no idea where the money is coming from) not reported as a bribe ?
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| steeleye20 Croydon 27 Jun 17 9.52am |
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Originally posted by Hansy
The Labour Manifesto was a bit too socialist for our country. I didn't mind it, but I liked parts of each manifesto, especially the 1p increase ringfenced for the NHS from the Lib Dems. I wouldn't vote Corbyn, as alot of my family are still in the military. Voting for someone that has called on cuts in the armed forces I'd be voting on them being removed. The labour manifesto commits defence spending to 2% of GDP as it is now.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 27 Jun 17 9.59am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The labour manifesto commits defence spending to 2% of GDP as it is now. Yes, but Corbyn's idea of 'defence' is inviting various mass-murderers to the House of Commons for tea and a chat. He will be able to buy a lot of scones for 2% of GDP - mind you, as GDP would collapse under Corbyn, 2% might not be a lot.
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| Hansy 27 Jun 17 10.01am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The labour manifesto commits defence spending to 2% of GDP as it is now. Correct, but he's also called for cuts in the Armed forces. It's easy to redirect defense funding to other places. i.e. Military personnel funding to other places in the military.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 27 Jun 17 10.26am |
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Originally posted by Username
Worth considering that coalition governments may become more common anyway, and the number of actual votes needed for that to happen is very small, given how close a number of those seats were. Actually genuinely interested to see what the verdict from those vote Tory because of their financial management and are anti-Corbyn because he just wants 'to chuck money about' think of this deal? Are you just happy it's done and over with? Or are you as annoyed as people from the otherside are? Well you say that, but I'd imagine that the DUP payoff for 10 votes, won't help the Tories who just won seats in Scotland from the SNP. Who knows what will happen.
"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" |
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| Hansy 27 Jun 17 10.30am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Well you say that, but I'd imagine that the DUP payoff for 10 votes, won't help the Tories who just won seats in Scotland from the SNP. Who knows what will happen. Scotland have Max Devo don't they? As well as a £7bn hole in their budget that the UK covers.
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| Hansy 27 Jun 17 11.33am |
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I think McDonnell is still trying to work out how many more seats they need to form a coalition.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 27 Jun 17 12.35pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Yes, but Corbyn's idea of 'defence' is inviting various mass-murderers to the House of Commons for tea and a chat. He will be able to buy a lot of scones for 2% of GDP - mind you, as GDP would collapse under Corbyn, 2% might not be a lot. Lucky then that the DUP are nice and shiny... I think the terror sympathiser trump card doesn't really work anymore. But just so people understand, F**k the Republican Terrorists and F**k the Loyalist terrorists, right in their arse.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 27 Jun 17 12.36pm |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
All this wibble-wailing about the DUP is utterly hilarious. And confected. The sneer on this guy's face at 00:41 is just incredible. Hypocrites indeed. Meanwhile, I thought all you commies were into the redistribution of wealth - what's the problem? Is it only when dear leader suggests it? Got the triple lock back, winter fuel payments, NATO-mandated 2% GDP on defense. If only the Tories had put that in their manifesto, they probably wouldn't be in this mess. Anyway. Just checking to see if Corbyn is PM yet (he still seems to be campaigning).....
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 27 Jun 17 12.36pm |
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Originally posted by Hansy
I think McDonnell is still trying to work out how many more seats they need to form a coalition. Probably shouldn't have asked Abbot to help him.
"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" |
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| Hansy 27 Jun 17 1.03pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Cornwall and Devon are countries? This is FAKE news. The Government already cover N.Ireland, Scotland and Wales' budget black holes. The SNP could have had the opportunity to work with the Conservatives, just like any other party. They didn't declare an interest. Edited by Hansy (27 Jun 2017 1.05pm)
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| steeleye20 Croydon 27 Jun 17 1.36pm |
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Originally posted by Hansy
Cornwall and Devon are countries? This is FAKE news. The Government already cover N.Ireland, Scotland and Wales' budget black holes. The SNP could have had the opportunity to work with the Conservatives, just like any other party. They didn't declare an interest. Edited by Hansy (27 Jun 2017 1.05pm) Hansy these are piddling amounts. The whole economy is one vast black hole nearly 2 trillions and rising.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 27 Jun 17 1.42pm |
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Originally posted by Hansy
Cornwall and Devon are countries? This is FAKE news. The Government already cover N.Ireland, Scotland and Wales' budget black holes. The SNP could have had the opportunity to work with the Conservatives, just like any other party. They didn't declare an interest. Edited by Hansy (27 Jun 2017 1.05pm) Cornwall has, in the very distant past, been a different country. I'd imagine the SNP quite like the fact that the English Parliament is going to dosh out money to NI, given they just lost seats to the Conservatives in Scotland.
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| Hansy 27 Jun 17 2.12pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Cornwall has, in the very distant past, been a different country. I'd imagine the SNP quite like the fact that the English Parliament is going to dosh out money to NI, given they just lost seats to the Conservatives in Scotland. It also belonged to Wales. Various parts of 'England' were their own countries. Still, they don't have a government setup or power like Holyrood or Stormont. Sturgeon Statement due in 8 minutes. Wonder whether she'll talk about the 40% loss in seats. Imagine if that was Labour, Tories or Lib Dems. People will be calling for the leader's resignation. Edited by Hansy (27 Jun 2017 2.13pm)
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| Hansy 27 Jun 17 2.36pm |
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Sturgeon withdraws calls for a second referendum immediately. Looks terribly on the SNP. Edited by Hansy (27 Jun 2017 2.38pm)
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 27 Jun 17 2.44pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I'd love it if I could sh1t gold bullion at will, but that aint going to happen either. The Torys won, as did people voting for Brexit. Time to stop stamping your feet. There is also a touch of irony that the terrorist sympathiser has lost his chance of being PM down to a former terrorist organisation that opposed the one he cosy'd up to. Whoops. #chose the wrong side.
"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'" |
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| Stirlingsays 27 Jun 17 2.57pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Hansy these are piddling amounts. The whole economy is one vast black hole nearly 2 trillions and rising.
I can't see how someone with your politics can refer to debt as a negative. You supported a party that committed to increasing spending massively....yet with a manifesto which very likely couldn't cover it. Debt and the deficit would have increased significantly.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 27 Jun 17 4.13pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I can't see how someone with your politics can refer to debt as a negative. You supported a party that committed to increasing spending massively....yet with a manifesto which very likely couldn't cover it. Debt and the deficit would have increased significantly. Not so the labour manifesto was fully costed. Corporations, the better-off will pay for the increases. This is because, unlike disability claimants, they actually have the money. It is an opportunity for them to be responsible members of society (well there is a first for everything)
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