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biosphere76 Ex Croydon - Currently Norwich 17 Apr 14 4.33pm
Quote Eagle_SA at 17 Apr 2014 3.41pm With all due respect to Tan, he did manage to write 5 pages of this complaint, he must be incredibly creative! He pays lawyers to do that. Which is why I'm worried, as the son of beep has a lot of cash, and is just crazy enough to go the full mile to try and f*** us over. Edited by biosphere76 (17 Apr 2014 4.34pm) Forum member since 2011 with two other names - Soundcircus and palace_nomad. Lost access to my email accounts twice! And forgot my forum passwords twice! Such a muppet I am.
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Ex Croydon - Currently Norwich 17 Apr 14 4.33pm

Quote Eagle_SA at 17 Apr 2014 3.41pm

With all due respect to Tan, he did manage to write 5 pages of this complaint, he must be incredibly creative!

He pays lawyers to do that.
Which is why I'm worried, as the son of beep has a lot of cash, and is just crazy enough to go the full mile to try and f*** us over.

Edited by biosphere76 (17 Apr 2014 4.34pm)

Forum member since 2011 with two other names - Soundcircus and palace_nomad. Lost access to my email accounts twice! And forgot my forum passwords twice! Such a muppet I am.

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Master Coin 17 Apr 14 4.38pm
Quote rchrd at 17 Apr 2014 2.45pm The worst thing about this is that moody accidentally sent the text to freedman who instantly dobbed us in to solskjaer. What a git. How would Moody even text it to DF by mistake?!? Makes no sense whatsoever. Moody joined the club long after Dougie left. Surely he has text Pulis once or twice in the meantime. Colour me sceptical...
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17 Apr 14 4.38pm

Quote rchrd at 17 Apr 2014 2.45pm

The worst thing about this is that moody accidentally sent the text to freedman who instantly dobbed us in to solskjaer. What a git.

How would Moody even text it to DF by mistake?!? Makes no sense whatsoever. Moody joined the club long after Dougie left. Surely he has text Pulis once or twice in the meantime.

Colour me sceptical...

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The Dolphin 17 Apr 14 4.38pm
Having just read a long piece on the BBC website there is no doubt we did it and that Moody mistakenly sent the text to Dougie instead of whoever he meant to! Can we be punished by a points deduction? I would hope not but the PL can be very silly at times and nothing would surprise me at all. If it is going to happen it needs to be quick - like next week!
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17 Apr 14 4.38pm

Having just read a long piece on the BBC website there is no doubt we did it and that Moody mistakenly sent the text to Dougie instead of whoever he meant to!
Can we be punished by a points deduction?
I would hope not but the PL can be very silly at times and nothing would surprise me at all.
If it is going to happen it needs to be quick - like next week!

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Part Time James 17 Apr 14 4.44pm
Quote The Dolphin at 17 Apr 2014 4.38pm Having just read a long piece on the BBC website there is no doubt we did it and that Moody mistakenly sent the text to Dougie instead of whoever he meant to! Can we be punished by a points deduction? I would hope not but the PL can be very silly at times and nothing would surprise me at all. If it is going to happen it needs to be quick - like next week! I am 99.9% sure it won't happen, but talk of any more than 3 points being deducted wouldn't make sense. Although you could argue that the morale of the team may have inspired us to beat Villa and Everton, essentially you can't prove that any more than you can prove that it helped us beat Cardiff. But say the PL were mental enough to agree that it allowed us to beat Cardiff, then 3 points would have to be the most they could inflict. Anyway, as I say, I don't anticipate that has any legs.
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Quote The Dolphin at 17 Apr 2014 4.38pm

I am 99.9% sure it won't happen, but talk of any more than 3 points being deducted wouldn't make sense. Although you could argue that the morale of the team may have inspired us to beat Villa and Everton, essentially you can't prove that any more than you can prove that it helped us beat Cardiff. But say the PL were mental enough to agree that it allowed us to beat Cardiff, then 3 points would have to be the most they could inflict.

Anyway, as I say, I don't anticipate that has any legs.

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jimmyc 17 Apr 14 4.48pm
From Magaths press conference....guess Cardiff will need to file another grievance 'Fulham boss Felix Magath says he has quizzed on-loan Tottenham midfielder Lewis Holtby about the Spurs squad as his team prepare to face them at White Hart Lane on Saturday. "I always ask the players - John Heitinga against Everton and now Lewis against Tottenham," he said. "I try to get all the information I can get. I'll try also to get any information from Tottenham. "It is always a problem if you are not careful with information. Maybe it happens some time. I think Tottenham will also try to get information from us, you can not blame anyone for trying to get information. If you are lucky you can, so it is good."'
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17 Apr 14 4.48pm

From Magaths press conference....guess Cardiff will need to file another grievance

'Fulham boss Felix Magath says he has quizzed on-loan Tottenham midfielder Lewis Holtby about the Spurs squad as his team prepare to face them at White Hart Lane on Saturday.
"I always ask the players - John Heitinga against Everton and now Lewis against Tottenham," he said. "I try to get all the information I can get. I'll try also to get any information from Tottenham.
"It is always a problem if you are not careful with information. Maybe it happens some time. I think Tottenham will also try to get information from us, you can not blame anyone for trying to get information. If you are lucky you can, so it is good."'

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Plane Bromley 17 Apr 14 4.54pm
Quote jimmyc at 17 Apr 2014 4.48pm From Magaths press conference....guess Cardiff will need to file another grievance 'Fulham boss Felix Magath says he has quizzed on-loan Tottenham midfielder Lewis Holtby about the Spurs squad as his team prepare to face them at White Hart Lane on Saturday. "I always ask the players - John Heitinga against Everton and now Lewis against Tottenham," he said. "I try to get all the information I can get. I'll try also to get any information from Tottenham. "It is always a problem if you are not careful with information. Maybe it happens some time. I think Tottenham will also try to get information from us, you can not blame anyone for trying to get information. If you are lucky you can, so it is good."' This pretty much proves (as if we didn't already know) the assertion that this is rife in football and in any other sphere. It's called preparation. The prem are gonna have a job punishing just us, perhaps they need to consult the FA about their fit and proper test for Owners, how did Tan slip through.
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Quote jimmyc at 17 Apr 2014 4.48pm

From Magaths press conference....guess Cardiff will need to file another grievance

This pretty much proves (as if we didn't already know) the assertion that this is rife in football and in any other sphere. It's called preparation.

The prem are gonna have a job punishing just us, perhaps they need to consult the FA about their fit and proper test for Owners, how did Tan slip through.

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SPANISHGEOFF valencia 17 Apr 14 4.55pm
It's all about who said what to who. Unless someone admits passing on the information which I doubt will happen, it will all fizzle out. Why should moody have sent it to doggie -that's crazy. If he had gained the information he would have verbally told Pullis. He would not have put it in writing. The BBC seem to making a mountain out of a molehill. Cardiff are upset they lost. Even if the information was known it made no difference to the team Palace played since it was the same team as the previous two games.
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valencia 17 Apr 14 4.55pm

It's all about who said what to who. Unless someone admits passing on the information which I doubt will happen, it will all fizzle out. Why should moody have sent it to doggie -that's crazy. If he had gained the information he would have verbally told Pullis. He would not have put it in writing. The BBC seem to making a mountain out of a molehill. Cardiff are upset they lost. Even if the information was known it made no difference to the team Palace played since it was the same team as the previous two games.

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ambrose7 Croydon 17 Apr 14 5.03pm
As Martin Samuel wrote, if information was given willingly i.e. not under coercion, payment or phone tapping, then there quite simply isn't a case to answer. If someone at Cardiff hates Tan enough to give us the team, that's his problem. Anyway, the team was wrong, so Cardiff would do bloody well to demonstrate that it contributed to them losing. Can't see how points could be docked even if it is true. At worst, a fine for being in the grey side of the laws but that would open the floodgates with every club every week. This will be brushed off. 26th January 2010 - Enter Administration 2nd May 2010 - D-Day 1 - Survival at Hillsborough 1st June 2010 - D-Day 2 - Survival at Lloyds 7th June 2010 - CPFC2010 exchange contracts.
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Croydon 17 Apr 14 5.03pm

As Martin Samuel wrote, if information was given willingly i.e. not under coercion, payment or phone tapping, then there quite simply isn't a case to answer.

If someone at Cardiff hates Tan enough to give us the team, that's his problem.

Anyway, the team was wrong, so Cardiff would do bloody well to demonstrate that it contributed to them losing. Can't see how points could be docked even if it is true. At worst, a fine for being in the grey side of the laws but that would open the floodgates with every club every week. This will be brushed off.

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folkestonepalacefan Folkestone 17 Apr 14 5.06pm
Surely TP would have spent from the Monday or Tuesday onwards preparing the team, its unlikely that OGS would have changed their tactics considerably during the week either ?. So, we should believe that knowledge of what we 'thought' would be their team about 24 hours of the match, would have changed our tactics considerably ?. If anything I would have thought that that would be harmful to whatever TP had drilled into the players in the days preceding the Friday. Perhaps we have a case to say that this disrupted our preparation as well !?. OGS himself announced on the Friday that Wilf would start, if TP wasn't expecting that to happen then OGS has potentially disrupted our plans to. To be honest im getting fed up with this, its tarnishing the great achievements we have made since TP came along, let alone since 2010 took over...
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Surely TP would have spent from the Monday
or Tuesday onwards preparing the team, its
unlikely that OGS would have changed their
tactics considerably during the week either ?.

So, we should believe that knowledge of what
we 'thought' would be their team about 24
hours of the match, would have changed our
tactics considerably ?. If anything I would
have thought that that would be harmful to
whatever TP had drilled into the players
in the days preceding the Friday. Perhaps we
have a case to say that this disrupted our
preparation as well !?. OGS himself announced
on the Friday that Wilf would start, if TP
wasn't expecting that to happen then OGS has
potentially disrupted our plans to.

To be honest im getting fed up with this, its
tarnishing the great achievements we have made
since TP came along, let alone since 2010 took
over...

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alffy 17 Apr 14 5.08pm
Just read the bbc report and it closes by saying the Premier League will be looking into unsporting behaviour of the inncident rather than the outcome. I guess that means the result will stand but Moody, Palace and Cardiff staff will get a bollocking.
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alffy

17 Apr 14 5.08pm

Just read the bbc report and it closes by saying the Premier League will be looking into unsporting behaviour of the inncident rather than the outcome. I guess that means the result will stand but Moody, Palace and Cardiff staff will get a bollocking.

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Eagle-Gaz bexhill 17 Apr 14 5.09pm
Quote ambrose7 at 17 Apr 2014 5.03pm As Martin Samuel wrote, if information was given willingly i.e. not under coercion, payment or phone tapping, then there quite simply isn't a case to answer. If someone at Cardiff hates Tan enough to give us the team, that's his problem. Anyway, the team was wrong, so Cardiff would do bloody well to demonstrate that it contributed to them losing. Can't see how points could be docked even if it is true. At worst, a fine for being in the grey side of the laws but that would open the floodgates with every club every week. This will be brushed off. To put all our minds at rest and for us fans to enjoy our great achievement of survival i think we need someone from our board to come out and make a statement? Thoughts anyone?
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bexhill 17 Apr 14 5.09pm

Quote ambrose7 at 17 Apr 2014 5.03pm

As Martin Samuel wrote, if information was given willingly i.e. not under coercion, payment or phone tapping, then there quite simply isn't a case to answer.

If someone at Cardiff hates Tan enough to give us the team, that's his problem.

To put all our minds at rest and for us fans to enjoy our great achievement of survival i think we need someone from our board to come out and make a statement? Thoughts anyone?

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Deleted 17 17 Apr 14 5.10pm
Quote Eagle-Gaz at 17 Apr 2014 1.01pm Quote Sussex Eagle at 17 Apr 2014 12.59pm Just been on Talk sport that F.A are looking at a 4 or 6 points deduction for the Cardiff team leak. They will make their decision after final games! Are you winding us up? Yes
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17 Apr 14 5.10pm

Quote Eagle-Gaz at 17 Apr 2014 1.01pm

Quote Sussex Eagle at 17 Apr 2014 12.59pm

Just been on Talk sport that F.A are looking at a 4 or 6 points deduction for the Cardiff team leak. They will make their decision after final games!

Are you winding us up?

Yes

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