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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
Quite a vivid question put by a presenter on BBC this weekend. Are radical Muslims the new Nazi's ? (Obviously, not ALL Muslims, just the few radical ones) I watched the disturbing pictures this morning of around 200 Iraqi soldiers who were captured by ISIS whilst in their barracks. They were then all butchered. The depravity of mankind seems to be bottoming-out with the atrocities committed in the name of religion, and in particular, Islam. As Britain, (formerly, Great Britain), tiptoes around human rights, and swerves racism, and allows Muslims to wear full face-masks, not just in public, but in airport departure points, (something that wouldn't have been tolerated during the decades of IRA activity) Am I scare-mongering, or are these radicals a significant problem ? 9/11, 7/7, 'The Muslim Patrols' in London, and now the mobilisation of militia who are causing atrocities in the name of Islam in the power vacuum created by western military withdrawl. Would I have a happier life if I stopped reading/watching The News, or would I be complicit in ignoring issues outside my own tiny sphere of influence ?
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A woman wearing a Charlie Hebdo T shirt was stabbed at Speakers Corner yesterday. The assailant got away so the motive isn't known.
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
I was reading a bit about a guy who interviewed Des Nilsen many years ago. Apparently Nilsen said that Hitler would have ultimately destroyed the world if he had won WW2, as he would never be satisfied with victory. It made me think about the motivation for very recent attacks in southern Africa by Islam extremists. to also quote Nilsen, "Did God make man ? or did man make God ?"
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Originally posted by Badger11
A woman wearing a Charlie Hebdo T shirt was stabbed at Speakers Corner yesterday. The assailant got away so the motive isn't known. So the assailant just happened to be walking around London with a big knife for culinary purposes, when this T-shirt spontaneously made them attack a woman.
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
So the assailant just happened to be walking around London with a big knife for culinary purposes, when this T-shirt spontaneously made them attack a woman. Being attacked at Speakers Corner kinda say's it all.
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Originally posted by Badger11
Being attacked at Speakers Corner kinda say's it all. the Nazi's didn't like Freedom of Speech. How is the track-record of many Islamic countries in this regard ?
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Originally posted by Badger11
A woman wearing a Charlie Hebdo T shirt was stabbed at Speakers Corner yesterday. The assailant got away so the motive isn't known. Her name is Hatun Tash & this isnt the first time she has been attacked by the peaceful religion of islam. Probably not safe for work Nothing will be said nothing will be done, these attacks will continue until there are no longer any dissenting voices left in the uk. Edit. There is another video doing the rounds where you can clearly see its a man in islamic garb it has clear audio of more muslim men standing around after the incident saying she had it coming. 2nd edit. Edited by Ouzo Dan (26 Jul 2021 8.53pm)
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shall we re-name it ? how about 'islamic Speakers corner' ?
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Originally posted by cryrst
So and to date it wasn't a terror attack. Edited by cryrst (27 Jul 2021 7.11pm) You may be surprised that I don't disagree with much of the above, but so long as you throw the Bible and Torah into your collection of "dopey" books that cannot be taken literally. BTW, I don't agree that any of those books are dopey, but as an atheist I find bewildering the whole concept of treating as absolute truth books written over extended periods during the Bronze Age. A policeman's hand written account of an event he witnessed will be thrown out as unreliable if he wrote it a few hours later; but we are expected to believe this wholly and with blind faith? The only explanation can be centuries of brain-washing of the unintelligent and the threat and use of violence against the intelligent.
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Originally posted by silvertop
You may be surprised that I don't disagree with much of the above, but so long as you throw the Bible and Torah into your collection of "dopey" books that cannot be taken literally. BTW, I don't agree that any of those books are dopey, but as an atheist I find bewildering the whole concept of treating as absolute truth books written over extended periods during the Bronze Age. A policeman's hand written account of an event he witnessed will be thrown out as unreliable if he wrote it a few hours later; but we are expected to believe this wholly and with blind faith? The only explanation can be centuries of brain-washing of the unintelligent and the threat and use of violence against the intelligent. OK all religious books included. My main point is that at this present time society should really know what's right and wrong. I mean 500 years ago we were burning people for witchcraft ffs. By all means have a god and follow the teachings but do these people really think they are genuinely being told to kill in the name of the book they read. I'm sure Muhammed would not want this bearing in mind Islam is portrayed as a peaceful religeon. I will add that Islam is 500 years younger than christianity so it fits with how long Christian's took to get with the game.
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Originally posted by Joe Bloggs
2021 and irrespective which religion you follow we have made so many advances such as space travel the internet and Palace in the premier league yet we have debates about mythology. I personally would not deride beliefs held by any one because people obtaining comfort is generally harmless. You do not need to be taught common decency and behaviour by indoctrination via religious studies at school to gullible youngsters.....that leads on to non questioning belief and gullibility and even fanaticism. God did not create the earth in six days nor can any one walk on water ( Zaha perhaps) if reincarnation existed , how old would your mother need to be to have another pop, unless maybe you are now Brighton supporters. Perhaps radical Muslims are a thicker branch but sorry I just cannot take this stuff seriously. Yeah, it just spontaneously burst into existence apparently.
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
shall we re-name it ? how about 'islamic Speakers corner' ? It's already known colloquially as Sharia Corner.
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
It's already known colloquially as Sharia Corner. well it was sharia law on that apostate woman. reminds me of Hitler's ''the night of the Long knives''
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Do you know when the Bronze Age was ? Appears not. Originally posted by silvertop
You may be surprised that I don't disagree with much of the above, but so long as you throw the Bible and Torah into your collection of "dopey" books that cannot be taken literally. BTW, I don't agree that any of those books are dopey, but as an atheist I find bewildering the whole concept of treating as absolute truth books written over extended periods during the Bronze Age. A policeman's hand written account of an event he witnessed will be thrown out as unreliable if he wrote it a few hours later; but we are expected to believe this wholly and with blind faith? The only explanation can be centuries of brain-washing of the unintelligent and the threat and use of violence against the intelligent.
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Do you know when the Bronze Age was ? Appears not. 1908 Olympics?
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Muslim Judoka are all refusing to compete with jews. ...the new Nazi
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Originally posted by BlueJay
All religion is fantasy based really, and a rejection of new understandings even if there are some useful lessons and approaches to life detailed within religious texts. Go back far enough and we could say that Christianity was a barbaric religion responsible for various atrocities. These things are hijacked and directed in whatever way is useful or visible. No major religion is going away, and as well as decent life lessons the Quran, Bible and so on of course contain many bats*** crazy and violent views that can manifest themselves in various times and places. "Is Islam, the new Nazi ?" isn't a helpful title, since most people of any religion are obviously just getting on with boring day to day life for the most part. With Islamic teachings a better balance needs to be found between allowing people autonomy of view, and not turning a blind eye to more radical views that essentially break the law. Where something is nuts, contravenes law, or endangers lives, cries of 'Islamaphobia' should be ignored. Outside of that though, people should be able to hold whatever religious views they like.
on the one hand, you are correct. There is a nice side to all religions. Even the violent nasty ones.
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