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Part Time James 05 Jul 16 1.31pm
Originally posted by Southampton_Eagle He's a damn good player. Get him in asap before we get gazumpped and in pre-season training to get partnerships formed. It would make a nice change to have a manager know his best XI for the first game of the season rather than scrabbling about in the last two days of the window. I agree. He was great at Villa, didn't get much game time at Liverpool. I have every reason to believe he's still a good player. A diving f*cking cheat but the moment he scores his first Palace goal I'll forget all about that. Unless he's 30 games in before it happens...

Part Time James

05 Jul 16 1.31pm

Originally posted by Southampton_Eagle

He's a damn good player. Get him in asap before we get gazumpped and in pre-season training to get partnerships formed.

It would make a nice change to have a manager know his best XI for the first game of the season rather than scrabbling about in the last two days of the window.

I agree. He was great at Villa, didn't get much game time at Liverpool. I have every reason to believe he's still a good player.

A diving f*cking cheat but the moment he scores his first Palace goal I'll forget all about that. Unless he's 30 games in before it happens...

Eagles83 London 05 Jul 16 1.31pm
Certainly LFC fans want to see the back of him. As to all these transfers there is a risk a club overpays if it does it's business early rather than at the end of the window when teams have a settled team after 2/3 games and know who they will and can dispose of. Palace could well have sat tight and attempted to wait until the end of the window and pushed a hard bargain, but LFC know there is still basically 8 weeks to go until the window shuts. Its a catch 22 situation in that LFC will want the funds to invest on new players...CPFC want the player in pre-season training....the player will want some security...who flinches first? I am so pro this deal happening and think it is huge for us. This guy gets goals wherever he has been and he scored at LFC with very little first team action. Having him for those 2/3 games in August may be the difference of finishing 10th or 6th which next year is about £2m a place....so overall this becomes an educated gamble on going for it at £30m and securing more prize money or bargaining and ending up with a player later on in the window and costing that prize money.

Eagles83

London 05 Jul 16 1.31pm

Certainly LFC fans want to see the back of him.

As to all these transfers there is a risk a club overpays if it does it's business early rather than at the end of the window when teams have a settled team after 2/3 games and know who they will and can dispose of. Palace could well have sat tight and attempted to wait until the end of the window and pushed a hard bargain, but LFC know there is still basically 8 weeks to go until the window shuts. Its a catch 22 situation in that LFC will want the funds to invest on new players...CPFC want the player in pre-season training....the player will want some security...who flinches first?

I am so pro this deal happening and think it is huge for us. This guy gets goals wherever he has been and he scored at LFC with very little first team action. Having him for those 2/3 games in August may be the difference of finishing 10th or 6th which next year is about £2m a place....so overall this becomes an educated gamble on going for it at £30m and securing more prize money or bargaining and ending up with a player later on in the window and costing that prize money.

Adamoc123 Ennis 05 Jul 16 1.35pm
Originally posted by cpfc84 forum is split most people think 25 is to much now we have gone to 27 now they want 30 every other club is laughing at us of how much we are willing to spend on benteke Just the Liverpool fans i believe, and also they always had it set at £30m we've been looking to negotiate but they won't play ball. In my opinion we should drop it and watch as the liverpool fans implode with rage asking the management team what were they thinking for not selling earlier. We have more targets i'm sure, move on and bring our money with us. ... but on the other hand.. Benteke.. Edited by Adamoc123 (05 Jul 2016 1.39pm) The First 90 Minutes Are The Most Important!

Adamoc123

Ennis 05 Jul 16 1.35pm

Originally posted by cpfc84

forum is split most people think 25 is to much now we have gone to 27 now they want 30

every other club is laughing at us of how much we are willing to spend on benteke

Just the Liverpool fans i believe, and also they always had it set at £30m we've been looking to negotiate but they won't play ball.
In my opinion we should drop it and watch as the liverpool fans implode with rage asking the management team what were they thinking for not selling earlier.
We have more targets i'm sure, move on and bring our money with us.

... but on the other hand.. Benteke..

Edited by Adamoc123 (05 Jul 2016 1.39pm)

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Southampton_Eagle At the after party 05 Jul 16 1.37pm
Originally posted by Eagles83 Certainly LFC fans want to see the back of him. As to all these transfers there is a risk a club overpays if it does it's business early rather than at the end of the window when teams have a settled team after 2/3 games and know who they will and can dispose of. Palace could well have sat tight and attempted to wait until the end of the window and pushed a hard bargain, but LFC know there is still basically 8 weeks to go until the window shuts. Its a catch 22 situation in that LFC will want the funds to invest on new players...CPFC want the player in pre-season training....the player will want some security...who flinches first? I am so pro this deal happening and think it is huge for us. This guy gets goals wherever he has been and he scored at LFC with very little first team action. Having him for those 2/3 games in August may be the difference of finishing 10th or 6th which next year is about £2m a place....so overall this becomes an educated gamble on going for it at £30m and securing more prize money or bargaining and ending up with a player later on in the window and costing that prize money. As you can probably tell I'm very much up for this deal as well. Liverpool will recoup pretty much all the money they've just spent on Mane and I have had many Saints fans say that they'd rather have Benteke over Mane.

Southampton_Eagle

At the after party 05 Jul 16 1.37pm

Originally posted by Eagles83

Certainly LFC fans want to see the back of him.

As you can probably tell I'm very much up for this deal as well. Liverpool will recoup pretty much all the money they've just spent on Mane and I have had many Saints fans say that they'd rather have Benteke over Mane.

james03 Bangkok 05 Jul 16 1.39pm
Who knows what he is worth? Is it 15m, 20m, 25m, 27m, 30m, more? If we get him for 30m and he scores 25 goals and that helps guide us to sixth place or higher does that mean we got him cheap? If we sign him and he tanks we will still get 25m for him next season of that I am pretty certain. Is anyone laughing at Chelsea for buying Batshuayi for 32.5m who has never set foot in the PL? Let's just face it - this is all madness and you either stand there screaming and pulling your hair out or just say 'what the heck' and go with the decisions the football club makes. I hope we sign him but then if we don't I will not lose any sleep over it. Personally I have the feeling this one is going to bite the dust but nothing other than a gut feel says that.....then again that could just be the dodgy Thai curry giving me grief! The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho Marx

james03

Bangkok 05 Jul 16 1.39pm

Who knows what he is worth? Is it 15m, 20m, 25m, 27m, 30m, more?

If we get him for 30m and he scores 25 goals and that helps guide us to sixth place or higher does that mean we got him cheap?

If we sign him and he tanks we will still get 25m for him next season of that I am pretty certain.

Is anyone laughing at Chelsea for buying Batshuayi for 32.5m who has never set foot in the PL?

Let's just face it - this is all madness and you either stand there screaming and pulling your hair out or just say 'what the heck' and go with the decisions the football club makes.

I hope we sign him but then if we don't I will not lose any sleep over it. Personally I have the feeling this one is going to bite the dust but nothing other than a gut feel says that.....then again that could just be the dodgy Thai curry giving me grief!

The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho Marx

silvertop Portishead 05 Jul 16 1.44pm
Originally posted by Eagles83 Certainly LFC fans want to see the back of him. As to all these transfers there is a risk a club overpays if it does it's business early rather than at the end of the window when teams have a settled team after 2/3 games and know who they will and can dispose of. Palace could well have sat tight and attempted to wait until the end of the window and pushed a hard bargain, but LFC know there is still basically 8 weeks to go until the window shuts. Its a catch 22 situation in that LFC will want the funds to invest on new players...CPFC want the player in pre-season training....the player will want some security...who flinches first? I am so pro this deal happening and think it is huge for us. This guy gets goals wherever he has been and he scored at LFC with very little first team action. Having him for those 2/3 games in August may be the difference of finishing 10th or 6th which next year is about £2m a place....so overall this becomes an educated gamble on going for it at £30m and securing more prize money or bargaining and ending up with a player later on in the window and costing that prize money. To be fair we were always going to flinch first. OK they want rid. But we know he is the only player of his calibre, who plays our system, is a proven scorer in this league and is available. Trouble is, so do Liverpool. And they also know that we will not be the only potential buyer over the next 8 weeks. They hold almost all the cards. We are over a barrel; but so far as barrels go, it's one of the best.

silvertop

Portishead 05 Jul 16 1.44pm

Originally posted by Eagles83

Certainly LFC fans want to see the back of him.

To be fair we were always going to flinch first. OK they want rid. But we know he is the only player of his calibre, who plays our system, is a proven scorer in this league and is available. Trouble is, so do Liverpool. And they also know that we will not be the only potential buyer over the next 8 weeks. They hold almost all the cards.

We are over a barrel; but so far as barrels go, it's one of the best.

Part Time James 05 Jul 16 1.46pm
I think a signing of this size will be the final step to distance ourselves from any kind of "tin pot" moniker we have had in the past. The signing of Cabaye almost got us there and I also think the signings of Mandanda and Townsend have as well, but this would be the final slap in Lineker's smug jug eared coupon. People will even forget that Selhurst is a tad ragged.

Part Time James

05 Jul 16 1.46pm

I think a signing of this size will be the final step to distance ourselves from any kind of "tin pot" moniker we have had in the past. The signing of Cabaye almost got us there and I also think the signings of Mandanda and Townsend have as well, but this would be the final slap in Lineker's smug jug eared coupon. People will even forget that Selhurst is a tad ragged.

-TUX- Alphabettispaghetti 05 Jul 16 1.46pm
Originally posted by Eagles83 Certainly LFC fans want to see the back of him. As to all these transfers there is a risk a club overpays if it does it's business early rather than at the end of the window when teams have a settled team after 2/3 games and know who they will and can dispose of. Palace could well have sat tight and attempted to wait until the end of the window and pushed a hard bargain, but LFC know there is still basically 8 weeks to go until the window shuts. Its a catch 22 situation in that LFC will want the funds to invest on new players...CPFC want the player in pre-season training....the player will want some security...who flinches first? I am so pro this deal happening and think it is huge for us. This guy gets goals wherever he has been and he scored at LFC with very little first team action. Having him for those 2/3 games in August may be the difference of finishing 10th or 6th which next year is about £2m a place....so overall this becomes an educated gamble on going for it at £30m and securing more prize money or bargaining and ending up with a player later on in the window and costing that prize money. I get the feeling that many of them are sad that it didn't work out for him/them, not that they'll be 'glad to see the back of him'. A good pro and a decent lad according to many, just the wrong club/system at the wrong time. I really hope this deal goes through. Time to move forward together.

-TUX-

Alphabettispaghetti 05 Jul 16 1.46pm

Originally posted by Eagles83

Certainly LFC fans want to see the back of him.

I get the feeling that many of them are sad that it didn't work out for him/them, not that they'll be 'glad to see the back of him'.
A good pro and a decent lad according to many, just the wrong club/system at the wrong time.

I really hope this deal goes through.

Time to move forward together.

Part Time James 05 Jul 16 1.47pm
Out of interest, are we trying to fight off any other bidder of around £30m? I mean, that has to work in our favour. We're not in a bidding war with anyone.

Part Time James

05 Jul 16 1.47pm

Out of interest, are we trying to fight off any other bidder of around £30m? I mean, that has to work in our favour. We're not in a bidding war with anyone.

Part Time James 05 Jul 16 1.48pm
Originally posted by -TUX- I get the feeling that many of them are sad that it didn't work out for him/them, not that they'll be 'glad to see the back of him'. A good pro and a decent lad according to many, just the wrong club/system at the wrong time. I really hope this deal goes through. Also, didn't Bristol City want to see the back of Yannick Bolasie? Although the poster was pro-Benteke.

Part Time James

05 Jul 16 1.48pm

Originally posted by -TUX-

I really hope this deal goes through.

Also, didn't Bristol City want to see the back of Yannick Bolasie? Although the poster was pro-Benteke.

Mr_Flow London 05 Jul 16 1.49pm
If Ross McCormack was worth 11 million in 2014, Benteke is definitely worth 30 million in todays market. Hope we get this one sorted. I'll be over the moon if we do.

Mr_Flow

London 05 Jul 16 1.49pm

If Ross McCormack was worth 11 million in 2014, Benteke is definitely worth 30 million in todays market.

Hope we get this one sorted. I'll be over the moon if we do.

rikz Croydon 05 Jul 16 1.50pm
With the tv deal we all knew fees and wages would inflate, 30 mill this year is the equivalent of 19 mill last year.

rikz

Croydon 05 Jul 16 1.50pm

With the tv deal we all knew fees and wages would inflate, 30 mill this year is the equivalent of 19 mill last year.

Part Time James 05 Jul 16 1.52pm
Originally posted by rikz With the tv deal we all knew fees and wages would inflate, 30 mill this year is the equivalent of 19 mill last year. And about the equivalent of £2.2m when we signed Akinbiyi (this is not me suggesting we are getting an Akinbiyi quality player by the way, I am in favour of this signing)

Part Time James

05 Jul 16 1.52pm

Originally posted by rikz

With the tv deal we all knew fees and wages would inflate, 30 mill this year is the equivalent of 19 mill last year.

And about the equivalent of £2.2m when we signed Akinbiyi (this is not me suggesting we are getting an Akinbiyi quality player by the way, I am in favour of this signing)

Adamoc123 Ennis 05 Jul 16 1.54pm
One things for sure, if this is happening it needs to go through before Sunday so he can gel with the team in America. The First 90 Minutes Are The Most Important!

Adamoc123

Ennis 05 Jul 16 1.54pm

One things for sure, if this is happening it needs to go through before Sunday so he can gel with the team in America.

The First 90 Minutes Are The Most Important!

bexleydave Barnehurst 05 Jul 16 2.06pm
I don't think we're going to find another player of this sort of quality, with PL experience, who would even consider Palace for a microsecond. £27.5m rising to £32.5m with add-ons or a straight £30m? There's so little difference, in relative terms, we might as well get this done and dusted before the US tour. If he gets us in the top half next season he'll have paid back that extra £3m upfront in spades. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

bexleydave

Barnehurst 05 Jul 16 2.06pm

I don't think we're going to find another player of this sort of quality, with PL experience, who would even consider Palace for a microsecond. £27.5m rising to £32.5m with add-ons or a straight £30m? There's so little difference, in relative terms, we might as well get this done and dusted before the US tour. If he gets us in the top half next season he'll have paid back that extra £3m upfront in spades.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

traevor 05 Jul 16 2.08pm
Originally posted by Southampton_Eagle Who are available and who will come? Go on, name one... You've got me. I suppose I'm not used to seeing us spending on this magnitude and arguably in the past it hadn't worked when we did. Benteke is certainly a good player, the kind we need to take us forward. Still, I can't help but worry.

traevor

05 Jul 16 2.08pm

Originally posted by Southampton_Eagle

Who are available and who will come?

Go on, name one...

You've got me.

I suppose I'm not used to seeing us spending on this magnitude and arguably in the past it hadn't worked when we did. Benteke is certainly a good player, the kind we need to take us forward. Still, I can't help but worry.

-TUX- Alphabettispaghetti 05 Jul 16 2.09pm
Originally posted by bexleydave I don't think we're going to find another player of this sort of quality, with PL experience, who would even consider Palace for a microsecond. £27.5m rising to £32.5m with add-ons or a straight £30m? There's so little difference, in relative terms, we might as well get this done and dusted before the US tour. If he gets us in the top half next season he'll have paid back that extra £3m upfront in spades. Every bit of this. Time to move forward together.

-TUX-

Alphabettispaghetti 05 Jul 16 2.09pm

Originally posted by bexleydave

Every bit of this.

Time to move forward together.

grumpymort US/Thailand/UK 05 Jul 16 2.10pm
Not worth over £30m Liverpool are taking the p**s they only paid £32.5m and he had a poor season so expecting to price him at around that is not good £27m is a fair price. With how much we look to be spending have to finish in top half if we do like last season manager has to go. (VPN) - [Link] (Alt VPN) - [Link]

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US/Thailand/UK 05 Jul 16 2.10pm

Not worth over £30m Liverpool are taking the p**s they only paid £32.5m and he had a poor season so expecting to price him at around that is not good £27m is a fair price.

With how much we look to be spending have to finish in top half if we do like last season manager has to go.

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Nobbybm Dartford 05 Jul 16 2.17pm
Originally posted by bexleydave I don't think we're going to find another player of this sort of quality, with PL experience, who would even consider Palace for a microsecond. £27.5m rising to £32.5m with add-ons or a straight £30m? There's so little difference, in relative terms, we might as well get this done and dusted before the US tour. If he gets us in the top half next season he'll have paid back that extra £3m upfront in spades. Yep. The figures I heard banded about on the radio mean next season the difference between 15th & 10th on the EPL is around £30m in income. Edited by Nobbybm (05 Jul 2016 2.19pm) Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!

Nobbybm

Dartford 05 Jul 16 2.17pm

Originally posted by bexleydave

Yep. The figures I heard banded about on the radio mean next season the difference between 15th & 10th on the EPL is around £30m in income.

Edited by Nobbybm (05 Jul 2016 2.19pm)

Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!

OknotOK Cockfosters, London 05 Jul 16 2.18pm
Given the fees that are being touted for various players at the moment, it doesn't seem unreasonable. If we want the player - who has the ability to score 15 goals in the PL without question - and Liverpool know that we are a more desperate buyer currently than they are seller (because other clubs will come in later in the market and we could get gazumped) then I think we have to accept our negotiating position. Even at £30m+ I think it could be the sort of deal that propels the club to the next level. Defensively we were not terrible last season, but we needed a decent goalscorer. "It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

OknotOK

Cockfosters, London 05 Jul 16 2.18pm

Given the fees that are being touted for various players at the moment, it doesn't seem unreasonable.

If we want the player - who has the ability to score 15 goals in the PL without question - and Liverpool know that we are a more desperate buyer currently than they are seller (because other clubs will come in later in the market and we could get gazumped) then I think we have to accept our negotiating position.

Even at £30m+ I think it could be the sort of deal that propels the club to the next level. Defensively we were not terrible last season, but we needed a decent goalscorer.

"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

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