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crystal balls The Garden of Earthly Delights 28 Aug 17 10.27pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Forthed This is accurate. All sides using Trump as an excuse to pursue their pathetic agendas. I think it's the other way round; Trump's stupidity entitles rational people to voice their opinion when with a more rational president most people dont feel a need to express themselves. See voter turnout figures in US elections since 1950s. Trump is so clearly a loose cannon, but some of his supporters wouldn't admit it even if he were to cause them actual harm! I used to be immortal

crystal balls

The Garden of Earthly Delights 28 Aug 17 10.27pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Forthed This is accurate. All sides using Trump as an excuse to pursue their pathetic agendas.

I think it's the other way round; Trump's stupidity entitles rational people to voice their opinion when with a more rational president most people dont feel a need to express themselves.

See voter turnout figures in US elections since 1950s. Trump is so clearly a loose cannon, but some of his supporters wouldn't admit it even if he were to cause them actual harm!

I used to be immortal

legaleagle 28 Aug 17 11.00pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Frothed This is accurate. EFA

legaleagle

28 Aug 17 11.00pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Frothed This is accurate.

EFA

matt_himself Matataland 29 Aug 17 6.43am
I guess this is Trump's fault: [Link] "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 29 Aug 17 6.43am

I guess this is Trump's fault:

[Link]

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

legaleagle 29 Aug 17 8.02am
Originally posted by matt_himself I guess this is Trump's fault: [Link] Err No.Good trolling attempt,Mr Uphimself.

legaleagle

29 Aug 17 8.02am

Originally posted by matt_himself

I guess this is Trump's fault:

[Link]

Err No.Good trolling attempt,Mr Uphimself.

jamiemartin721 Reading 29 Aug 17 12.50pm
Originally posted by matt_himself I guess this is Trump's fault: [Link] I don't see things as being 'x is to blame' when the situation of geo-politics is incredibly complicated, and can't really be struck down to a simple statement. The problem of North Korea goes back to the 1950s, and every successive leader in the US and North Korea, along with China and the UN (among others) has some degree of involvement in the complexity of the problem that is North Korea. There is no real solution to the problem, that doesn't either play out remarkably well for North Korea, or badly for South East Asia. Its like Cuba on steroids. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]

jamiemartin721

Reading 29 Aug 17 12.50pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

I guess this is Trump's fault:

[Link]

I don't see things as being 'x is to blame' when the situation of geo-politics is incredibly complicated, and can't really be struck down to a simple statement.

The problem of North Korea goes back to the 1950s, and every successive leader in the US and North Korea, along with China and the UN (among others) has some degree of involvement in the complexity of the problem that is North Korea.

There is no real solution to the problem, that doesn't either play out remarkably well for North Korea, or badly for South East Asia. Its like Cuba on steroids.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

jamiemartin721 Reading 29 Aug 17 1.05pm
Originally posted by .TUX. You can't see the bigger picture.......but you're not alone in being wrong. Trump is not the problem, the system (here as well as the IOUSA) IS the problem. You can bash the keyboard as long as you like bud but your time would be better spent looking into why those who follow you will be worse off than you are at this moment in time. So stop dicking about with stuff that ultimately doesn't matter and start looking into why you are worse off than your grandparents. Expand your well intentioned thoughts. True, the whole Trump as president, is the pathology of a system that is deeply flawed, and an pathological electorate (too many Americans have 'irrational' reasons for why they vote democrat or republican, rather than practical ones). Representation in the US is p1ss poor, especially of the working / ordinary citizens. Neither the Republican or Democratic party seem overly interested in representation and delivering back to the US people. Which is why Saunders did so well in the primaries and Trump beat Clinton. The US has reached a point where people are desperate enough to vote for a fktard as president, because at least he was saying some of the things they wanted to hear (even if it was all bullst and he's backed away from a lot of those issues). The disconnect between what politicans represent and what the people actually need is so dramatic its a farce. In which case its not surprising that they elected a farce as president. Its not the president that stokes the far right or far left, that's the tip of the iceberg, its the economic situation and prospects of the citizens: people hate and get radicalised because they see no hope or return in the existing system for progress. Of course, the far right and far left also tend to be talking bulls**t rhetoric, but it does give people someone 'to blame for the situation', outside of the political scope (Capitalists, the Jews, Immigrants etc). It was the same with Nazi Germany, the failure of the state generated a situation where in the far left and far right flourished, and led to the rise of the Nazi party - because they monumentally failed the people. When in truth, the only people who really are to blame, is the people in charge. The US political system is failing to deliver anything but more hardships to too many people. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]

jamiemartin721

Reading 29 Aug 17 1.05pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

You can't see the bigger picture.......but you're not alone in being wrong.
Trump is not the problem, the system (here as well as the IOUSA) IS the problem.
You can bash the keyboard as long as you like bud but your time would be better spent looking into why those who follow you will be worse off than you are at this moment in time.
So stop dicking about with stuff that ultimately doesn't matter and start looking into why you are worse off than your grandparents.
Expand your well intentioned thoughts.

True, the whole Trump as president, is the pathology of a system that is deeply flawed, and an pathological electorate (too many Americans have 'irrational' reasons for why they vote democrat or republican, rather than practical ones).

Representation in the US is p1ss poor, especially of the working / ordinary citizens.

Neither the Republican or Democratic party seem overly interested in representation and delivering back to the US people.

Which is why Saunders did so well in the primaries and Trump beat Clinton. The US has reached a point where people are desperate enough to vote for a f**ktard as president, because at least he was saying some of the things they wanted to hear (even if it was all bulls**t and he's backed away from a lot of those issues).

The disconnect between what politicans represent and what the people actually need is so dramatic its a farce.

In which case its not surprising that they elected a farce as president. Its not the president that stokes the far right or far left, that's the tip of the iceberg, its the economic situation and prospects of the citizens: people hate and get radicalised because they see no hope or return in the existing system for progress.

Of course, the far right and far left also tend to be talking bulls**t rhetoric, but it does give people someone 'to blame for the situation', outside of the political scope (Capitalists, the Jews, Immigrants etc).

It was the same with Nazi Germany, the failure of the state generated a situation where in the far left and far right flourished, and led to the rise of the Nazi party - because they monumentally failed the people.

When in truth, the only people who really are to blame, is the people in charge. The US political system is failing to deliver anything but more hardships to too many people.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

.TUX. 29 Aug 17 7.22pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 True, the whole Trump as president, is the pathology of a system that is deeply flawed, and an pathological electorate (too many Americans have 'irrational' reasons for why they vote democrat or republican, rather than practical ones). Representation in the US is p1ss poor, especially of the working / ordinary citizens. Neither the Republican or Democratic party seem overly interested in representation and delivering back to the US people. Which is why Saunders did so well in the primaries and Trump beat Clinton. The US has reached a point where people are desperate enough to vote for a fktard as president, because at least he was saying some of the things they wanted to hear (even if it was all bullst and he's backed away from a lot of those issues). The disconnect between what politicans represent and what the people actually need is so dramatic its a farce. In which case its not surprising that they elected a farce as president. Its not the president that stokes the far right or far left, that's the tip of the iceberg, its the economic situation and prospects of the citizens: people hate and get radicalised because they see no hope or return in the existing system for progress. Of course, the far right and far left also tend to be talking bullst rhetoric, but it does give people someone 'to blame for the situation', outside of the political scope (Capitalists, the Jews, Immigrants etc). It was the same with Nazi Germany, the failure of the state generated a situation where in the far left and far right flourished, and led to the rise of the Nazi party - because they monumentally failed the people. When in truth, the only people who really are to blame, is the people in charge. The US political system is failing to deliver anything but more hardships to too many people.** Agreed, ditto the Brexit result. Two similar nations sharing similar problems ie the people are being screwed regardless of 'party colours'. I just wish more would see it. Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

29 Aug 17 7.22pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Representation in the US is p1ss poor, especially of the working / ordinary citizens.

Neither the Republican or Democratic party seem overly interested in representation and delivering back to the US people.

The disconnect between what politicans represent and what the people actually need is so dramatic its a farce.

When in truth, the only people who really are to blame, is the people in charge. The US political system is failing to deliver anything but more hardships to too many people.

Agreed, ditto the Brexit result.
Two similar nations sharing similar problems ie the people are being screwed regardless of 'party colours'.

I just wish more would see it.

Buy Litecoin.

mr. apollo Somewhere in Switzerland 31 Aug 17 7.54am
This is what he really looks like without the wig and the fake tan. Attachment: trumpwig.jpg (35.66Kb) Glad All Over

mr. apollo

Somewhere in Switzerland 31 Aug 17 7.54am

This is what he really looks like without the wig and the fake tan.

Attachment: trumpwig.jpg (35.66Kb)

Glad

All

Over

jamiemartin721 Reading 31 Aug 17 10.28am
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, the Trump presidency is 'great entertainment', proving that reality shows can work, if only you focus on the reality. Its really like watching a man race to the bottom. I'm also impressed, when Bush jnr was president, I never imagined that there would be a worse and more poorly equipped person elected leader. I always thought I had a very active imagination, but its nice to know there is more to life than I can imagine! "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]

jamiemartin721

Reading 31 Aug 17 10.28am

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, the Trump presidency is 'great entertainment', proving that reality shows can work, if only you focus on the reality.

Its really like watching a man race to the bottom.

I'm also impressed, when Bush jnr was president, I never imagined that there would be a worse and more poorly equipped person elected leader. I always thought I had a very active imagination, but its nice to know there is more to life than I can imagine!

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 20 Oct 17 8.34pm
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Shizzlehurst 20 Oct 17 8.34pm

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 26 Oct 17 4.22pm
The bloke doesn't make sense when it's transcribed... Attachment: IMG_20171026_162015.jpg (105.97Kb)

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 26 Oct 17 4.22pm

The bloke doesn't make sense when it's transcribed...

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jamiemartin721 Reading 26 Oct 17 6.21pm
It does make you question the validity of a democracy, where a man who can barely construct a coherent sentence, is elected to lead the nation. Its like a Forrest Gump for spoilt rich kids. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]

jamiemartin721

Reading 26 Oct 17 6.21pm

It does make you question the validity of a democracy, where a man who can barely construct a coherent sentence, is elected to lead the nation.

Its like a Forrest Gump for spoilt rich kids.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

jamiemartin721 Reading 26 Oct 17 6.22pm
Originally posted by nickgusset The bloke doesn't make sense when it's transcribed... I think he's operating on 'Cut Ups' of his own statements. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]

jamiemartin721

Reading 26 Oct 17 6.22pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

The bloke doesn't make sense when it's transcribed...

I think he's operating on 'Cut Ups' of his own statements.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 26 Oct 17 6.42pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 I think he's operating on 'Cut Ups' of his own statements. Is William Burroughs his speechwriter?

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 26 Oct 17 6.42pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I think he's operating on 'Cut Ups' of his own statements.

Is William Burroughs his speechwriter?

johnfirewall 26 Oct 17 8.35pm
Well there's nothing to say about Hilary now and it's pretty easy to find the negatives in the words of someone who doesn't give a fcuk what they say. Of the ridiculous things he says, many aren't that ridiculous if you're not out to demonise. In the depressing context of a 2 horse race, which US and UK elections invariably are, there'd have been much more pro-Clinton rather than anti-Trump sentiment over here while in the States they accepted it wasn't a great decision to have to make.

johnfirewall

26 Oct 17 8.35pm

Well there's nothing to say about Hilary now and it's pretty easy to find the negatives in the words of someone who doesn't give a fcuk what they say.

Of the ridiculous things he says, many aren't that ridiculous if you're not out to demonise.

In the depressing context of a 2 horse race, which US and UK elections invariably are, there'd have been much more pro-Clinton rather than anti-Trump sentiment over here while in the States they accepted it wasn't a great decision to have to make.

Penge Eagle Beckenham 26 Oct 17 9.19pm
The latest example on the BBC's YouTube page of their anti-Trump propaganda [Link] See attached screen shot. NOTHING on Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee paying for the discredited dossier on Trump. NOTHING on the investigation into the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton selling of 20 per cent of the USA's uranium to Russia via backhanders. Instead, there are three anti-Trump stories. Says everything you need to know about the BBC's anti-Trump and anti-Republican agenda. Edited by Penge Eagle (26 Oct 2017 9.23pm) Attachment: bbc youtube.JPG (259.18Kb)

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 26 Oct 17 9.19pm

The latest example on the BBC's YouTube page of their anti-Trump propaganda [Link] See attached screen shot.

NOTHING on Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee paying for the discredited dossier on Trump.

NOTHING on the investigation into the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton selling of 20 per cent of the USA's uranium to Russia via backhanders.

Instead, there are three anti-Trump stories. Says everything you need to know about the BBC's anti-Trump and anti-Republican agenda.

Edited by Penge Eagle (26 Oct 2017 9.23pm)

Attachment: bbc youtube.JPG (259.18Kb)

Hrolf The Ganger 26 Oct 17 9.26pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 It does make you question the validity of a democracy, where a man who can barely construct a coherent sentence, is elected to lead the nation. Its like a Forrest Gump for spoilt rich kids. Not really. It makes you question the calibre of candidates maybe but Trump is being subjected to the most vicious smear campaign than any President has ever suffered. If he gave away money and brought about world peace the left would be complaining. It's called an agenda. For that reason alone, my support for him has grown.

Hrolf The Ganger

26 Oct 17 9.26pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

It does make you question the validity of a democracy, where a man who can barely construct a coherent sentence, is elected to lead the nation.

Its like a Forrest Gump for spoilt rich kids.

Not really.

It makes you question the calibre of candidates maybe but Trump is being subjected to the most vicious smear campaign than any President has ever suffered.
If he gave away money and brought about world peace the left would be complaining.

It's called an agenda. For that reason alone, my support for him has grown.

Penge Eagle Beckenham 26 Oct 17 9.37pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 It does make you question the validity of a democracy, where a man who can barely construct a coherent sentence, is elected to lead the nation. Its like a Forrest Gump for spoilt rich kids. It's what you get when you put Hillary up against him. She is that bad, that corrupt and that hated. She is so deluded and might run again too! Edited by Penge Eagle (26 Oct 2017 9.40pm)

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 26 Oct 17 9.37pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

It does make you question the validity of a democracy, where a man who can barely construct a coherent sentence, is elected to lead the nation.

Its like a Forrest Gump for spoilt rich kids.

It's what you get when you put Hillary up against him. She is that bad, that corrupt and that hated. She is so deluded and might run again too!

Edited by Penge Eagle (26 Oct 2017 9.40pm)

EagleEssex Essex 27 Oct 17 1.08am
Originally posted by Penge Eagle The latest example on the BBC's YouTube page of their anti-Trump propaganda [Link] See attached screen shot. NOTHING on Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee paying for the discredited dossier on Trump. NOTHING on the investigation into the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton selling of 20 per cent of the USA's uranium to Russia via backhanders. Instead, there are three anti-Trump stories. Says everything you need to know about the BBC's anti-Trump and anti-Republican agenda. Edited by Penge Eagle (26 Oct 2017 9.23pm) Well said, fully agree

EagleEssex

Essex 27 Oct 17 1.08am

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

The latest example on the BBC's YouTube page of their anti-Trump propaganda [Link] See attached screen shot.

NOTHING on Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee paying for the discredited dossier on Trump.

NOTHING on the investigation into the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton selling of 20 per cent of the USA's uranium to Russia via backhanders.

Instead, there are three anti-Trump stories. Says everything you need to know about the BBC's anti-Trump and anti-Republican agenda.

Edited by Penge Eagle (26 Oct 2017 9.23pm)

Well said, fully agree

Stirlingsays 27 Oct 17 1.13am
Originally posted by Penge Eagle The latest example on the BBC's YouTube page of their anti-Trump propaganda [Link] See attached screen shot. NOTHING on Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee paying for the discredited dossier on Trump. NOTHING on the investigation into the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton selling of 20 per cent of the USA's uranium to Russia via backhanders. Instead, there are three anti-Trump stories. Says everything you need to know about the BBC's anti-Trump and anti-Republican agenda. Edited by Penge Eagle (26 Oct 2017 9.23pm) While I do think there is plenty to observe and criticise Trump for...like all presidents, I think you nail this. The BBC is a failure in objectivity and is openly anti Trump in a very unprofessional way. The selection bias in its reporting and manner of its reporting is way off. I've complained about this to them several times....given up now. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Oct 2017 1.15am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

27 Oct 17 1.13am

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

The latest example on the BBC's YouTube page of their anti-Trump propaganda [Link] See attached screen shot.

NOTHING on Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee paying for the discredited dossier on Trump.

NOTHING on the investigation into the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton selling of 20 per cent of the USA's uranium to Russia via backhanders.

Instead, there are three anti-Trump stories. Says everything you need to know about the BBC's anti-Trump and anti-Republican agenda.

Edited by Penge Eagle (26 Oct 2017 9.23pm)

While I do think there is plenty to observe and criticise Trump for...like all presidents, I think you nail this. The BBC is a failure in objectivity and is openly anti Trump in a very unprofessional way. The selection bias in its reporting and manner of its reporting is way off. I've complained about this to them several times....given up now.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Oct 2017 1.15am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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