As you seem incapable of responding to the content of my comments, but constantly seek to attack my character, maybe someone else could help you to find a way to concentrate on the subject under review.

Who that might be is not for me to suggest. I don't know you. I only know what you write here.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

No, what I said is that whilst there is arguing, there is no substance to the argument being pontificated by Farage and his supporters. His freedom of speech has demonstrably and unarguably not been negatively affected by this.

Coutts should be, and are, free to make whatever decision they believe to be right. Unless you believe they should be nationalised or regulated as a public utility. I don't think the financial sector would be too enthusiastic about the latter.

I have little doubt they try to exclude all the criminals you describe. That's irrelevant to also looking at other perceived risks.

I also think though that there will be many more heads rolling as they sort out the mess.

I am though doing my best to help NatWest. I have just opened a cash ISA with them as their interest rates are now the market leader.

That I agree with their position on Farage is beside the point.

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Coutts thought being associated with Farage was bad for how they might be perceived.

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I don't trust polls full stop.

You couldn't accept that the majority voted for Brexit, but now you are happy to tell us about a poll because it appears to show something you approve of.

Could it be that people are still as easily lead by propaganda as you claimed they were when they voted for Brexit.

You can't have it both ways old boy.

There are no grounds to call Brexit a failure. It's only a failure if you want to be ruled from Brussels.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (29 Jul 2023 2.44pm)

New Client "I'd like to open an account please. I'm a rich Saudi / arms dealer / money launderer / can't explain where I got my wealth from but my husband being President of his country and under investigation is purely a coincidence.

Coutt's "That'll do nicely (unless your Farage).

Actually I'm think of approaching my bank (Any UK bank) to discuss reputation risk.

Do I wish to be associated with a bank whose senior management continually flouts the law and is always being sanctioned for the FSA. *

And they have the cheek to question my reputation.

*Decades of financial scandals / money laundering / market rigging etc. etc.

Edited by Badger11 (29 Jul 2023 2.43pm)

One more point

No need to check. I know what I wrote and have said that I regarded your criticism as being pedantic as it's really obvious what was meant. There is no valid freedom of speech argument. There is merely freedom of speech arguing. As I have already explained.

With your background, you will be better able to understand the points being made and may well be correct that they will decide to revise their approach, for no other reason than the need to repair their imagine.

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'Populism is bad'....except when it agrees with me.

Apparently voting for Brexit promises like reducing immigration is pointless because the elites do what they and big business/donors want anyway, regardless of what the manifestos say.

The point of Democracy is what exactly?

It seems a bit contradictory to care about what opinion polls may say if you're an avowed opponent of populism.....but apparently that's only when it disagrees with them.

Before Johnson was elected and Brexit pushed through remainers went full in on rejecting any kind of Brexit, hard or soft. They would do anything for another vote and even worse control the campaign rules to advantage Remain...Regardless they were quite happy to completely ignore the majority who had just voted for Brexit.

Indeed, it was this undemocratic attitude that probably contributed to the 80 seat majority......People were annoyed that their vote was being played around with.

Regardless, It's a notable point that a vote on leaving the EU was ignored....despite the opinion polls at many times showing majority support for it....for 40 years.

I remember EU supporters no caring at all about opinion polls then.....just as they didn't care about majority opinions against immigration and for capital punishment....ignored for decades.

So I guess, tough cheese.

The shoe is on the other foot.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jul 2023 4.02pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Of course no need to check but you have contradicted yourself.

And you’re doing it again with your “ no valid freedom of speech “ argument- I think you’ll find there is but I don’t think you’ll bother looking because you refuse to see it. It’s just your opinion which you continue to present, incorrectly, as fact.

Old, Ungifted and White

Still you avoid answering the question of how was Farage hypocritical in relation to the Coutts affair. How have I been rude in trying to get you to answer a simple question.

Contradiction will only be seen by a pendant, to whom I have explained. Others will understand from the start what was meant.

Perhaps you would like to explain precisely which way Farage's freedom of speech has been curtailed by this event?

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.