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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 20 Jun 23 4.23pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I think we can all agree that no system is perfect. Off the top of my head, there were even problems with Utopia but I can't remember exactly what they are. I get the feeling not great on crime. And there was little about immigration.
However, I think we can also say that most Western governments continue despite the people. They rely on the fact that there won't be any revolutions: and they're right.

Utopia has neither. Who commits any crime in a perfect system? And who wants to move? No, the issue is a low customer satisfaction score on the national feedback forms consequent of the fact that it is so bl00dy dull.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 23 Jun 23 11.50am Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Weird they couldn't get a single government minister onto Question Time's Brexit special yesterday - 7 years on, and an open platform to celebrate your successes with a room full of people who voted for it, and no opposition.

I wonder why they'd all turn down such an opportunity.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 23 Jun 23 12.03pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Weird they couldn't get a single government minister onto Question Time's Brexit special yesterday - 7 years on, and an open platform to celebrate your successes with a room full of people who voted for it, and no opposition.

I wonder why they'd all turn down such an opportunity.

Brexit will be a success if the self serving globalist elites don't sabotage it on purpose.

All the things Brexit is being blamed for can easily be debunked.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 23 Jun 23 12.07pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Brexit will be a success if the self serving globalist elites don't sabotage it on purpose.

All the things Brexit is being blamed for can easily be debunked.

Of course - and if it isn't, you have your excuse ready made.

Win-win.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 23 Jun 23 12.13pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Of course - and if it isn't, you have your excuse ready made.

Win-win.

I don't need any excuses.

I will only fail if Remainers and the banks make that happen.

They are already coming out with all number of arse covering lies.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 23 Jun 23 12.17pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I don't need any excuses.

I will only fail if Remainers and the banks make that happen.

They are already coming out with all number of arse covering lies.

Someone who doesn't need any excuses generally doesn't pre-emptively offer as many excuses as they can think of.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 23 Jun 23 12.33pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Someone who doesn't need any excuses generally doesn't pre-emptively offer as many excuses as they can think of.


A bit of a daft statement.


I'm not the negative one. I believe in Brexit.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 23 Jun 23 12.33pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 23 Jun 23 9.04pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend


Germany is in recession already. This is the point and where the 'Brexit is at fault' arguements hold zero water.

But the reality is we are heading back in the EU. It is almost scary at how the ground is being prepared for Starmer to win the next GE.

A Tory Party led by a man who never won an open vote to be leader. A Tory Party who have over-seen a literal invasion of the UK's coast and have done nothing pratical to stop it, despite having a huge majority to push through anything they want to. A Tory Party who have over-seen the destruction of free-speech, the destruction of the traditional family unit. s***, these Tory arseholes have even tried to change what a man and a woman are. Peope need to wake up to just what a Conservative Government have done to this country whilst waving the flag. A far, far worse treason than anything Labour have ever done.

I actually now want Labour to win. I want them to hold a fixed referendum vote which can be boycotted en masse. I want the Tory party destroyed and replaced with a real Right-Wing movement.

The next Leave campaign is going to be about so much more than just leaving the EU again. It is truly going to be about a final effort to save the UK. It will be about decimating the Civil Service, it will be about decimating the judicary (if it even survives in its current form). It will be about ridding the institutions of every vestige of 'Progressivism',

Forget Reform. It needs to be Revolution.

And if it fails, then so what? At least we tried. Rather have that as a legacy than just surrendering.

Edited by Matov (23 Jun 2023 9.05pm)

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 23 Jun 23 10.33pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Matov


Germany is in recession already. This is the point and where the 'Brexit is at fault' arguements hold zero water.

But the reality is we are heading back in the EU. It is almost scary at how the ground is being prepared for Starmer to win the next GE.

A Tory Party led by a man who never won an open vote to be leader. A Tory Party who have over-seen a literal invasion of the UK's coast and have done nothing pratical to stop it, despite having a huge majority to push through anything they want to. A Tory Party who have over-seen the destruction of free-speech, the destruction of the traditional family unit. s***, these Tory arseholes have even tried to change what a man and a woman are. Peope need to wake up to just what a Conservative Government have done to this country whilst waving the flag. A far, far worse treason than anything Labour have ever done.

I actually now want Labour to win. I want them to hold a fixed referendum vote which can be boycotted en masse. I want the Tory party destroyed and replaced with a real Right-Wing movement.

The next Leave campaign is going to be about so much more than just leaving the EU again. It is truly going to be about a final effort to save the UK. It will be about decimating the Civil Service, it will be about decimating the judicary (if it even survives in its current form). It will be about ridding the institutions of every vestige of 'Progressivism',

Forget Reform. It needs to be Revolution.

And if it fails, then so what? At least we tried. Rather have that as a legacy than just surrendering.

Edited by Matov (23 Jun 2023 9.05pm)

Don’t worry. It won’t fail.

It won’t even get off the ground. It will just create heat and anger in tiny pockets on the internet which will dissipate completely in the light of people’s daily struggles to keep their heads above water.

I think the Tories will split with the right linking with and boosting Reform and the centre remaining in control. PR follows. We are destined for a succession of coalitions of the centre parties, with Reform having a handful of seats and able to make a lot of noise.

 


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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 25 Jun 23 9.43am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Don’t worry. It won’t fail.

It won’t even get off the ground. It will just create heat and anger in tiny pockets on the internet which will dissipate completely in the light of people’s daily struggles to keep their heads above water.

I think the Tories will split with the right linking with and boosting Reform and the centre remaining in control. PR follows. We are destined for a succession of coalitions of the centre parties, with Reform having a handful of seats and able to make a lot of noise.

I.e. no different from most of our neighbours.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 25 Jun 23 11.42am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

I.e. no different from most of our neighbours.

The EU describes half of it as Neo-Fascism.

 


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