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matt_himself Flag Matataland 18 Jul 17 4.19pm

Originally posted by pefwin

You don't mean Matt? He could not count to 22 without taking his shoes off.

And you have the nerve to call me 'King Troll'.

If you didn't want a response, why would you reference me in a post that has nothing to do with me, hypocrite?

 


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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 18 Jul 17 4.27pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

And you have the nerve to call me 'King Troll'.

If you didn't want a response, why would you reference me in a post that has nothing to do with me, hypocrite?

No not at all you are "matt_himself" the reflective cognoscenti poster not that moron called "Matt".

 


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matt_himself Flag Matataland 18 Jul 17 4.50pm

Originally posted by pefwin

No not at all you are "matt_himself" the reflective cognoscenti poster not that moron called "Matt".

Troll and, why do I keep saying this, you aren't as funny as you think you are.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself Flag Matataland 25 Jul 17 9.36pm

Angela Rayner gets savaged by Piers Morgan over the student debt 'ambition':

[Link]

It is dreadful behaviour from Labour, making out they will 'deal with' student debt before the election and then u-turning afterwards stating it is an 'ambition'. Lots of people voted for them on the assumption that they would write off student debt.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 25 Jul 17 10.13pm

'Labour will reintroduce maintenance grants for university students, and we will abolish university tuition fees'.

That is what the labour manifesto actually states.

Jeremy Corbyn has been consistent in my view no pledge was made to write-off student debts at all.


 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Jul 17 10.51pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Angela Rayner gets savaged by Piers Morgan over the student debt 'ambition':

[Link]

It is dreadful behaviour from Labour, making out they will 'deal with' student debt before the election and then u-turning afterwards stating it is an 'ambition'. Lots of people voted for them on the assumption that they would write off student debt.

It's deflection from the fact there's only one party that have reneged on manifesto promises.

The fact they're continuing to equate 'look into' the issue of those that have already paid tuition fees to 'promising to repay them' and that they are not the same thing is neither here nor there with you is it?

 

Stirlingsays Flag 25 Jul 17 11.02pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

It's deflection from the fact there's only one party that have reneged on manifesto promises.

The fact they're continuing to equate 'look into' the issue of those that have already paid tuition fees to 'promising to repay them' and that they are not the same thing is neither here nor there with you is it?

Give a 'feel good' impression to create good publicity and then later on the reality comes out that's it's all noise with no substance.

I think if May had done this you'd be all over it like brass at a bank trader's night party.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Jul 17 11.32pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Give a 'feel good' impression to create good publicity and then later on the reality comes out that's it's all noise with no substance.

I think if May had done this you'd be all over it like brass at a bank trader's night party.


What Corbyn was quoted as saying is this:

“Yes, there is a block of those that currently have a massive debt, and I’m looking at ways that we could reduce that, ameliorate that, lengthen the period of paying it off, or some other means of reducing that debt burden.”

Now other ministers may have muddied the waters a bit with what they've said, but Corbyn in no way promised to wipe student debt for those that paid tuition fees. Some of the media and others - sir Alan Sugar has tweeted that Corbyn should resign over the issue - are still hawking the Corbyn goes back on promise s***e..

Thing is, I'd imagine that those affected don't read the media that are lying about ty Corbyn anyway.

 

Jamesey Flag Wandsworth 25 Jul 17 11.37pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Angela Rayner gets savaged by Piers Morgan over the student debt 'ambition':

[Link]

It is dreadful behaviour from Labour, making out they will 'deal with' student debt before the election and then u-turning afterwards stating it is an 'ambition'. Lots of people voted for them on the assumption that they would write off student debt.

Some of them at least six times each...ah, democracy is increasingly being perverted by left-wing factions as ever.

 


Nothing is fool-proof - fools are too ingenious

Stirlingsays Flag 25 Jul 17 11.41pm

Originally posted by nickgusset


What Corbyn was quoted as saying is this:

“Yes, there is a block of those that currently have a massive debt, and I’m looking at ways that we could reduce that, ameliorate that, lengthen the period of paying it off, or some other means of reducing that debt burden.”

Now other ministers may have muddied the waters a bit with what they've said, but Corbyn in no way promised to wipe student debt for those that paid tuition fees. Some of the media and others - sir Alan Sugar has tweeted that Corbyn should resign over the issue - are still hawking the Corbyn goes back on promise s***e..

Thing is, I'd imagine that those affected don't read the media that are lying about ty Corbyn anyway.

Well of course his political opponents are looking to make capital over his 'feel good' waffle....Because that's what it was Nick.

'Looking at ways to reduce that'..... We are talking about 60 billion to a 100 billion here....He was waffling.

Still so what....I didn't criticise him....This is what politicians do.....I was just highlighting the fact that if May had done this you'd have been doing what Corbyn's opponents are doing now.

So moaning about them being unreasonable and disfiguring the meaning of comments....is in a sense moaning about yourself.


Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Jul 2017 11.42pm)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 25 Jul 17 11.41pm

Originally posted by Jamesey

Some of them at least six times each...ah, democracy is increasingly being perverted by left-wing factions as ever.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Jul 17 11.49pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well of course his political opponents are looking to make capital over his 'feel good' waffle....Because that's what it was Nick.

'Looking at ways to reduce that'..... We are talking about 60 billion to a 100 billion here....He was waffling.

Still so what....I didn't criticise him....This is what politicians do.....I was just highlighting the fact that if May had done this you'd have been doing what Corbyn's opponents are doing now.

So moaning about them being unreasonable and disfiguring the meaning of comments....is in a sense moaning about yourself.


Examples?

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Jul 2017 11.42pm)

The national media are Corbyn's political opponents. At last the penny has dropped!


 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Jul 17 11.52pm

Edited by nickgusset (25 Jul 2017 11.55pm)

 

Stirlingsays Flag 26 Jul 17 12.17am

Quite a few are expecting a reduction though....Essentially he made a misleading statement. I don't know why you are fighting this battle.....it's no big deal...I think he genuinely would like to do something....I'll give him that.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Jul 2017 1.21am)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 26 Jul 17 12.22am

Originally posted by nickgusset

The national media are Corbyn's political opponents. At last the penny has dropped!


Some of it is yeah. I'm an opponent of his.....What's wrong with being against Corbyn if it's a private company?

Do you moan about the Guardian being for Corbyn? The Mirror being for Corbyn? Newsnight are a bunch of lefties too and I'm having to pay for their bias along with everyone else.

It's the marketplace of ideas not some equality seminar. If his ideas are popular they will gain traction. I'm not sure what you want.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Jul 2017 12.30am)

 


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matt_himself Flag Matataland 26 Jul 17 5.53am

Some members of Labours front bench clearly thought 'wiping student debt' was Labour Policy:

[Link]

If frontbench members of a party cannot understand their party's policy's correctly, how can the rest of us be expected to do so?

Shambles.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself Flag Matataland 26 Jul 17 5.57am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Quite a few are expecting a reduction though....Essentially he made a misleading statement. I don't know why you are fighting this battle.....it's no big deal...I think he genuinely would like to do something....I'll give him that.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Jul 2017 1.21am)

It is a big deal. If they garnered votes through deceit or stupidity or misinformation then it needs to be addressed.

The Bremoaners bang on about how the public were 'misled' over the NHS spending pledge during the referendum. How is this different?

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 26 Jul 17 9.25am

'Labour will reintroduce maintenance grants for university students, and we will abolish university tuition fees'.

That is what the labour manifesto actually states.

Jeremy Corbyn has been consistent in my view no pledge was made to write-off student debts at all.

Will be interesting to see what the next manifesto says hope they come up with something feasible.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 26 Jul 17 12.28pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Will be interesting to see what the next manifesto says hope they come up with something feasible.

That last sentence caused me much mirth and merriment. Thank you.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

matt_himself Flag Matataland 31 Jul 17 11.55am

Corbyn has praised Venezuela:

[Link]

People, this is Venezuela:

[Link]

Scary.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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