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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Was always highly unlikely to be selected. As you say any change like that needs to be properly debated. LBC are saying they may still try through the Lords when the bill goes there. I hope the Lords resist the temptation their reason for existing is to take a step back and take a long hard look at legislation. I'm not in favour of either amendment but I could be persuaded I just don't like being bounced into it.
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
You can definitely be old and gullible. It's by no means age exclusive. That is a disingenuous remark.
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Do or die! Come what may! Dead in a ditch! Brexit officially extended to 2020. What cross between a retarded sheep and a village idiot lemming amongst you can possibly think Boris Johnson has any shred of credibility left, and still support the bloody fool? Even the most stupid of remoaners can see it was to to do with negotiation, what's your excuse?
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Originally posted by Badger11
As I predicted the opposition are trying to tack on reducing the voting age to 16 and also including EU citizens. This is a terrible idea and shows us just how far this Parliament has sunk into stupidity. Both of these are major constitutional changes. Where was the debate? where was the public campaign? What are the nuances? I said that the courts should not have interfered in politics for the same reason that Parliament should not be making these changes under these circumstances. We need calm heads and clear minds to look at all this stuff, take advice from constitutional experts, listen to the public and come to a decision. It's a joke that this Parliament which has loudly proclaimed that it needs more time to study Boris' deal I hope they fail.
Almost exactly my words to Mrs YT when I heard this on the news, plus a few effs and blinds thrown in. The hypocrisy of MPs is staggering (as if we didn't know that already).
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Do or die! Come what may! Dead in a ditch! Brexit officially extended to 2020. What cross between a retarded sheep and a village idiot lemming amongst you can possibly think Boris Johnson has any shred of credibility left, and still support the bloody fool?
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
All you are doing is repeating, parrot like, the same tired old phrases I have heard in the UK and elsewhere around the world, for the past 60 years about immigration. The world has changed and as part of the world we are impacted by those changes. My own parents held these types of views but as they were unworldly and not particularly well educated I could both understand why and forgave them. What's your excuse? Oh the irony!!
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
You can definitely be old and gullible. It's by no means age exclusive. Leaving aside whether a 16yo is capable of making a rational choice there are other considerations. If at 16yo you are adult enough to vote then the criminal justice system should treat you as an adult and not as a child. It hardly seems fair that a 16yo gets all the perks of being an adult but none of the responsibilities.
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Originally posted by Badger11
As I predicted the opposition are trying to tack on reducing the voting age to 16 and also including EU citizens.
A fact for you. Irish citizens can vote in a UK referendum but UK citizens cannot vote in an Irish referendum.
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Originally posted by corkery
A fact for you. Irish citizens can vote in a UK referendum but UK citizens cannot vote in an Irish referendum. Thanks I did not know that. Before we rush off and give the vote to other EU citizens someone might want to check how expats are treated in the rest of the EU.
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Originally posted by Badger11
Thanks I did not know that. Before we rush off and give the vote to other EU citizens someone might want to check how expats are treated in the rest of the EU.
Well I can tell you how it is in France: we can vote in local council and European elections and that’s it. We have no vote in governmental or presidential matters.
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Originally posted by palace_in_frogland
Well I can tell you how it is in France: we can vote in local council and European elections and that’s it. We have no vote in governmental or presidential matters. You can vote in government elections if you take up french citizenship after the five year qualifying period.
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
What cross between a retarded sheep and a village idiot lemming amongst you can possibly think Boris Johnson has any shred of credibility left, and still support the bloody fool? Me for starters
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