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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 10 Sep 17 3.23am
Originally posted by hedgehog50 He campaigned to stay in while wanting to leave - how he be described as an honest politician? Or are you seriously going to tell us he genuinely changed his mind? Could it be possible that a politician put personal beliefs to one side to support the party decision? You know like how the system is supposed to work.. If Labour went anti-brexit in their manifesto, you'd be the first on here slating Corbyn for being undemocratic and ignoring the electorate. Lose lose, as it's designed to be for him.

EverybodyDannsNow

SE19 10 Sep 17 3.23am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

He campaigned to stay in while wanting to leave - how he be described as an honest politician? Or are you seriously going to tell us he genuinely changed his mind?

Could it be possible that a politician put personal beliefs to one side to support the party decision? You know like how the system is supposed to work..

If Labour went anti-brexit in their manifesto, you'd be the first on here slating Corbyn for being undemocratic and ignoring the electorate.

Lose lose, as it's designed to be for him.

hedgehog50 Croydon 10 Sep 17 8.11am
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow Could it be possible that a politician put personal beliefs to one side to support the party decision? You know like how the system is supposed to work.. If Labour went anti-brexit in their manifesto, you'd be the first on here slating Corbyn for being undemocratic and ignoring the electorate. Lose lose, as it's designed to be for him. If he is so 'honest', why doesn't he tell us that? We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 10 Sep 17 8.11am

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Could it be possible that a politician put personal beliefs to one side to support the party decision? You know like how the system is supposed to work..

If Labour went anti-brexit in their manifesto, you'd be the first on here slating Corbyn for being undemocratic and ignoring the electorate.

Lose lose, as it's designed to be for him.

If he is so 'honest', why doesn't he tell us that?

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

serial thriller The Promised Land 10 Sep 17 9.37am
Originally posted by steeleye20 Much to like about Jeremy but he did not seize on brexit as the issue of the day. Tony Blair would have and would have won the general election IMHO. Yeah but watching Blair on the tele today, can anyone honestly say they'd rather have him in charge of the Labour party than Corbyn? He's so slimey that i thought he was gonna start shedding his skin on the sofa. If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

serial thriller

The Promised Land 10 Sep 17 9.37am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Much to like about Jeremy but he did not seize on brexit as the issue of the day.

Tony Blair would have and would have won the general election IMHO.

Yeah but watching Blair on the tele today, can anyone honestly say they'd rather have him in charge of the Labour party than Corbyn? He's so slimey that i thought he was gonna start shedding his skin on the sofa.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

Hrolf The Ganger 10 Sep 17 11.40am
Originally posted by nickgusset What do you think is factually incorrect in the piece then? You aren't interested in debate, juat campaigning. All I hear is an irritating drone.

Hrolf The Ganger

10 Sep 17 11.40am

Originally posted by nickgusset

What do you think is factually incorrect in the piece then?

You aren't interested in debate, juat campaigning.

All I hear is an irritating drone.

steeleye20 Croydon 10 Sep 17 11.45am
Originally posted by serial thriller Yeah but watching Blair on the tele today, can anyone honestly say they'd rather have him in charge of the Labour party than Corbyn? He's so slimey that i thought he was gonna start shedding his skin on the sofa. What TB is suggesting, EU people to have a job offer and to register is quite straight forward. However that is for a job, to move here and live here is not a good idea for an EU person. You could be here for many years consider yourself at home but you are not,actually non-EU people as well. You will be surprised how easily you can end up in one of Mrs May's holding centres forgotten alone possibly suicidal.

steeleye20

Croydon 10 Sep 17 11.45am

Originally posted by serial thriller

What TB is suggesting, EU people to have a job offer and to register is quite straight forward.

However that is for a job, to move here and live here is not a good idea for an EU person.

You could be here for many years consider yourself at home but you are not,actually non-EU people as well.

You will be surprised how easily you can end up in one of Mrs May's holding centres forgotten alone possibly suicidal.

matt_himself Matataland 13 Sep 17 6.13am
A labour controlled council in dispute with its bin men: [Link] This is an example of Jezza's 'dialogue based' resolutions - sit on your hands and do nothing. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 13 Sep 17 6.13am

A labour controlled council in dispute with its bin men:

[Link]

This is an example of Jezza's 'dialogue based' resolutions - sit on your hands and do nothing.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

simlaboy coulsdon 13 Sep 17 12.28pm
At PMQ, doesn't welcome a fall in unemployment ,

simlaboy

coulsdon 13 Sep 17 12.28pm

At PMQ, doesn't welcome a fall in unemployment ,

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 22 Oct 17 9.16am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger It's OK. We wont be talking about him after June 8th... unless he brings out a new book on man hole covers. How wrong you were.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 22 Oct 17 9.16am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It's OK. We wont be talking about him after June 8th... unless he brings out a new book on man hole covers.

How wrong you were.

Hrolf The Ganger 22 Oct 17 11.56am
Originally posted by nickgusset How wrong you were. AS I have said. I find your loyalty to Corbyn and your obsession with party politics quite disturbing. You are a man approaching his fifties still acting like a 20 year old and actually believing a word that politicians say. You can't seriously believe that Corbyn will 'save' us can you? THe state of the Labour party these days is almost pitiful.

Hrolf The Ganger

22 Oct 17 11.56am

Originally posted by nickgusset

How wrong you were.

AS I have said. I find your loyalty to Corbyn and your obsession with party politics quite disturbing.

You are a man approaching his fifties still acting like a 20 year old and actually believing a word that politicians say.

You can't seriously believe that Corbyn will 'save' us can you? THe state of the Labour party these days is almost pitiful.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 22 Oct 17 12.05pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger AS I have said. I find your loyalty to Corbyn and your obsession with party politics quite disturbing. You are a man approaching his fifties still acting like a 20 year old and actually believing a word that politicians say. You can't seriously believe that Corbyn will 'save' us can you? THe state of the Labour party these days is almost pitiful. Head in the sand. You said he would disappear. He's actually got stronger. You say the state of the Labour party is pitiful yet they are increasing their lead in the polls. You were so so wrong but would rather continue to make yerself look a right numpty. Still if that's the bed you've chosen to lie in.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 22 Oct 17 12.05pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

AS I have said. I find your loyalty to Corbyn and your obsession with party politics quite disturbing.

You are a man approaching his fifties still acting like a 20 year old and actually believing a word that politicians say.

You can't seriously believe that Corbyn will 'save' us can you? THe state of the Labour party these days is almost pitiful.

Head in the sand. You said he would disappear. He's actually got stronger.
You say the state of the Labour party is pitiful yet they are increasing their lead in the polls.

You were so so wrong but would rather continue to make yerself look a right numpty.
Still if that's the bed you've chosen to lie in.

Hrolf The Ganger 22 Oct 17 12.19pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Head in the sand. You said he would disappear. He's actually got stronger. You say the state of the Labour party is pitiful yet they are increasing their lead in the polls. You were so so wrong but would rather continue to make yerself look a right numpty. Still if that's the bed you've chosen to lie in. I am happy being a numpty if being like you is the alternative. I'm off to the real world.

Hrolf The Ganger

22 Oct 17 12.19pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Head in the sand. You said he would disappear. He's actually got stronger.
You say the state of the Labour party is pitiful yet they are increasing their lead in the polls.

You were so so wrong but would rather continue to make yerself look a right numpty.
Still if that's the bed you've chosen to lie in.

I am happy being a numpty if being like you is the alternative.

I'm off to the real world.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 22 Oct 17 12.36pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I am happy being a numpty if being like you is the alternative. I'm off to the real world. Is that the one where the country is going to rack and ruin because of Tory policy a.nd s***e brexitness?

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 22 Oct 17 12.36pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I am happy being a numpty if being like you is the alternative.

I'm off to the real world.

Is that the one where the country is going to rack and ruin because of Tory policy a.nd s***e brexitness?

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 25 Oct 17 6.49pm
Corbyn is getting better and better at PMQ's. Another U turn today from the Tories. Who'd have thought it, a labour opposition lead by Corbyn that is in effect dictating government policy. Marvellous.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 25 Oct 17 6.49pm

Corbyn is getting better and better at PMQ's.
Another U turn today from the Tories. Who'd have thought it, a labour opposition lead by Corbyn that is in effect dictating government policy.

Marvellous.

steeleye20 Croydon 25 Oct 17 7.38pm
Perhaps that is the plan. Why vote Corbyn, we are here doing his policies anyway.

steeleye20

Croydon 25 Oct 17 7.38pm

Perhaps that is the plan.

Why vote Corbyn, we are here doing his policies anyway.

tome Inner Tantalus Time. 25 Oct 17 9.51pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger AS I have said. I find your loyalty to Corbyn and your obsession with party politics quite disturbing. You are a man approaching his fifties still acting like a 20 year old and actually believing a word that politicians say. You can't seriously believe that Corbyn will 'save' us can you? THe state of the Labour party these days is almost pitiful. Not sure any politician will save us, though if we could have some sort of centrist revolution a la Macron in France there might be some optimism. As it is the country is still tottering towards the Brexit cliff-edge like a sonambulating drunkard dreaming of the beach. The extent of change that Corbyn proposes is going to be pretty challenging to implement even if he win an election, even more so if we're already over the edge by then. A one and a two...

tome

Inner Tantalus Time. 25 Oct 17 9.51pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

AS I have said. I find your loyalty to Corbyn and your obsession with party politics quite disturbing.

You are a man approaching his fifties still acting like a 20 year old and actually believing a word that politicians say.

You can't seriously believe that Corbyn will 'save' us can you? THe state of the Labour party these days is almost pitiful.

Not sure any politician will save us, though if we could have some sort of centrist revolution a la Macron in France there might be some optimism.

As it is the country is still tottering towards the Brexit cliff-edge like a sonambulating drunkard dreaming of the beach. The extent of change that Corbyn proposes is going to be pretty challenging to implement even if he win an election, even more so if we're already over the edge by then.

A one and a two...

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 25 Oct 17 10.23pm
Originally posted by tome Not sure any politician will save us, though if we could have some sort of centrist revolution a la Macron in France there might be some optimism. As it is the country is still tottering towards the Brexit cliff-edge like a sonambulating drunkard dreaming of the beach. The extent of change that Corbyn proposes is going to be pretty challenging to implement even if he win an election, even more so if we're already over the edge by then. Have a read of this heavily biased article. Raises some good points. [Link]

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 25 Oct 17 10.23pm

Originally posted by tome

Not sure any politician will save us, though if we could have some sort of centrist revolution a la Macron in France there might be some optimism.

Have a read of this heavily biased article. Raises some good points. [Link]

cryrst The garden of England 25 Oct 17 10.47pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Head in the sand. You said he would disappear. He's actually got stronger. You say the state of the Labour party is pitiful yet they are increasing their lead in the polls. You were so so wrong but would rather continue to make yerself look a right numpty. Still if that's the bed you've chosen to lie in. This is the same nick who I replied to in another thread on here. The nick that has a perception that only people on benefits have no money to fall back on if hard times hit. The same Nick that believes people not on benefits are rich beyond HIS wildest dreams. Get a life and reality check nick You probably have a paid up house, a new car and a great pension as you are a state worker. You are a numpty with only one vision and opinion. YOURS

cryrst

The garden of England 25 Oct 17 10.47pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Head in the sand. You said he would disappear. He's actually got stronger.
You say the state of the Labour party is pitiful yet they are increasing their lead in the polls.

You were so so wrong but would rather continue to make yerself look a right numpty.
Still if that's the bed you've chosen to lie in.

This is the same nick who I replied to in another thread on here.
The nick that has a perception that only people on benefits have no money to fall back on if hard times hit.
The same Nick that believes people not on benefits are rich beyond HIS wildest dreams.
Get a life and reality check nick
You probably have a paid up house, a new car and a great pension as you are a state worker.
You are a numpty with only one vision and opinion.
YOURS

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 25 Oct 17 11.29pm
Originally posted by cryrst This is the same nick who I replied to in another thread on here. The nick that has a perception that only people on benefits have no money to fall back on if hard times hit. The same Nick that believes people not on benefits are rich beyond HIS wildest dreams. Get a life and reality check nick You probably have a paid up house, a new car and a great pension as you are a state worker. You are a numpty with only one vision and opinion. YOURS Let's unpick this pile of w*** shall we... The nick that has a perception that only people on benefits have no money to fall back on if hard times hit. Where did I say that. Don't make up bulls**. that's not debating. I'm fully aware of the amount of people who have less than £100 in their bank accounts, for who a broken down car , washing machine that needs fixing puts untold pressure on a rising household budget . Wage increases have been no where near inflation. Even TM herself acknowledged the JAM's before making their lives more miserable. The same Nick that believes people not on benefits are rich beyond HIS wildest dreams.* Where did I say that. Don't make up bulls**. that's not debating. I'm not on benefits, but am on a zero hours contract. It used to be a full time salaried position but the academy I work for can't afford that. I tutor kids to ill to go to school. If they pull out of a session, I don't get paid. Do you know what it's like to not know how much you are going to earn week to week? Wages are too low and the cost of living, particularly housing is beyond ridiculous at the moment. People want to buy a house but can't afford the deposit. Added to that, how many households haven't been caught in the debt trap? Get a life and reality check nick* Really? You probably have a paid up house, a new car and a great pension as you are a state worker. I wish! My jam jar cost £400, I've got a mortgage You are a numpty with only one vision and opinion. You are a numpty for putting words into my mouth. Edited by nickgusset (25 Oct 2017 11.30pm)

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 25 Oct 17 11.29pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Let's unpick this pile of w*** shall we...

The nick that has a perception that only people on benefits have no money to fall back on if hard times hit. Where did I say that. Don't make up bulls***. that's not debating. I'm fully aware of the amount of people who have less than £100 in their bank accounts, for who a broken down car , washing machine that needs fixing puts untold pressure on a rising household budget . Wage increases have been no where near inflation. Even TM herself acknowledged the JAM's before making their lives more miserable.
The same Nick that believes people not on benefits are rich beyond HIS wildest dreams. Where did I say that. Don't make up bulls***. that's not debating.
I'm not on benefits, but am on a zero hours contract. It used to be a full time salaried position but the academy I work for can't afford that. I tutor kids to ill to go to school. If they pull out of a session, I don't get paid. Do you know what it's like to not know how much you are going to earn week to week? Wages are too low and the cost of living, particularly housing is beyond ridiculous at the moment. People want to buy a house but can't afford the deposit. Added to that, how many households haven't been caught in the debt trap?
Get a life and reality check nick Really?
You probably have a paid up house, a new car and a great pension as you are a state worker. I wish! My jam jar cost £400, I've got a mortgage
You are a numpty with only one vision and opinion.
You are a numpty for putting words into my mouth.

Edited by nickgusset (25 Oct 2017 11.30pm)

cryrst The garden of England 25 Oct 17 11.46pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Let's unpick this pile of w*** shall we... The nick that has a perception that only people on benefits have no money to fall back on if hard times hit. Where did I say that. Don't make up bulls**. that's not debating. I'm fully aware of the amount of people who have less than £100 in their bank accounts, for who a broken down car , washing machine that needs fixing puts untold pressure on a rising household budget . Wage increases have been no where near inflation. Even TM herself acknowledged the JAM's before making their lives more miserable. The same Nick that believes people not on benefits are rich beyond HIS wildest dreams.* Where did I say that. Don't make up bulls**. that's not debating. I'm not on benefits, but am on a zero hours contract. It used to be a full time salaried position but the academy I work for can't afford that. I tutor kids to ill to go to school. If they pull out of a session, I don't get paid. Do you know what it's like to not know how much you are going to earn week to week? Wages are too low and the cost of living, particularly housing is beyond ridiculous at the moment. People want to buy a house but can't afford the deposit. Added to that, how many households haven't been caught in the debt trap? Get a life and reality check nick* Really? You probably have a paid up house, a new car and a great pension as you are a state worker. I wish! My jam jar cost £400, I've got a mortgage You are a numpty with only one vision and opinion. You are a numpty for putting words into my mouth. Edited by nickgusset (25 Oct 2017 11.30pm) Yup apologies my mistake nick It was in a thread about universal credit and you appeared a few times. I'm big enough to admit it.

cryrst

The garden of England 25 Oct 17 11.46pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Let's unpick this pile of w*** shall we...

Edited by nickgusset (25 Oct 2017 11.30pm)

Yup apologies my mistake nick
It was in a thread about universal credit and you appeared a few times.
I'm big enough to admit it.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 25 Oct 17 11.59pm
Originally posted by cryrst Yup apologies my mistake nick It was in a thread about universal credit and you appeared a few times. I'm big enough to admit it. Fair play.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 25 Oct 17 11.59pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Yup apologies my mistake nick
It was in a thread about universal credit and you appeared a few times.
I'm big enough to admit it.

Fair play.

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