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sydtheeagle Flag England 02 Oct 15 8.28pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Quote pefwin at 02 Oct 2015 8.02pm

Yeah but can anyone put the ball in straight?

No, and furthermore they don't even try. When you have a hooker who can't hook (like Tom Youngs) the 9 pretty much feeds straight into the second row these days. In fact, he does it even if he has a hooker who can hook. For whatever reason, it's simply something that refs have ceased to police anymore. I suspect that this will soon change (unlike football, rugby rules tend to evolve season-by-season) but it's a great pity now because the art of hooking has been somewhat lost and hookers who are good in the loose (again, like Tom Youngs) gain reputations despite the fact that they lack the core skill of their position. The focus on the front three is really now on disrupting the other side rather than overtly winning the ball and on the rare occasions a scrum is won against the head, it's usually the result of overpowering the side with the ball rather than hooking technique. The focus on disruption is really why the Tight Head has become probably the second most important player in rugby after the out half. If he doesn't do his job, the ball never gets back to 10.

 


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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 02 Oct 15 9.35pm Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Quote sydtheeagle at 02 Oct 2015 8.28pm

Quote pefwin at 02 Oct 2015 8.02pm

Yeah but can anyone put the ball in straight?

No, and furthermore they don't even try. When you have a hooker who can't hook (like Tom Youngs) the 9 pretty much feeds straight into the second row these days. In fact, he does it even if he has a hooker who can hook. For whatever reason, it's simply something that refs have ceased to police anymore. I suspect that this will soon change (unlike football, rugby rules tend to evolve season-by-season) but it's a great pity now because the art of hooking has been somewhat lost and hookers who are good in the loose (again, like Tom Youngs) gain reputations despite the fact that they lack the core skill of their position. The focus on the front three is really now on disrupting the other side rather than overtly winning the ball and on the rare occasions a scrum is won against the head, it's usually the result of overpowering the side with the ball rather than hooking technique. The focus on disruption is really why the Tight Head has become probably the second most important player in rugby after the out half. If he doesn't do his job, the ball never gets back to 10.

Scrums are so low now it is impossible for the hookers to actually hook the ball if it is put in straight. After last seasons change of rule Scrums have got better but there's still too many calls where the ref is at best making an educated guess.

 


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Hoof Hearted 03 Oct 15 10.49am

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 02 Oct 2015 9.35pm

Quote sydtheeagle at 02 Oct 2015 8.28pm

Quote pefwin at 02 Oct 2015 8.02pm

Yeah but can anyone put the ball in straight?

No, and furthermore they don't even try. When you have a hooker who can't hook (like Tom Youngs) the 9 pretty much feeds straight into the second row these days. In fact, he does it even if he has a hooker who can hook. For whatever reason, it's simply something that refs have ceased to police anymore. I suspect that this will soon change (unlike football, rugby rules tend to evolve season-by-season) but it's a great pity now because the art of hooking has been somewhat lost and hookers who are good in the loose (again, like Tom Youngs) gain reputations despite the fact that they lack the core skill of their position. The focus on the front three is really now on disrupting the other side rather than overtly winning the ball and on the rare occasions a scrum is won against the head, it's usually the result of overpowering the side with the ball rather than hooking technique. The focus on disruption is really why the Tight Head has become probably the second most important player in rugby after the out half. If he doesn't do his job, the ball never gets back to 10.

Scrums are so low now it is impossible for the hookers to actually hook the ball if it is put in straight. After last seasons change of rule Scrums have got better but there's still too many calls where the ref is at best making an educated guess.


When was the last time a ball was put in straight? LOL

I agree about the referee guessing though.

 

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sydtheeagle Flag England 03 Oct 15 10.56am Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 02 Oct 2015 9.35pm

Scrums are so low now

Not when Gethin's propping :-)

 


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johnno42000 Flag 03 Oct 15 2.46pm Send a Private Message to johnno42000 Add johnno42000 as a friend

Interesting article from an ex-ref how he viewed the scrums between Wales and Fiji. Things have really changed since I played. [Link]

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 Oct 15 3.39pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

I can't say anything meaningful - all I can say is Come on England!!!

I will never hear the end of it in Ireland if England go out - and God forbid, dare I even post it, Ireland win.

St George, Agincourt, Waterloo, Trafalgar and everything else today.

 


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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 03 Oct 15 8.09pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 03 Oct 2015 10.49am

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 02 Oct 2015 9.35pm

Quote sydtheeagle at 02 Oct 2015 8.28pm

Quote pefwin at 02 Oct 2015 8.02pm

Yeah but can anyone put the ball in straight?

No, and furthermore they don't even try. When you have a hooker who can't hook (like Tom Youngs) the 9 pretty much feeds straight into the second row these days. In fact, he does it even if he has a hooker who can hook. For whatever reason, it's simply something that refs have ceased to police anymore. I suspect that this will soon change (unlike football, rugby rules tend to evolve season-by-season) but it's a great pity now because the art of hooking has been somewhat lost and hookers who are good in the loose (again, like Tom Youngs) gain reputations despite the fact that they lack the core skill of their position. The focus on the front three is really now on disrupting the other side rather than overtly winning the ball and on the rare occasions a scrum is won against the head, it's usually the result of overpowering the side with the ball rather than hooking technique. The focus on disruption is really why the Tight Head has become probably the second most important player in rugby after the out half. If he doesn't do his job, the ball never gets back to 10.

Scrums are so low now it is impossible for the hookers to actually hook the ball if it is put in straight. After last seasons change of rule Scrums have got better but there's still too many calls where the ref is at best making an educated guess.


When was the last time a ball was put in straight? LOL

I agree about the referee guessing though.

That's the point that's the rules.

Put in straight and suddenly some of the issues around scrummaging disappear.

If we follow the Antipodeans soon we will allow the forward pass.

 


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oldcodger Flag 03 Oct 15 8.14pm Send a Private Message to oldcodger Add oldcodger as a friend

Quote ASCPFC at 03 Oct 2015 3.39pm

I can't say anything meaningful - all I can say is Come on England!!!

I will never hear the end of it in Ireland if England go out - and God forbid, dare I even post it, Ireland win.

St George, Agincourt, Waterloo, Trafalgar and everything else today.


Haha

 

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jeeagles Flag 03 Oct 15 8.46pm

England are deffinately out then. This is pathetic

 

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The Sash Flag Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 03 Oct 15 8.46pm Send a Private Message to The Sash Add The Sash as a friend

England currently being butchered by a good Australian side.

They are sharper, quicker, they create options and execute and make very few errors

Everything this England team arent they are.

Pocock head and shoulders.

Edited by The Sash (03 Oct 2015 8.50pm)

 


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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 03 Oct 15 8.57pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

World champions at singing anthems, world chumpions at game discipline

 


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The Sash Flag Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 03 Oct 15 9.12pm Send a Private Message to The Sash Add The Sash as a friend

Getting murdered, you need a spark so you bring Wiggles on....

 


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