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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 10 Jun 17 4.04am |
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Originally posted by Willo
Not lies at all. What was lies was telling the electorate that they could spend £48Billion whilst recouping it from just 5% of the population and a 19-26% increase in 'Corporation Tax'.A plethora of pledges which they knew they could not honour.Economic chaos. I wish some of our 'Big Hitters' had concentrated on this during the campaign.Fantasy economics just weren't really exposed. was the cameron, osborne and boris uber corruption story in the daily mail true to then willo?
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 Farawayeagle  Sydney 10 Jun 17 6.23am |
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Originally posted by pefwin
I doubt that has entered Teri May's beautiful political mind. I spoke with my family members and friends yesterday None them are bothered. They believe the British government of whatever hue are not sympathetic to Unionists. The power sharing agreement is an issue for Stormont to sort out. People in NI will be more interested in issues related to Brexit such as the border control situation and the economics of the exit. The terrorist mob are not the majority of the population. I was there last year and the vast majority of people I met were
Association R.I.P. DJ Hardline -- Gone Way Too Soon GKAS Member 54 |
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| Farawayeagle Sydney 10 Jun 17 6.24am |
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Originally posted by Farawayeagle
I spoke with my family members and friends yesterday None them are bothered. They believe the British government of whatever hue are more sympathetic to Unionists. The power sharing agreement is an issue for Stormont to sort out. People in NI will be more interested in issues related to Brexit such as the border control situation and the economics of the exit. The terrorist mob are not the majority of the population. I was there last year and the vast majority of people I met were
Association R.I.P. DJ Hardline -- Gone Way Too Soon GKAS Member 54 |
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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 10 Jun 17 9.04am |
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I'm beginning to think that no Theresa May is better than a bad Theresa May.
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| Sportyteacher London 10 Jun 17 9.30am |
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Originally posted by corkery
The DUP, haircuts from the 1960s and brains from the 1690s. After months of calling Corbyn a terrorist sympathiser, they go in with the DUP... Edited by corkery (10 Jun 2017 12.11am) Brilliant! There's Theresa banging on about not wanting to send our country back to the 1970s only to succeed in taking us back a decade earlier if not also back to the 1600s. Oh, the irony!
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europalace  Europe 10 Jun 17 9.31am |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
It's ironic that so many on here call the young brainwashed and deluded yet seem to find it hard to conceive that continued politics of austerity and tax cuts for the wealthy will inevitably lead to the emergence of Corbyn type figures who can end up seriously threatening the status quo. Corbyn stopping Mays majority is a direct result of the Tories indifference over the past 7 years. But hey maybe you're all too blind and naive to see that. Some of the 'older' posters on here are clearly jealous of other people's youth and the opportunities they have today, simple as that. They make up the selfish group who pushed through the brexit referendum not giving a damn about the prospects of the younger generations. A truly sad situation which I've never seen in the many other European countries I've lived in, where they focus on supporting their young people because they realise they are the future. Edited by europalace (10 Jun 2017 9.32am)
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jun 17 9.35am |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
It's ironic that so many on here call the young brainwashed and deluded yet seem to find it hard to conceive that continued politics of austerity and tax cuts for the wealthy will inevitably lead to the emergence of Corbyn type figures who can end up seriously threatening the status quo. Corbyn stopping Mays majority is a direct result of the Tories indifference over the past 7 years. But hey maybe you're all too blind and naive to see that. "Austerity" as you put it to try and reduce the defecit and get finances under control in order to have a strong economy.I would have understood this even if it was Labour who was going down this path but alas they just believe in tax and SPEND,SPEND,SPEND with precious little thought for whether the increased expenditure is being spent wisely. As for "Tax cuts for the rich" this does make me laugh when the rich pay the higher rate and as such already contribute a great deal to the coffers. Besides under the Conservatives the amount one can earn before paying tax has been going up and up, now going up to £12,500 and this of course helps ordinary families on lower incomes. As for "Tory indifference over 10 years", let's not forget that there was a coalition Government between 2010 and 2015 where compromises have to be made with one's coalition partners.And such "Indifference" has led to record numbers in employment. At the end of the day, the election was NOT a victory for Labour as is being portrayed - they fell short by nearly 60 seats and there is still a Conservative PM in 'No 10'. Edited by Willo (10 Jun 2017 9.39am)
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| Sportyteacher London 10 Jun 17 9.37am |
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Cambridgeshire Conservative MP, Heidi Allen gave an refreshingly honest assessment of Election result yesterday:
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| Sportyteacher London 10 Jun 17 9.42am |
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Originally posted by Sportyteacher
Cambridgeshire Conservative MP, Heidi Allen gave an refreshingly honest assessment of Election result yesterday: Make that 'a' ...slip of the keyboard. Don't want any complaints about standard of teaching these days. Mind you, PE teachers are famous for making the worst smelling pistakes...
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jun 17 9.43am |
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Originally posted by europalace
Some of the 'older' posters on here are clearly jealous of other people's youth and the opportunities they have today, simple as that. They make up the selfish group who pushed through the brexit referendum not giving a damn about the prospects of the younger generations. A truly sad situation which I've never seen in the many other European countries I've lived in, where they focus on supporting their young people because they realise they are the future. Edited by europalace (10 Jun 2017 9.32am) Total and utter hogwash about all this "Jealousy" bit.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 10 Jun 17 9.43am |
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Originally posted by europalace
Some of the 'older' posters on here are clearly jealous of other people's youth and the opportunities they have today, simple as that. They make up the selfish group who pushed through the brexit referendum not giving a damn about the prospects of the younger generations. A truly sad situation which I've never seen in the many other European countries I've lived in, where they focus on supporting their young people because they realise they are the future. Edited by europalace (10 Jun 2017 9.32am) Well we are not all like they are but the older generation is a big disappointment quite happy with the young having no future. Selfish materialistic often bigoted hope the tide has turned on them.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jun 17 9.46am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Selfish materialistic often bigoted hope the tide has turned on them. This is total and utter hogwash, the type one reads in the 'Guardian' and other such publications. We of the 'Older generation' have offspring who aspire to buy their property, have bought their properties, are in University etc etc.We understand the challenges they face and try to help them, financially or otherwise.We do care about them and their prospects. Edited by Willo (10 Jun 2017 9.50am)
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 10 Jun 17 10.07am |
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Originally posted by europalace
Some of the 'older' posters on here are clearly jealous of other people's youth and the opportunities they have today, simple as that. They make up the selfish group who pushed through the brexit referendum not giving a damn about the prospects of the younger generations. A truly sad situation which I've never seen in the many other European countries I've lived in, where they focus on supporting their young people because they realise they are the future. Edited by europalace (10 Jun 2017 9.32am) My God you talk some utter cr&p. Old people are jealous of young people so vote leave and for austerity which they think won't burden them and the current teenagers and juniors with even more debt. You need a rest.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jun 17 10.08am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
It's almost tragic to watch May's demise from strong and stable to deluded power clingeronerer. House of Cards pales in comparison. Thing is I worry that no good will come of it all. What was the alternative in the circumstances ? Suppose you feel that Labour (Who cannot realistically engineer a majority) should have walked in to 'No 10' on the back of nearly 60 seats behind the Conservatives in the election. The pundits ridiculed this scenario - bloody cheeky and arrogant Labour even suggesting it. As for talking outside 'No 10' this was not the time to comment on the election.This was the time to inform the electorate about what was going to happen next which of course was subject to speculation. Anyway, enough of this political chat from me for now as I have things to do and places to go.Drove my wife mad last night in my 'Local' when people came up to me to chat about the election and she told me to "Shut up" as she was "Politicsed out" !!!!! Edited by Willo (10 Jun 2017 10.10am)
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 10 Jun 17 10.39am |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
It's ironic that so many on here call the young brainwashed and deluded yet seem to find it hard to conceive that continued politics of austerity and tax cuts for the wealthy will inevitably lead to the emergence of Corbyn type figures who can end up seriously threatening the status quo. Corbyn stopping Mays majority is a direct result of the Tories indifference over the past 7 years. But hey maybe you're all too blind and naive to see that. Yes. 55% voted for anti austerity parties. The will of the people.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 10 Jun 17 10.40am |
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Originally posted by Willo
This is total and utter hogwash, the type one reads in the 'Guardian' and other such publications. We of the 'Older generation' have offspring who aspire to buy their property, have bought their properties, are in University etc etc.We understand the challenges they face and try to help them, financially or otherwise.We do care about them and their prospects. You are just the type we are discussing. Edited by Willo (10 Jun 2017 9.50am)
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 Jun 17 10.41am |
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Originally posted by Willo
What was the alternative in the circumstances ? Suppose you feel that Labour (Who cannot realistically engineer a majority) should have walked in to 'No 10' on the back of nearly 60 seats behind the Conservatives in the election. The pundits ridiculed this scenario - bloody cheeky and arrogant Labour even suggesting it. As for talking outside 'No 10' this was not the time to comment on the election.This was the time to inform the electorate about what was going to happen next which of course was subject to speculation. Anyway, enough of this political chat from me for now as I have things to do and places to go.Drove my wife mad last night in my 'Local' when people came up to me to chat about the election and she told me to "Shut up" as she was "Politicsed out" !!!!! Edited by Willo (10 Jun 2017 10.10am) She's had enough! And we're only at the end of the beginning of this story.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 10 Jun 17 10.46am |
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Originally posted by Willo
"Austerity" as you put it to try and reduce the defecit and get finances under control in order to have a strong economy.I would have understood this even if it was Labour who was going down this path but alas they just believe in tax and SPEND,SPEND,SPEND with precious little thought for whether the increased expenditure is being spent wisely. As for "Tax cuts for the rich" this does make me laugh when the rich pay the higher rate and as such already contribute a great deal to the coffers. Besides under the Conservatives the amount one can earn before paying tax has been going up and up, now going up to £12,500 and this of course helps ordinary families on lower incomes. As for "Tory indifference over 10 years", let's not forget that there was a coalition Government between 2010 and 2015 where compromises have to be made with one's coalition partners.And such "Indifference" has led to record numbers in employment. At the end of the day, the election was NOT a victory for Labour as is being portrayed - they fell short by nearly 60 seats and there is still a Conservative PM in 'No 10'. Edited by Willo (10 Jun 2017 9.39am) You clearly have no understanding of depression economics and the economics of austerity. Also increasing the personal allowance was a Lib Dem flagship policy.
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