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jeeagles Flag 03 Nov 16 9.25pm

If Brexit was a good idea, the Brexiters would not be concerned about a parliamentary vote about it.

They also campaigned for our government to take back sovereignty... Well, here you go. They all knew the referendum was advisory.

In other news today, an independent economic advisory board has told the German government (and pretty much by extension the EU) to do anything they can to keep Britain in the Union. But that's pretty much been ignored.

Edited by jeeagles (03 Nov 2016 9.26pm)

 

jeeagles Flag 03 Nov 16 9.25pm

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 03 Nov 16 9.28pm

Originally posted by blackpalacefan

left or right, for better of for worse, all this court action does is stall the inevitable. Best to accept what is coming and adapt to whatever madness or calmless it brings to the country over the coming years.

It would be remiss of Parliament to accept the Article 50 trigger if it were argued successfully in The Commons that to do so could be of great harm to the country, in that we are very ill-prepared to go it alone.

Do we have any competent trade negotiators in place yet, for example?

Edited by Kermit8 (03 Nov 2016 9.30pm)

 


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IMpalace Flag London 03 Nov 16 9.31pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You silly b******s on the left don't see that you are f***ing yourselves with your support of this sort of nonsense.

This is the elite trying to maintain their little greedy empire at our expense. Think Industrial military complex. Think super rich multi national owners, think mega rich bankers and investors. Think corrupt members of elected bodies who control our lives. Think Bilderberg Group. That is who you are handing the reins to.
Think future world government in the pockets of the elite super rich.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (03 Nov 2016 9.09pm)


"Vote Brexit, those b******s in Europe are a bunch of elite bankers ruining our country, bring the laws back to British courts!"


*5 months later*

"Can't you see British courts are corrupt! They're a bunch of elite bankers trying to control our lives, they'll ruin our country!!"


Edited by IMpalace (03 Nov 2016 9.32pm)

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 03 Nov 16 9.31pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Well, what do you intend or would like to replace capitalism with then? For that is what has spawned all the above. The darling economic system of the right-wing.

If you want a revolution that's great but you must have a plan. A cunning plan.

Stratification of society occurs under any system. You know that.
It is more about democracy and national government being undermined by self interest groups. The world is corrupt enough already without us helping it along.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (03 Nov 2016 9.38pm)

 

IMpalace Flag London 03 Nov 16 9.32pm

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 03 Nov 16 9.36pm

Originally posted by IMpalace


"Vote Brexit, those b******s in Europe are a bunch of elite bankers ruining our country, bring the laws back to British courts!"


*5 months later*

"Can't you see British courts are corrupt! They're a bunch of elite bankers trying to control our lives"


They are part of the same problem. It's the ruling elite trying to protect itself.

I'm sounding more left wing than comrade Gusset.

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 03 Nov 16 9.57pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

They are part of the same problem. It's the ruling elite trying to protect itself.

I'm sounding more left wing than comrade Gusset.

Had the Tories not been in power I would have voted leave. Was only the fact I thought Cameron and Co would be worse than the EU that I voted remain.


I think you should vote labour if you want a more equitable society.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 03 Nov 16 10.09pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Had the Tories not been in power I would have voted leave. Was only the fact I thought Cameron and Co would be worse than the EU that I voted remain.


I think you should vote labour if you want a more equitable society.

There never will be and I never will.
Your logic for voting remain is ridiculous.

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 03 Nov 16 10.17pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

There never will be and I never will.
Your logic for voting remain is ridiculous.

I didn't say equitable, I said more equitable. You don't think this is possible...?

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 03 Nov 16 10.37pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I didn't say equitable, I said more equitable. You don't think this is possible...?

If we are talking about Britain then people are generally much better of than 100 or 200 years ago.
The super rich might be richer and certainly the share of wealth could be more equal but the super rich make the rules. By voting remain you clearly want to help them with that.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 04 Nov 16 2.28am

Originally posted by nickgusset

I didn't say equitable, I said more equitable. You don't think this is possible...?

One person's more equal is another person's betrayal.

The problem with Labour is many of the methods they use don't result in a more equal society.

The British working class rumbled this some time ago and Labour are getting what they deserve.

They don't represent working class people anymore....If anything they turn their noses up at them.

They represent themselves.....As do the Tories....But the Tories are more honest about it.

 


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DanH Flag SW2 04 Nov 16 8.42am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

They are part of the same problem. It's the ruling elite trying to protect itself.

I'm sounding more left wing than comrade Gusset.

You're sounding f*cking hilarious more like.

Those elitist judges, doing their jobs and applying British law as handed down for centuries - the pricks.

 

silvertop Flag Portishead 04 Nov 16 9.06am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Oh Stop it.

You know it's a bloody disgraceful and cynical attempt to overturn a democratic vote. It will ultimately fail.

Hrolf, I know the decision is not the one you wanted; but can you please explain why, in your view, the High Court decision was "disgraceful".

 

silvertop Flag Portishead 04 Nov 16 9.12am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

If we are talking about Britain then people are generally much better of than 100 or 200 years ago.
The super rich might be richer and certainly the share of wealth could be more equal but the super rich make the rules. By voting remain you clearly want to help them with that.


As was clear from previous deep recessions, the elite tend to do well whatever the circumstances. As I see it, there is no reason why the elite would not profit handsomely from exiting the EU with the appropriate well-advised asset movements.

If the economy does well, we will all be toasting our cleverness in voting Brexit; or acknowledging how silly we were to vote Remain. On the other hand, if the predicted collapse happens, it will not be the elite who fall by the way side; it will be the likes of you and I Hrolfy me old mate who slip into the mire.

 

silvertop Flag Portishead 04 Nov 16 9.16am

Originally posted by Part Time James

Ultimately I expect the MPs to vote to honour the result and it'll just sew up any legal opposition to Brexit allowing it to continue unchallenged.

Still, I look forward to another 40 petitions on Facebook asking foaming-at-the-mouth lefties to petition for it to be discussed in Parliament.


Why lefties?

 

Part Time James Flag 04 Nov 16 9.40am

Originally posted by silvertop


Why lefties?

Yeah I wonder why. I guess they are less capable of rational thought. Or it's a coincidence. But yeah, they've all been at it on my Facebook.

 




steeleye20 Flag Croydon 04 Nov 16 10.19am

The referendum had ADVISORY on the tin and the High Court saw that clear as day.

Mrs May is a tin-pot dictator avoiding the people that represent us and the electorate and she has the taxpayers money to do it with.

She should have engaged with parliament then all this would not be needed.

 

Part Time James Flag 04 Nov 16 10.24am

Originally posted by steeleye20

The referendum had ADVISORY on the tin and the High Court saw that clear as day.

Mrs May is a tin-pot dictator avoiding the people that represent us and the electorate and she has the taxpayers money to do it with.

She should have engaged with parliament then all this would not be needed.

Whilst I voted for, and still want Brexit, I do have to agree with some of this. The error was the wording on the literature that went with the referendum. Promising that voting for it would make it so was not something that could be promised. It wasn't the only load of sh*te we were dealt in the lead up either.

From my point of view, I just hope that it sews up any questions about the legality of things with minimal delay (although the telegraph report a potential year delay). Pro or Anti, no one could be hoping for a delay to this because the uncertainty is doing nobody any good. The only reason I can see any Remainers wanting a delay is that a delay could turn into an attempt to brush the whole thing under the carpet.

 




Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Nov 16 10.30am

I will keep out of this debate as it will clearly evolve into a vitriolic WILLO thread.

If I had posted some of the things on here, posted by a particular member I would be accused of being a "Troll" and "Attention seeker" etc etc. Rather than give any credence to certain posts I will ignore some of the hogwash and won't rise to any bait.

So that's it from me on this thread.

 

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