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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 10 Jun 17 10.06pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger He's not your parties preferred type of freedom fighter is he Gusset. Kudos. At least he didn't feel the need to wear a balaclava. Pro USA & Israel

Jimenez

SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 10 Jun 17 10.06pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

He's not your parties preferred type of freedom fighter is he Gusset.

Kudos. At least he didn't feel the need to wear a balaclava.

Pro USA & Israel

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 Jun 17 10.06pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger The difference of course, is that we are now post agreement and the paramilitaries have ceased violence. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (10 Jun 2017 10.02pm) Yes and the stormont talks will start with the arbitrators being in cahoots with one side. As much as I'm enjoying May's political death throes, I am worried that no good will come of it. You couldn't have made any of what's happened up!

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 10 Jun 17 10.06pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The difference of course, is that we are now post agreement and the paramilitaries have ceased violence.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (10 Jun 2017 10.02pm)

Yes and the stormont talks will start with the arbitrators being in cahoots with one side.

As much as I'm enjoying May's political death throes, I am worried that no good will come of it.

You couldn't have made any of what's happened up!

Hrolf The Ganger 10 Jun 17 10.12pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Yes and the stormont talks will start with the arbitrators being in cahoots with one side. As much as I'm enjoying May's political death throes, I am worried that no good will come of it. You couldn't have made any of what's happened up! If Sinn Fein sat in Parliament, Jeremy would be sucking up to them like a motherf***er.

Hrolf The Ganger

10 Jun 17 10.12pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Yes and the stormont talks will start with the arbitrators being in cahoots with one side.

As much as I'm enjoying May's political death throes, I am worried that no good will come of it.

You couldn't have made any of what's happened up!

If Sinn Fein sat in Parliament, Jeremy would be sucking up to them like a motherf***er.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 Jun 17 10.16pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger If Sinn Fein sat in Parliament, Jeremy would be sucking up to them like a motherf***er. He's on the blower now. 'here Gerry, you know all those meetings I came to...'

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 10 Jun 17 10.16pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

If Sinn Fein sat in Parliament, Jeremy would be sucking up to them like a motherf***er.

He's on the blower now. 'here Gerry, you know all those meetings I came to...'

Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 10 Jun 17 10.33pm
Originally posted by nickgusset A member of the MayDUP party. [Tweet Link] Edited by nickgusset (10 Jun 2017 9.45pm) The latest in a flurry of own goals for you Gusset. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 10 Jun 17 10.33pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

A member of the MayDUP party.

[Tweet Link]

Edited by nickgusset (10 Jun 2017 9.45pm)

The latest in a flurry of own goals for you Gusset.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 Jun 17 10.49pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt The latest in a flurry of own goals for you Gusset. Not really.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 10 Jun 17 10.49pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

The latest in a flurry of own goals for you Gusset.

Not really.

Kermit8 Hevon 10 Jun 17 10.54pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Oh the hypocrisy. Goes on and on about there being nothing to see and having no problem about Corbyn's past and then you do this. Nick you are so transparent I can see what you had for lunch. I don't know of any Tories supporting a side that was deliberately murdering British soldiers. That's your side. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jun 2017 10.03pm) Normally you are so very blasé about the inevitable casualties in a war and quite accepting of it as a consequence. So what made The Troubles so very different to all other conflicts that you can't rationalise its results in the same way? Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 10 Jun 17 10.54pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Oh the hypocrisy.

Goes on and on about there being nothing to see and having no problem about Corbyn's past and then you do this.

Nick you are so transparent I can see what you had for lunch.

I don't know of any Tories supporting a side that was deliberately murdering British soldiers. That's your side.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jun 2017 10.03pm)

Normally you are so very blasé about the inevitable casualties in a war and quite accepting of it as a consequence. So what made The Troubles so very different to all other conflicts that you can't rationalise its results in the same way?

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]

Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 10 Jun 17 11.02pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Normally you are so very blasé about the inevitable casualties in a war and quite accepting of it as a consequence. So what made The Troubles so very different to all other conflicts that you can't rationalise its results in the same way? It's Gusset's vain attempt to use the "tu quoque" argument. Didn't work at Nüremberg, either. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 10 Jun 17 11.02pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

It's Gusset's vain attempt to use the "tu quoque" argument. Didn't work at Nüremberg, either.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

corkery Cork City 11 Jun 17 12.33am
The DUP want the Olympic team name changed. Finally, the mainstream media in the UK will see what they are like and what their priorities are. We'll never die

corkery

Cork City 11 Jun 17 12.33am

The DUP want the Olympic team name changed. Finally, the mainstream media in the UK will see what they are like and what their priorities are.

We'll never die

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 Jun 17 12.42am
Originally posted by Cucking Funt It's Gusset's vain attempt to use the "tu quoque" argument. Didn't work at Nüremberg, either. That wasn't the proper one, just trials.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 11 Jun 17 12.42am

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

It's Gusset's vain attempt to use the "tu quoque" argument. Didn't work at Nüremberg, either.

That wasn't the proper one, just trials.

Stirlingsays 11 Jun 17 1.25am
Originally posted by Kermit8 Normally you are so very blasé about the inevitable casualties in a war and quite accepting of it as a consequence. So what made The Troubles so very different to all other conflicts that you can't rationalise its results in the same way? Most soldiers are doing a job. The IRA were volunteers who weren't representing another government. I suppose I feel less charitable towards them.....However this idea that you end conflicts and everything is ok is risible. It took another generation to die before attitudes towards Germany and Japan really adapted for many. I don't think the good Friday agreement was fair on the unionists at all. But that's a different thread. I'm not neutal between unionists and say republicans who supported murdering British soldiers. My brother did a tour over there. There were republicans who didn't support murder as a method of advancing their aims. I have no problems with them. I do accept that armies are there to fight and I'm not one for the modern era's view of them as window dressing. However that doesn't mean that I don't care for their lives. When it comes to British forces lined up against those who would wish to kill them I'm not neural...sorry. That's for you lot. Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Jun 2017 1.27am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

11 Jun 17 1.25am

Originally posted by Kermit8

Most soldiers are doing a job. The IRA were volunteers who weren't representing another government. I suppose I feel less charitable towards them.....However this idea that you end conflicts and everything is ok is risible. It took another generation to die before attitudes towards Germany and Japan really adapted for many.

I don't think the good Friday agreement was fair on the unionists at all. But that's a different thread. I'm not neutal between unionists and say republicans who supported murdering British soldiers. My brother did a tour over there.

There were republicans who didn't support murder as a method of advancing their aims. I have no problems with them.

I do accept that armies are there to fight and I'm not one for the modern era's view of them as window dressing.

However that doesn't mean that I don't care for their lives. When it comes to British forces lined up against those who would wish to kill them I'm not neural...sorry.

That's for you lot.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Jun 2017 1.27am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 Jun 17 2.08am
Interesting... [Tweet Link]

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 11 Jun 17 2.08am

Interesting...

[Tweet Link]

hedgehog50 Croydon 11 Jun 17 10.06am
I can't decide which gave me more pleasure, Nick Clegg losing his seat or Angus Robertson. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 11 Jun 17 10.06am

I can't decide which gave me more pleasure, Nick Clegg losing his seat or Angus Robertson.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Hrolf The Ganger 11 Jun 17 10.08am
Originally posted by hedgehog50 I can't decide which gave me more pleasure, Nick Clegg losing his seat or Angus Robertson. Alex Salmond.

Hrolf The Ganger

11 Jun 17 10.08am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

I can't decide which gave me more pleasure, Nick Clegg losing his seat or Angus Robertson.

Alex Salmond.

Sportyteacher London 11 Jun 17 11.15am
Perfect summation of May debacle when even after losing majority that her judgment in response is still hopelessly wrong Attachment: Theresa May.jpg (130.47Kb)

Sportyteacher

London 11 Jun 17 11.15am

Perfect summation of May debacle when even after losing majority that her judgment in response is still hopelessly wrong

Attachment: Theresa May.jpg (130.47Kb)

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 11 Jun 17 11.19am
Originally posted by nickgusset Interesting... [Tweet Link] Indeed. This makes intuitive sense. I for one, while pleased the Tories are in a mess, am less pleased that May has created a situation where Brexit cannot be forefront of the minds of politicians given the mess at home, simply due to a hubristic attempt at a power grab. The election was a vanity project for her and purely politically opportunistic. If she genuinely believed this election was necessary due to Brexit she would have called it soon after become PM and certainly BEFORE article 50 was triggered. Her actions have been irresponsible and now threaten the future of this country as we prepare for these vitally important Brexit negotiations. I hope that we have another election and we manage to get a government that actually has the authority and ability to get on with Brexit, but to do so in a manor that bears the public in mind and which puts public services, jobs and social rights at the heart of negotiations.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 11 Jun 17 11.19am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Interesting...

[Tweet Link]

Indeed. This makes intuitive sense. I for one, while pleased the Tories are in a mess, am less pleased that May has created a situation where Brexit cannot be forefront of the minds of politicians given the mess at home, simply due to a hubristic attempt at a power grab. The election was a vanity project for her and purely politically opportunistic. If she genuinely believed this election was necessary due to Brexit she would have called it soon after become PM and certainly BEFORE article 50 was triggered. Her actions have been irresponsible and now threaten the future of this country as we prepare for these vitally important Brexit negotiations.

I hope that we have another election and we manage to get a government that actually has the authority and ability to get on with Brexit, but to do so in a manor that bears the public in mind and which puts public services, jobs and social rights at the heart of negotiations.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Jun 17 11.28am
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle Indeed. This makes intuitive sense. I for one, while pleased the Tories are in a mess, am less pleased that May has created a situation where Brexit cannot be forefront of the minds of politicians given the mess at home, simply due to a hubristic attempt at a power grab. The election was a vanity project for her and purely politically opportunistic. If she genuinely believed this election was necessary due to Brexit she would have called it soon after become PM and certainly BEFORE article 50 was triggered. Her actions have been irresponsible and now threaten the future of this country as we prepare for these vitally important Brexit negotiations. I hope that we have another election and we manage to get a government that actually has the authority and ability to get on with Brexit, but to do so in a manor that bears the public in mind and which puts public services, jobs and social rights at the heart of negotiations. We Conservatives are NOT in a "Mess" at all but of course these are challenging times for us. The situation overall is unsatisfactory for the country and this is not the election result we Conservatives wanted but let's NOT forget we are the largest party with nearly 60 seats more than Labour, polled more votes and had a higher % of the vote than for many years.But I fully accept that both the manifesto and national campaign was pretty awful and I have mentioned this before.Certainly contributed to providing Labour with more seats. I totally disagree that Theresa May called the election for the reasons you stated.She called the election to try and get a larger mandate for when she went into complex and protracted Brexit negotiations and I can totally understand her reasons for doing so. You would think that Labour had WON the election ! As mentioned they are NOT the largest party and could not realistically form a majority with other parties.It is totally arrogant for them to say they could form a minority Government - It would be a mess just like it would be if they had got in power with their fantasy promises. I'll leave it at this otherwise it will disintegrate into yet another WILLO thread.Will give this 'General Election' thread a miss from now on. Edited by Willo (11 Jun 2017 11.42am)

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Jun 17 11.28am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Indeed. This makes intuitive sense. I for one, while pleased the Tories are in a mess, am less pleased that May has created a situation where Brexit cannot be forefront of the minds of politicians given the mess at home, simply due to a hubristic attempt at a power grab. The election was a vanity project for her and purely politically opportunistic. If she genuinely believed this election was necessary due to Brexit she would have called it soon after become PM and certainly BEFORE article 50 was triggered. Her actions have been irresponsible and now threaten the future of this country as we prepare for these vitally important Brexit negotiations.

We Conservatives are NOT in a "Mess" at all but of course these are challenging times for us.
The situation overall is unsatisfactory for the country and this is not the election result we Conservatives wanted but let's NOT forget we are the largest party with nearly 60 seats more than Labour, polled more votes and had a higher % of the vote than for many years.But I fully accept that both the manifesto and national campaign was pretty awful and I have mentioned this before.Certainly contributed to providing Labour with more seats.

I totally disagree that Theresa May called the election for the reasons you stated.She called the election to try and get a larger mandate for when she went into complex and protracted Brexit negotiations and I can totally understand her reasons for doing so.

You would think that Labour had WON the election ! As mentioned they are NOT the largest party and could not realistically form a majority with other parties.It is totally arrogant for them to say they could form a minority Government - It would be a mess just like it would be if they had got in power with their fantasy promises.

I'll leave it at this otherwise it will disintegrate into yet another WILLO thread.Will give this 'General Election' thread a miss from now on.

Edited by Willo (11 Jun 2017 11.42am)

hedgehog50 Croydon 11 Jun 17 11.39am
Originally posted by Willo We are NOT in a "Mess" at all. The situation overall is unsatisfactory for the country and this is not the election result we Conservatives wanted but let's NOT forget we are the largest party with nearly 60 seats more than Labour, polled more votes and had a higher % of the vote than for many years.But I fully accept that both the manifesto and national campaign was pretty awful and I have mentioned this before.Certainly contributed in providing Labour with more seats. I totally disgaree that Theresa May called the election for the reasons you stated.She called the election to try and get a larger mandate for when she went into complex and protracted Brexit negotiations and I can totally understand her reasons for doing so. You would think that Labour had WON the election ! As mentioned they are NOT the largest party and could not realistically form a majority with other parties.It is totally arrogant for them to say they could form a minority Government - It would be a mess just like it would be if they had got in power with their fantasy promises. I'll leave it at this otherwise it will disintegrate into yet another WILLO thread.Will give this 'General Election' thread a miss from now on. Edited by Willo (11 Jun 2017 11.36am) Of course it is a mess - from all points of view. The Tories need to appoint another leader as soon as possible and then call another general election as soon as possible after that. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 11 Jun 17 11.39am

Originally posted by Willo

We are NOT in a "Mess" at all.
The situation overall is unsatisfactory for the country and this is not the election result we Conservatives wanted but let's NOT forget we are the largest party with nearly 60 seats more than Labour, polled more votes and had a higher % of the vote than for many years.But I fully accept that both the manifesto and national campaign was pretty awful and I have mentioned this before.Certainly contributed in providing Labour with more seats.

I totally disgaree that Theresa May called the election for the reasons you stated.She called the election to try and get a larger mandate for when she went into complex and protracted Brexit negotiations and I can totally understand her reasons for doing so.

I'll leave it at this otherwise it will disintegrate into yet another WILLO thread.Will give this 'General Election' thread a miss from now on.

Edited by Willo (11 Jun 2017 11.36am)

Of course it is a mess - from all points of view. The Tories need to appoint another leader as soon as possible and then call another general election as soon as possible after that.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Hrolf The Ganger 11 Jun 17 12.07pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle Indeed. This makes intuitive sense. I for one, while pleased the Tories are in a mess, am less pleased that May has created a situation where Brexit cannot be forefront of the minds of politicians given the mess at home, simply due to a hubristic attempt at a power grab. The election was a vanity project for her and purely politically opportunistic. If she genuinely believed this election was necessary due to Brexit she would have called it soon after become PM and certainly BEFORE article 50 was triggered. Her actions have been irresponsible and now threaten the future of this country as we prepare for these vitally important Brexit negotiations. I hope that we have another election and we manage to get a government that actually has the authority and ability to get on with Brexit, but to do so in a manor that bears the public in mind and which puts public services, jobs and social rights at the heart of negotiations. You want Labour in charge of negotiations? I despair. You have seen the Labour cabinet? They couldn't be trusted with wiping their own arse.

Hrolf The Ganger

11 Jun 17 12.07pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

You want Labour in charge of negotiations?

I despair. You have seen the Labour cabinet?

They couldn't be trusted with wiping their own arse.

steeleye20 Croydon 11 Jun 17 12.39pm
Brexit is gone drag it out as long as you like but it has gone. There may be a fudge and flag-waving but that's all it could possibly be now IMO. Instead we can be as we are in a strong power bloc and being 'strong and stable'. Now where did I hear that????

steeleye20

Croydon 11 Jun 17 12.39pm

Brexit is gone drag it out as long as you like but it has gone.

There may be a fudge and flag-waving but that's all it could possibly be now IMO.

Instead we can be as we are in a strong power bloc and being 'strong and stable'.

Now where did I hear that????

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