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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Jul 23 9.41pm
Originally posted by georgenorman You have not described how Farage has been hypocritical in his reaction to Coutts closing his account. You also bandy about allegations of rudeness that you can’t substantiate. Hopeless! Try reading my post at 7.06. It’s repeated there. I await your apology without any expectation of receiving it. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 29 Jul 23 9.41pm

Originally posted by georgenorman

You have not described how Farage has been hypocritical in his reaction to Coutts closing his account. You also bandy about allegations of rudeness that you can’t substantiate.

Hopeless!

Try reading my post at 7.06. It’s repeated there.

I await your apology without any expectation of receiving it.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Badger11 Beckenham 29 Jul 23 9.54pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Do you seriously think they would knowingly offer service to an arms dealer or money launderer? That feels illegal to me. Seriously? Why do you think the anti money laundering laws were brought in? And still the banks senior management suffer from amnesia and claim lack of controls / mistakes when they caught. But you are correct people should go to gaol for this, but they don't. Why do you think London is called the Money Laundering Capital of the world. Edited by Badger11 (29 Jul 2023 9.55pm) Edited by Badger11 (29 Jul 2023 9.55pm) One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 29 Jul 23 9.54pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Do you seriously think they would knowingly offer service to an arms dealer or money launderer? That feels illegal to me.

Seriously?

Why do you think the anti money laundering laws were brought in?

And still the banks senior management suffer from amnesia and claim lack of controls / mistakes when they caught.

But you are correct people should go to gaol for this, but they don't.

Why do you think London is called the Money Laundering Capital of the world.

Edited by Badger11 (29 Jul 2023 9.55pm)

One more point

georgenorman 29 Jul 23 9.56pm
[quote=Wisbech Eagle;3812367 Hopeless! Try reading my post at 7.06. It’s repeated there. I await your apology without any expectation of receiving it. Farage bears no responsibility whatsoever for people having their bank accounts closed.

georgenorman

29 Jul 23 9.56pm

[quote=Wisbech Eagle;3812367

Hopeless!

Try reading my post at 7.06. It’s repeated there.

I await your apology without any expectation of receiving it.

Farage bears no responsibility whatsoever for people having their bank accounts closed.

NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 29 Jul 23 10.11pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Contradiction will only be seen by a pendant, to whom I have explained. Others will understand from the start what was meant. Perhaps you would like to explain precisely which way Farage's freedom of speech has been curtailed by this event? Contradiction will be seen as just that - no pedantry required ! And if you have to ask the freedom of speech question than you’re more deluded than I thought - because the argument has never been about it being curtailed. Nor have I claimed it to be. Old, Ungifted and White

NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 29 Jul 23 10.11pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Contradiction will only be seen by a pendant, to whom I have explained. Others will understand from the start what was meant.

Perhaps you would like to explain precisely which way Farage's freedom of speech has been curtailed by this event?

Contradiction will be seen as just that - no pedantry required !

And if you have to ask the freedom of speech question than you’re more deluded than I thought - because the argument has never been about it being curtailed. Nor have I claimed it to be.

Old, Ungifted and White

Hrolf The Ganger 29 Jul 23 10.38pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle You seriously think the silent majority agree with you? You must be nuts! The shrinking number who do are making a disproportionate amount of noise. The silent majority are those too busy just coping to bother making noise but are also those most impacted by Brexit and therefore more anti than the rest. Brexit is just one element. People are tired of mass immigration. Tired of the gang violence, organized crime, race nonsense and religious zealotry that comes with it. Only the liberal elite and a few students look at this country and think that it isn't going to the dogs. And then of course there are hypocrites who move to Cornwall and then tell us everything is great. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (29 Jul 2023 10.39pm)

Hrolf The Ganger

29 Jul 23 10.38pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You seriously think the silent majority agree with you?

You must be nuts!

The shrinking number who do are making a disproportionate amount of noise.

The silent majority are those too busy just coping to bother making noise but are also those most impacted by Brexit and therefore more anti than the rest.

Brexit is just one element. People are tired of mass immigration. Tired of the gang violence, organized crime, race nonsense and religious zealotry that comes with it.

Only the liberal elite and a few students look at this country and think that it isn't going to the dogs.

And then of course there are hypocrites who move to Cornwall and then tell us everything is great.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (29 Jul 2023 10.39pm)

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Jul 23 11.04pm
Originally posted by NEILLO Contradiction will be seen as just that - no pedantry required ! And if you have to ask the freedom of speech question than you’re more deluded than I thought - because the argument has never been about it being curtailed. Nor have I claimed it to be. If contradiction exists then of course it can be seen. It doesn’t so it can’t. If Farage or anyone else isn’t complaining about how his free speech is impacted why on earth are they making a fuss? Being able to pontificate is all that matters to him. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 29 Jul 23 11.04pm

Originally posted by NEILLO

Contradiction will be seen as just that - no pedantry required !

And if you have to ask the freedom of speech question than you’re more deluded than I thought - because the argument has never been about it being curtailed. Nor have I claimed it to be.

If contradiction exists then of course it can be seen. It doesn’t so it can’t.

If Farage or anyone else isn’t complaining about how his free speech is impacted why on earth are they making a fuss? Being able to pontificate is all that matters to him.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Jul 23 11.14pm
Originally posted by georgenorman [quote=Wisbech Eagle;3812367 Hopeless! Try reading my post at 7.06. It’s repeated there. I await your apology without any expectation of receiving it. Farage bears no responsibility whatsoever for people having their bank accounts closed. Farage was a primary driver of Brexit and celebrated it like we had won a war! People had their accounts closed as a direct consequence. He wasn’t solely responsible but he is a hypocrite for making a fuss about his closure and ignoring those that Brexit caused: For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 29 Jul 23 11.14pm

Originally posted by georgenorman

[quote=Wisbech Eagle;3812367

Hopeless!

Try reading my post at 7.06. It’s repeated there.

I await your apology without any expectation of receiving it.

Farage bears no responsibility whatsoever for people having their bank accounts closed.

Farage was a primary driver of Brexit and celebrated it like we had won a war! People had their accounts closed as a direct consequence. He wasn’t solely responsible but he is a hypocrite for making a fuss about his closure and ignoring those that Brexit caused:

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Teddy Eagle 29 Jul 23 11.44pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Farage was a primary driver of Brexit and celebrated it like we had won a war! People had their accounts closed as a direct consequence. He wasn’t solely responsible but he is a hypocrite for making a fuss about his closure and ignoring those that Brexit caused: Even if he is hypocrisy isn't a crime.

Teddy Eagle

29 Jul 23 11.44pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Even if he is hypocrisy isn't a crime.

Spiderman Horsham 30 Jul 23 7.09am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Farage was a primary driver of Brexit and celebrated it like we had won a war! People had their accounts closed as a direct consequence. He wasn’t solely responsible but he is a hypocrite for making a fuss about his closure and ignoring those that Brexit caused: So people had their bank accounts closed because they supported Brexit? Christ what a democratic society we live in!,

Spiderman

Horsham 30 Jul 23 7.09am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

So people had their bank accounts closed because they supported Brexit? Christ what a democratic society we live in!,

georgenorman 30 Jul 23 8.53am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Farage was a primary driver of Brexit and celebrated it like we had won a war! People had their accounts closed as a direct consequence. He wasn’t solely responsible but he is a hypocrite for making a fuss about his closure and ignoring those that Brexit caused: That’s like blaming the victims of mugging for being mugged because they campaigned against mugging. Farage and many of us celebrated Brexit as a major battle won in the war - the struggle against the likes of you continues.

georgenorman

30 Jul 23 8.53am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That’s like blaming the victims of mugging for being mugged because they campaigned against mugging.

Farage and many of us celebrated Brexit as a major battle won in the war - the struggle against the likes of you continues.

Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 30 Jul 23 9.06am
BJ took the reins from Farage as the primary driver of Brexit. I haven't heard that BJ has had any bank accounts closed, but maybe his banks adhere to the rule of customer confidentiality. i look forward to Nat West releasing some sort of public statement about the horrendous activities of Wisbech, and due to a change in policy, they were now shutting his account. I disengage, I turn the page.

Forest Hillbilly

in a hidey-hole 30 Jul 23 9.06am

BJ took the reins from Farage as the primary driver of Brexit.

I haven't heard that BJ has had any bank accounts closed, but maybe his banks adhere to the rule of customer confidentiality.

i look forward to Nat West releasing some sort of public statement about the horrendous activities of Wisbech, and due to a change in policy, they were now shutting his account.

I disengage, I turn the page.

Hrolf The Ganger 30 Jul 23 9.17am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Farage was a primary driver of Brexit and celebrated it like we had won a war! People had their accounts closed as a direct consequence. He wasn’t solely responsible but he is a hypocrite for making a fuss about his closure and ignoring those that Brexit caused: What? Now Brexit is to blame for people having their accounts closed? So let me get this straight. People had accounts closed for supporting Brexit? And you see no problem with that? It's Farage's fault for daring to support Brexit?

Hrolf The Ganger

30 Jul 23 9.17am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What?

Now Brexit is to blame for people having their accounts closed?

So let me get this straight. People had accounts closed for supporting Brexit?
And you see no problem with that?

It's Farage's fault for daring to support Brexit?

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 9.35am
Originally posted by Spiderman So people had their bank accounts closed because they supported Brexit? Christ what a democratic society we live in!, No, they had their UK bank accounts closed because they live in the EU and we were no longer a member. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 9.35am

Originally posted by Spiderman

So people had their bank accounts closed because they supported Brexit? Christ what a democratic society we live in!,

No, they had their UK bank accounts closed because they live in the EU and we were no longer a member.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 9.38am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Even if he is hypocrisy isn't a crime. Being a self-important xenophobic grifter isn't a crime either, but isn't a characteristic to be admired. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 9.38am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Even if he is hypocrisy isn't a crime.

Being a self-important xenophobic grifter isn't a crime either, but isn't a characteristic to be admired.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 9.42am
Originally posted by georgenorman That’s like blaming the victims of mugging for being mugged because they campaigned against mugging. Farage and many of us celebrated Brexit as a major battle won in the war - the struggle against the likes of you continues. Unsurprisingly you fail to see the point. Farage is now bleating about how his "revelations" have uncovered a mass of other account closures which he will now campaign to overturn. Whilst Brexit was a direct cause of many more yet doesn't mention them. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 9.42am

Originally posted by georgenorman

That’s like blaming the victims of mugging for being mugged because they campaigned against mugging.

Farage and many of us celebrated Brexit as a major battle won in the war - the struggle against the likes of you continues.

Unsurprisingly you fail to see the point.

Farage is now bleating about how his "revelations" have uncovered a mass of other account closures which he will now campaign to overturn. Whilst Brexit was a direct cause of many more yet doesn't mention them.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 9.45am
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly BJ took the reins from Farage as the primary driver of Brexit. I haven't heard that BJ has had any bank accounts closed, but maybe his banks adhere to the rule of customer confidentiality. i look forward to Nat West releasing some sort of public statement about the horrendous activities of Wisbech, and due to a change in policy, they were now shutting his account. Nor me, but maybe he did and decided it was no big deal and kept quiet about it, along with the bank. I am not a PEP! For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 9.45am

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

BJ took the reins from Farage as the primary driver of Brexit.

I haven't heard that BJ has had any bank accounts closed, but maybe his banks adhere to the rule of customer confidentiality.

i look forward to Nat West releasing some sort of public statement about the horrendous activities of Wisbech, and due to a change in policy, they were now shutting his account.

Nor me, but maybe he did and decided it was no big deal and kept quiet about it, along with the bank.

I am not a PEP!

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 9.54am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger What? Now Brexit is to blame for people having their accounts closed? So let me get this straight. People had accounts closed for supporting Brexit? And you see no problem with that? It's Farage's fault for daring to support Brexit? You are another who doesn't understand. It wasn't Brexit supporters who had accounts closed. It was UK citizens living in the EU having their UK accounts closed because of Brexit. Farage is making a big deal of his closure and now making political capital out of suggesting that other accounts have been closed too, whilst keeping silent about the many thousands of UK citizens whose accounts were closed because of something he enthusiastically supported and aggressively campaigned for. [Link] Edited by Wisbech Eagle (30 Jul 2023 9.59am) For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 9.54am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

What?

Now Brexit is to blame for people having their accounts closed?

So let me get this straight. People had accounts closed for supporting Brexit?
And you see no problem with that?

It's Farage's fault for daring to support Brexit?

You are another who doesn't understand.

It wasn't Brexit supporters who had accounts closed. It was UK citizens living in the EU having their UK accounts closed because of Brexit.

Farage is making a big deal of his closure and now making political capital out of suggesting that other accounts have been closed too, whilst keeping silent about the many thousands of UK citizens whose accounts were closed because of something he enthusiastically supported and aggressively campaigned for.

[Link]

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (30 Jul 2023 9.59am)

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

georgenorman 30 Jul 23 9.54am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle No, they had their UK bank accounts closed because they live in the EU and we were no longer a member. That was due to EU regulations, UK banks were forced to close some business accounts. Not the fault of Farage at all - the fault of the undemocratic authoritarian EU.

georgenorman

30 Jul 23 9.54am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No, they had their UK bank accounts closed because they live in the EU and we were no longer a member.

That was due to EU regulations, UK banks were forced to close some business accounts. Not the fault of Farage at all - the fault of the undemocratic authoritarian EU.

Teddy Eagle 30 Jul 23 10.10am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Being a self-important xenophobic grifter isn't a crime either, but isn't a characteristic to be admired. Nor is being a half daft doddery old fool who thinks he's Irish, ignores his grandchildren and hates Britain but Biden gets enough excuses.

Teddy Eagle

30 Jul 23 10.10am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Being a self-important xenophobic grifter isn't a crime either, but isn't a characteristic to be admired.

Nor is being a half daft doddery old fool who thinks he's Irish, ignores his grandchildren and hates Britain but Biden gets enough excuses.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 10.11am
Originally posted by georgenorman That was due to EU regulations, UK banks were forced to close some business accounts. Not the fault of Farage at all - the fault of the undemocratic authoritarian EU. Not true. It was due to the "deal" agreed by Johnson which failed to address the problem and left many things hanging. Nor were they just business accounts. Many thousands were personal accounts into which things like pensions were paid. It is a requirement that to hold a UK bank account you must have a current UK address. Farage wasn't responsible for the "deal" but he has been silent on the bank closures resulting from it, whilst making political capital from his own closure. Obvious hypocrisy. [Link] For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 10.11am

Originally posted by georgenorman

That was due to EU regulations, UK banks were forced to close some business accounts. Not the fault of Farage at all - the fault of the undemocratic authoritarian EU.

Not true. It was due to the "deal" agreed by Johnson which failed to address the problem and left many things hanging. Nor were they just business accounts. Many thousands were personal accounts into which things like pensions were paid.

It is a requirement that to hold a UK bank account you must have a current UK address.

Farage wasn't responsible for the "deal" but he has been silent on the bank closures resulting from it, whilst making political capital from his own closure. Obvious hypocrisy.

[Link]

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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