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Mapletree Flag Croydon 29 Mar 20 12.08am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


Boring.

If you can't support the government's efforts then you are part of the problem. The vast majority of people are happy with that effort so far. Ony the same old Lefty muppets are complaining. You lost the election and Brexit and Trump is up for another term so suck it up comrade.

This is what the profession was saying nine months ago. Like I said, we started out already badly weakened and now have to catch up. Hopefully we shall manage that but people will already have died needlessly

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Stirlingsays Flag 29 Mar 20 12.09am

Originally posted by Mapletree

That just means nothing

Try getting some facts. I suggest The Kings Fund as a good place to start.

I thought Tom was being rather kind actually.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Mar 2020 12.14am)

 


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Jamesey Flag Wandsworth 29 Mar 20 12.13am

Originally posted by Mapletree

That just means nothing

Try getting some facts. I suggest The Kings Fund as a good place to start.

Your post means nothing. Instead of whingeing try getting behind the government for the good of the nation at a time of crisis. Everyone except Corbyn and some of his acolytes appear to be accepting this.

The Labour mayor of Manchester is a beacon of sense in all his statements on LBC radio. The government is doing its best so try being constructive for a change.

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 29 Mar 20 12.14am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I thought Tom was being rather kind actually.

By calling me a loser? I am actually feckin angry. Running Care Homes with no ability to test for the disease is a nightmare. I am project managing a life and death response at the moment. We couldn’t get PPE, no tests, can’t move out anyone if they get sick, very high mortality rate for our age group. It didn’t have to be this way and I ain’t happy.

 

Mapletree Flag Croydon 29 Mar 20 12.16am

Originally posted by Jamesey

Your post means nothing. Instead of whingeing try getting behind the government for the good of the nation at a time of crisis. Everyone except Corbyn and some of his acolytes appear to be accepting this.

The Labour mayor of Manchester is a beacon of sense in all his statements on LBC radio. The government is doing its best so try being constructive for a change.

I am behind everyone doing something about this. Where did I say I wasn’t. Doesn’t mean I can’t criticise why this happened does it.

However I could not let the assertion ‘handled brilliantly by the cons’ slide by. For example we were offered 5,000 ventilators but dithered until they were gone. Handled brilliantly?

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Edited by Mapletree (29 Mar 2020 12.19am)

 

Stirlingsays Flag 29 Mar 20 12.17am

Originally posted by Mapletree

By calling me a loser? I am actually feckin angry. Running Care Homes with no ability to test for the disease is a nightmare. I am project managing a life and death response at the moment. We couldn’t get PPE, no tests, can’t move out anyone if they get sick, very high mortality rate for our age group. It didn’t have to be this way and I ain’t happy.

I would hardly accuse the government of not working hard on this problem.

The kits will come as fast as they come.

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 29 Mar 20 12.21am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I would hardly accuse the government of not working hard on this problem.

The kits will come as fast as they come.

5,000 ventilators ready to ship. EU procurement initiative overlooked. Lock down coming too late. Staffing crisis. Bed crisis. Social work crisis. Do me a favour.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 29 Mar 20 12.24am

Originally posted by Mapletree

5,000 ventilators ready to ship. EU procurement initiative overlooked. Lock down coming too late. Staffing crisis. Bed crisis. Social work crisis. Do me a favour.

I wonder how Qatar is doing.

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 29 Mar 20 12.28am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I wonder how Qatar is doing.

One death. What’s that got to do with anything? Simple deflection. Did you read the link about the 5,000 ventilators?

 

Stirlingsays Flag 29 Mar 20 12.32am

Originally posted by Mapletree

One death. What’s that got to do with anything? Simple deflection. Did you read the link about the 5,000 ventilators?

Yes it was simple deflection...You don't like it either do you.

No, I didn't click on the link.

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 29 Mar 20 12.37am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yes it was simple deflection...You don't like it either do you.

No, I didn't click on the link.

Your usual practice of cerebral hygiene. Auguste Comte would be impressed

 

Stirlingsays Flag 29 Mar 20 12.41am

Originally posted by Mapletree

Your usual practice of cerebral hygiene. Auguste Comte would be impressed

Go to bed, you read like you need the sleep.

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 29 Mar 20 12.45am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Go to bed, you read like you need the sleep.

Thank you for your concern. Could be the 15 hour days 7 days a week trying to keep1700 over 55s safe.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 29 Mar 20 12.51am

Originally posted by Mapletree

Thank you for your concern. Could be the 15 hour days 7 days a week trying to keep1700 over 55s safe.

I'm sure you moaning on Hol will help.

I preferred it when you were storming the Iranian embassy back in 80.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 29 Mar 20 5.05am

Originally posted by Mapletree

Thank you for your concern. Could be the 15 hour days 7 days a week trying to keep1700 over 55s safe.

So where were your contingency plans if you knew this was coming for 20 years. You had a duty of care to your clients and clearly failed and now want to blame someone. Where are your masks,aprons and ventilators for this 'known' pandemic. Have you got enough sanitizer and other cleaners. Any chance you have copy or your 'pandemic' procedures (in case of) that you can link. Site specific outbreaks you will have as all homes do but as we all know this is not one of those. I doubt you have so shouting from the rooftops about how bad the government have done should really be a whisper into your dictaphone. "Must try harder".

 

Mapletree Flag Croydon 29 Mar 20 10.21am

Originally posted by cryrst

So where were your contingency plans if you knew this was coming for 20 years. You had a duty of care to your clients and clearly failed and now want to blame someone. Where are your masks,aprons and ventilators for this 'known' pandemic. Have you got enough sanitizer and other cleaners. Any chance you have copy or your 'pandemic' procedures (in case of) that you can link. Site specific outbreaks you will have as all homes do but as we all know this is not one of those. I doubt you have so shouting from the rooftops about how bad the government have done should really be a whisper into your dictaphone. "Must try harder".

I wrote them years ago for another organisation. I only recently joined this one. We had contingency plans that relied on local authority plans. Their plans assumed the NHS would deliver its part. The NHS plans presumably assumed the Government would not drop the ball. The only way to plan is in an integrated way.

So it’s our fault the promised PPE didn’t arrive? Beyond a joke.

 

Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 29 Mar 20 11.01am

Originally posted by Mapletree

That just means nothing

Try getting some facts. I suggest The Kings Fund as a good place to start.

There is nothing factual about The Kings Fund.

It’s a left wing think tank.

Bless you, your naivety is adorable

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 29 Mar 20 11.10am

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

There is nothing factual about The Kings Fund.

It’s a left wing think tank.

Bless you, your naivety is adorable

Where the hell did you ‘learn’ that? You are wrong.

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 29 Mar 20 12.30pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

I wrote them years ago for another organisation. I only recently joined this one. We had contingency plans that relied on local authority plans. Their plans assumed the NHS would deliver its part. The NHS plans presumably assumed the Government would not drop the ball. The only way to plan is in an integrated way.

So it’s our fault the promised PPE didn’t arrive? Beyond a joke.

You didnt use the 6 p's then maple.
Proper preparation prevents piss poor performance.
You can actually plan independently and stock up for a 1 in a 100 year problem. I doubt your accountant or budget would allow it so that goes right to the top with similar issues. Even governments have to have budgets you know.
Its not all about you!

 

Mapletree Flag Croydon 29 Mar 20 12.34pm

Originally posted by cryrst

You didnt use the 6 p's then maple.
Proper preparation prevents piss poor performance.
You can actually plan independently and stock up for a 1 in a 100 year problem. I doubt your accountant or budget would allow it so that goes right to the top with similar issues. Even governments have to have budgets you know.
Its not all about you!

Government policy was to emasculate our business which is charitable. It required us to take a reduction in income of 12% over the past four years to pay for its austerity strategy, despite the costs rocketing due to the minimum wage rises. As a result there was no hope we could prepare properly for this risk. We were too busy using any reserves we had to pay for our Grenfell response.

Edited by Mapletree (29 Mar 2020 12.44pm)

 

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