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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
If you can't support the government's efforts then you are part of the problem. The vast majority of people are happy with that effort so far. Ony the same old Lefty muppets are complaining. You lost the election and Brexit and Trump is up for another term so suck it up comrade. This is what the profession was saying nine months ago. Like I said, we started out already badly weakened and now have to catch up. Hopefully we shall manage that but people will already have died needlessly
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Originally posted by Mapletree
That just means nothing Try getting some facts. I suggest The Kings Fund as a good place to start. I thought Tom was being rather kind actually. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Mar 2020 12.14am)
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Originally posted by Mapletree
That just means nothing Try getting some facts. I suggest The Kings Fund as a good place to start. Your post means nothing. Instead of whingeing try getting behind the government for the good of the nation at a time of crisis. Everyone except Corbyn and some of his acolytes appear to be accepting this. The Labour mayor of Manchester is a beacon of sense in all his statements on LBC radio. The government is doing its best so try being constructive for a change.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I thought Tom was being rather kind actually. By calling me a loser? I am actually feckin angry. Running Care Homes with no ability to test for the disease is a nightmare. I am project managing a life and death response at the moment. We couldn’t get PPE, no tests, can’t move out anyone if they get sick, very high mortality rate for our age group. It didn’t have to be this way and I ain’t happy.
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Originally posted by Jamesey
Your post means nothing. Instead of whingeing try getting behind the government for the good of the nation at a time of crisis. Everyone except Corbyn and some of his acolytes appear to be accepting this. The Labour mayor of Manchester is a beacon of sense in all his statements on LBC radio. The government is doing its best so try being constructive for a change. I am behind everyone doing something about this. Where did I say I wasn’t. Doesn’t mean I can’t criticise why this happened does it. However I could not let the assertion ‘handled brilliantly by the cons’ slide by. For example we were offered 5,000 ventilators but dithered until they were gone. Handled brilliantly? Edited by Mapletree (29 Mar 2020 12.19am)
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Originally posted by Mapletree
By calling me a loser? I am actually feckin angry. Running Care Homes with no ability to test for the disease is a nightmare. I am project managing a life and death response at the moment. We couldn’t get PPE, no tests, can’t move out anyone if they get sick, very high mortality rate for our age group. It didn’t have to be this way and I ain’t happy. I would hardly accuse the government of not working hard on this problem. The kits will come as fast as they come.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I would hardly accuse the government of not working hard on this problem. The kits will come as fast as they come. 5,000 ventilators ready to ship. EU procurement initiative overlooked. Lock down coming too late. Staffing crisis. Bed crisis. Social work crisis. Do me a favour.
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Originally posted by Mapletree
5,000 ventilators ready to ship. EU procurement initiative overlooked. Lock down coming too late. Staffing crisis. Bed crisis. Social work crisis. Do me a favour. I wonder how Qatar is doing.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I wonder how Qatar is doing. One death. What’s that got to do with anything? Simple deflection. Did you read the link about the 5,000 ventilators?
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Originally posted by Mapletree
One death. What’s that got to do with anything? Simple deflection. Did you read the link about the 5,000 ventilators? Yes it was simple deflection...You don't like it either do you. No, I didn't click on the link.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Yes it was simple deflection...You don't like it either do you. No, I didn't click on the link. Your usual practice of cerebral hygiene. Auguste Comte would be impressed
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Your usual practice of cerebral hygiene. Auguste Comte would be impressed Go to bed, you read like you need the sleep.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Go to bed, you read like you need the sleep. Thank you for your concern. Could be the 15 hour days 7 days a week trying to keep1700 over 55s safe.
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Thank you for your concern. Could be the 15 hour days 7 days a week trying to keep1700 over 55s safe. I'm sure you moaning on Hol will help. I preferred it when you were storming the Iranian embassy back in 80.
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Thank you for your concern. Could be the 15 hour days 7 days a week trying to keep1700 over 55s safe. So where were your contingency plans if you knew this was coming for 20 years. You had a duty of care to your clients and clearly failed and now want to blame someone. Where are your masks,aprons and ventilators for this 'known' pandemic. Have you got enough sanitizer and other cleaners. Any chance you have copy or your 'pandemic' procedures (in case of) that you can link. Site specific outbreaks you will have as all homes do but as we all know this is not one of those. I doubt you have so shouting from the rooftops about how bad the government have done should really be a whisper into your dictaphone. "Must try harder".
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Originally posted by cryrst
So where were your contingency plans if you knew this was coming for 20 years. You had a duty of care to your clients and clearly failed and now want to blame someone. Where are your masks,aprons and ventilators for this 'known' pandemic. Have you got enough sanitizer and other cleaners. Any chance you have copy or your 'pandemic' procedures (in case of) that you can link. Site specific outbreaks you will have as all homes do but as we all know this is not one of those. I doubt you have so shouting from the rooftops about how bad the government have done should really be a whisper into your dictaphone. "Must try harder". I wrote them years ago for another organisation. I only recently joined this one. We had contingency plans that relied on local authority plans. Their plans assumed the NHS would deliver its part. The NHS plans presumably assumed the Government would not drop the ball. The only way to plan is in an integrated way. So it’s our fault the promised PPE didn’t arrive? Beyond a joke.
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Originally posted by Mapletree
That just means nothing Try getting some facts. I suggest The Kings Fund as a good place to start. There is nothing factual about The Kings Fund. It’s a left wing think tank. Bless you, your naivety is adorable
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
There is nothing factual about The Kings Fund. It’s a left wing think tank. Bless you, your naivety is adorable Where the hell did you ‘learn’ that? You are wrong.
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I wrote them years ago for another organisation. I only recently joined this one. We had contingency plans that relied on local authority plans. Their plans assumed the NHS would deliver its part. The NHS plans presumably assumed the Government would not drop the ball. The only way to plan is in an integrated way. So it’s our fault the promised PPE didn’t arrive? Beyond a joke. You didnt use the 6 p's then maple.
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Originally posted by cryrst
You didnt use the 6 p's then maple. Government policy was to emasculate our business which is charitable. It required us to take a reduction in income of 12% over the past four years to pay for its austerity strategy, despite the costs rocketing due to the minimum wage rises. As a result there was no hope we could prepare properly for this risk. We were too busy using any reserves we had to pay for our Grenfell response. Edited by Mapletree (29 Mar 2020 12.44pm)
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