No, he didn't, Nick. Not by any measurement did he do well. Not as well as either Miliband or Kinnock, both of whom had the dignity and common decency to stand down.

When is the Queens speech anyone? I really do think parliament should be convening in this hour of tragedy. Questions need to be asked and legislation put in place asap. We can't be in a state of flux for too long.

When is the Queens speech anyone? I really do think parliament should be convening in this hour of tragedy. Questions need to be asked and legislation put in place asap. We can't be in a state of flux for too long.

No, he didn't, Nick. Not by any measurement did he do well. Not as well as Brown, Miliband or Kinnock, all of whom had the dignity and common decency to stand down.

Edited by Cucking Funt (15 Jun 2017 12.40am)

Why would he stand down? He closed nearly a 20 point gap in the polls in an election where it was assumed that the Tories would greatly increase their majority leaving a hung parliament and a Tory party in disarray.

The momentum is with Labour and Corbyn now seems to have galvanised the party and won over a lot of the public.

The fact that more people in work, more educated, and every age group under 50 voted more for Labour than the Tories shows that the Tories are on the ropes.

Once the economic side effects of Brexit truly hit this is a lame duck government which could be obliterated whenever the next general election ends up being.

One of the more interesting stats from the election vote was the every group of working age people, irrespective of whether they are full time, part time, unemployed etc. voted for Labour by 4% or more above the Tory vote.

The only employment status group to vote in favour of the Tories were retired people.

Would appear to me that the promise of an unsustainable amount of free stuff is what smashed the demographics. I know three sets of parents who voted Corbyn (having previously voted Tory) because he promised to get rid of their children's student debt. Who wouldn't want that to happen for their children? But more to the point, who's actually going to pay for it?

The Labour manifesto was irresponsible and absurd. In another post you called the current government a lame duck in waiting. Perhaps you're right. But a year of Corbyn in power would obliterate the Labour party for good. Marxism never works.

I could f*cking murder Theresa May for calling this election. It was completely unnecessary and it has backfired on her party, but much more importantly her country, massively.

Labour's fully costed manifesto that brings the UK into line with many other northern European countries you mean?

Many of the policies are totally manageable, and increasing tax burdens marginally on the highest earners and companies (again to bring them more in line with OEDC) is hardly irresponsible or absurd.

Have self-censored my little joke about Peter Mandelson.

Edited by hedgehog50 (15 Jun 2017 6.59am)

If you read the Labour manifesto it tells you how it is to be paid for. i.e. by big companies, by restoring the level of corporation tax to where it was before the Tories started cutting it.
Marxism is not on Labour's agenda (as I should know because I am a Marxist)as it is not advocating that the proletariat should expropriate the property of the capitalists.