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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
So was the last leader not competent? Not as a leader, no.
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Originally posted by Willo
Starmer is just another 'Leftie' who wants common ownership of rail,water etc, to tax the rich and to raise Corporation Tax. I recall some while back getting into a frog-eyed frenzy about the Labour Party and someone responding by asserting that I was a right-wing, bigotted ERG Tory.I don't think he is alone in forming such a conclusion! To be honest I have NO desire to spend any time debating about Starmer and his dastardly Labour Party so this is my last post on this thread.In actual fact I will not take the trouble to peruse it. Edited by Willo (04 Apr 2020 11.32am) You know he’s a good choice when he’s put the willies up the derrière of our Tory cheerleader from the Victorian era.
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Starmer looks like a leader, and that’s more than JC ever did.
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Originally posted by georgenorman
When Corbyn resigned, practically every Labour MP, when asked, said that the next leader must be a woman. They are all very quite about that now. I hope that the Chancellor is the next PM, Labour always banging on about diversity and equality the Tories just get on with it.
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Originally posted by DanH
You know he’s a good choice when he’s put the willies up the derrière of our Tory cheerleader from the Victorian era. How do you know that? The announcement has only just been made, hasn't it?
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Originally posted by DanH
Not as a leader, no.
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Originally posted by Matov
Labour 2020. If they were anymore funny, they would be tragic. Good summary. He has a mountain to climb and Momentum won't go away, elections are meaningless to many of their supporters so they will dig into the party bureaucracy and hold the levers of power he will have to wrench them away.
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Originally posted by georgenorman
When Corbyn resigned, practically every Labour MP, when asked, said that the next leader must be a woman. They are all very quite about that now. Quite what??
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
I feel history will be kind to him, with his constant bleating about a better funded and prepared NHS, time will tell when we count the bodies!
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Originally posted by croydon proud
I feel history will be kind to him, with his constant bleating about a better funded and prepared NHS, time will tell when we count the bodies! Nobody remembers the losers.
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Originally posted by croydon proud
I feel history will be kind to him, with his constant bleating about a better funded and prepared NHS, time will tell when we count the bodies! In the same way Julian Clary would have been a great boxing champion if he’d only had the chance.
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Originally posted by croydon proud
I feel history will be kind to him, with his constant bleating about a better funded and prepared NHS, time will tell when we count the bodies! The thing is that nobody could see this current f*** up coming and that with the glorious gift of hindsight, then yes, things could have been done differently. But that is the same of almost any and every country. Also, once we are over this crisis, we are in new political waters. And ones in which certain ideas that Corbyn was proposing might find a more sympathetic ear for. Problem is that the Left are so rigid in terms of their wider orthodoxy around identity politics that they will simply remain unelectable. They have gone so far to the extremes on many issues they are simply institutionally unable to step back from them. They lack the political nous to take advantage of it and into the void will step elements of the far-right who have always been economically far closer to the left than people realise. But that recipie of socially conservative values allied with left-wing economic policies has a rather unfortunate history. Because whilst people might want a lot more Government intervention in the coming years I also suspect that notions such as more open borders and so on will not go down well. Globalization, as it is currently understood, is dead in the water. The battle for what follows it is what will define the next 100 years. And the Left lack the populist instinct to benefit from that. All they are proposing is even more of it.
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Originally posted by DanH
Pleased it’s Big Kier. Someone competent to put the boot up the charlatan in charge will hopefully help. Comedy gold. A knighted millionaire who wanted to defy democracy to further his career is the new saviour of the working class. Please. Never stop being funny.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Comedy gold. A knighted millionaire who wanted to defy democracy to further his career is the new saviour of the working class. Please. Never stop being funny. But,but,but.Don't forget his dad was a toolmaker.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Comedy gold. A knighted millionaire who wanted to defy democracy to further his career is the new saviour of the working class. Please. Never stop being funny. Far more qualified to run the country than the second rate journalist currently attempting it.
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Originally posted by DanH
Far more qualified to run the country than the second rate journalist currently attempting it. You may be correct with his qualifications compared to boris but he isnt and never will run the country.
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His advisors have told him to run for the Israeli Presidency. Heard he is as popular there as he is in Scotland.
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Originally posted by DanH
Far more qualified to run the country than the second rate journalist currently attempting it. I'm sure the people will forget how he tried to cheat them out of Brexit for his own ends in about 50 years time.
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Originally posted by croydon proud
I feel history will be kind to him, with his constant bleating about a better funded and prepared NHS, time will tell when we count the bodies! If Corbyn had kept his commitments to a better funded NHS / Social care you would have a point. I suspect that he might have won the GE on that platform. The problem was his irresponsible fiscal commitments on all the other sectors of the economy probably frightened off the voters. The lesson for Labour is to focus on a few specific pledges that they can demonstrate to the public can be funded. I got the impression that Corbyn and his chancellor were making it up as they went along promising all things to all people. Practical politicians understand that you cannot solve all of the problems at once you have to prioritise.
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