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 Penge Eagle  Beckenham 02 Jun 19 2.50pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Hmm, on one hand a POTUS commented on a political point. On the other a POTUS appears to have tried to influence who will be the next Prime Minister. Of course these two things are the same. There was no Tory leadership election when Obama said the UK would be at the “back of the queue” in any trade deal with the US if the country chose to leave the EU. So not a real comparison. Trump says the UK will be front of the queue and that's meant to be a bad thing?!
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| Stirlingsays 02 Jun 19 3.39pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Hmm, on one hand a POTUS commented on a political point. On the other a POTUS appears to have tried to influence who will be the next Prime Minister. Of course these two things are the same. In any case, get used to it. POTUS will be selecting our PMs from now on, whether directly or indirectly. The USA has longed for this day ever since it was formed.
I of course had no real issues with Obama saying what he did, just as I have no issues with what Trump said. I just commented on Wisbech's overt one eyed commentary......You know that of course which is why you jumped in over political tribalism....but that's cool....do it myself. As for the usual anti US sentiment....sorry Maple, just as you are a EU-phile I'm a US-phile, while recognising issues as they come up and also supporting the EU skeptics/the right in the EU. Americans are our cousins....well two thirds of them are.....and Trump actually cares about British sovereignty, while Obama wanted what you want. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Jun 2019 3.40pm)
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 02 Jun 19 3.39pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
So according to Wisbech if you are Obama commenting on the Brexit affair you are just 'stating the truth'. Whereas if you are Trump and commenting your are making, 'inflammatory statements' and 'interfering in our politics!' 'Trump is interfering. Obama was observing from a US perspective. The first is offensive. The second isn't.'
I think you guys are coming to the same conclusion that I did with this chap. I mentally edited him out pretty much the first time he posted.
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| Mapletree Croydon 02 Jun 19 4.05pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I of course had no real issues with Obama saying what he did, just as I have no issues with what Trump said. I just commented on Wisbech's overt one eyed commentary......You know that of course which is why you jumped in over political tribalism....but that's cool....do it myself. As for the usual anti US sentiment....sorry Maple, just as you are a EU-phile I'm a US-phile, while recognising issues as they come up and also supporting the EU skeptics/the right in the EU. Americans are our cousins....well two thirds of them are.....and Trump actually cares about British sovereignty, while Obama wanted what you want. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Jun 2019 3.40pm) I speak only for myself Your naivety is breathtaking. Like everyone else, and certainly more than most, the US looks to its self-interests. You can ask a few countries south of the border. Trump nakedly admits that he is only interested in the welfare of the US. The UK is simply a resource as far as the US is concerned. That attitude also applies to the EU countries. The thing is that their objectives align a little more closely to ours.
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| Mapletree Croydon 02 Jun 19 4.06pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
I mentally edited him out pretty much the first time he posted. Ah, cerebral hygiene rears its head again. There's only so much space in there.
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| Stirlingsays 02 Jun 19 4.16pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I speak only for myself Your naivety is breathtaking. Like everyone else, and certainly more than most, the US looks to its self-interests. You can ask a few countries south of the border. Trump nakedly admits that he is only interested in the welfare of the US. The UK is simply a resource as far as the US is concerned. That attitude also applies to the EU countries. The thing is that their objectives align a little more closely to ours. Not really Maple, it's more naive that you think I'm naive. Of course each country's first interest should be itself. This is about where a country's best interests lie. That you would even bring this obvious point into the discussion feels like a waste of commentary. However, for you to ignore preference and the relations and historical ties is just to close your eyes to reality. In my analysis I'd say that it's in the UK's best interests to be the chief supporting act to the US.....until it breaks up. I don't see a successful EU staying together either and give that far less time......federalists need to stop trying to force pieces into a jigsaw that's not going to work. It's in the UK's interests to not be submerged into any organisation but remain as a bridge and outlier....with its own military and its own independent political will. The US and Europe know where our loyalties lie......well, the majority of us....currently that is. Cleverly constructed alignments....not no choice unions. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Jun 2019 4.18pm)
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| Mapletree Croydon 02 Jun 19 4.24pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
In my analysis I'd say that it's in the UK's best interests to be the chief supporting act to the US.....until it breaks up. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Jun 2019 4.18pm) Of course it is. The EU, taken as a whole is the UK’s largest trading partner. In 2017, UK exports to the EU were £274 billion (44% of all UK exports). UK imports from the EU were £341 billion (53% of all UK imports). U.S. goods and services trade with United Kingdom totaled an estimated $262.3 billion in 2018. Exports from the US were $141.1 billion; imports to the US were $121.2 billion.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 02 Jun 19 4.27pm |
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regarding his attitude to Trump, Sadiq Khan is a thundering disgrace. i want to bedeck his trains with adverts of scantily clad women. Just to offend his religious fundamentalist 'modesty'
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| Badger11 Beckenham 02 Jun 19 4.34pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I speak only for myself Your naivety is breathtaking. Like everyone else, and certainly more than most, the US looks to its self-interests. You can ask a few countries south of the border. Trump nakedly admits that he is only interested in the welfare of the US. The UK is simply a resource as far as the US is concerned. That attitude also applies to the EU countries. The thing is that their objectives align a little more closely to ours. Farage was asked what if the US tried to stitch us up in a trade deal. "If it's a bad deal then dont't sign it". Seems pretty obvious to me although I wouldn't put anything past our politicians.
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| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 02 Jun 19 5.03pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Ah, cerebral hygiene rears its head again. There's only so much space in there. Consider yourself privileged that you are permitted in the marbled halls.
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| Mapletree Croydon 02 Jun 19 5.06pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Consider yourself privileged that you are permitted in the marbled halls. Blimey, do you actually absorb the sh*te I write? I recommend you buy some mental floss quick.
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| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 02 Jun 19 5.11pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Blimey, do you actually absorb the sh*te I write? I recommend you buy some mental floss quick. I read your posts because I respect your opinion, you articulate your points well (whilst I seldom agree with them) and you're frequently entertaining and not a snotty git.
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