Isn’t that how they get Chelsea fans?

Why shave it.

Would mandatory reselection make that much difference under normal circumstances though? Certainly under Corbyn I think it would have done, negatively in my opinion.

Vive le Roy!

I have no axe to grind in internal Labour party politics but you did lose that GE so not surprising that some of your hard working members were fed up.

What was surprising was the number of senior Labour politicians who the next day were behaving as though Corbyn had won and had to be reminded of the result.

I don't doubt that the Blair faction were working on getting rid of Corbyn but this is no different to the far left working against the moderate Labour leaders of the past forty years, Corbyn especially, now they getting a taste of their own medicine.

Politics is a dirty business, “Greater love hath no man than than to lay down a colleagues life for oneself.”

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One more point

That report is incredible. If Labour was facing a civil war before this then it is about to move on to a whole new level.

How Starmer faces this first internal crisis will I suspect define how the rest of his tenure goes.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

The left eating their own is a quite apt and the truth it appears.

Yup. The basic summary of these leaks is that there were many in the party - including those at the highest echelons - who wanted the Tories to win in 2017.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

I really think you’re talking this up to be something it’s not. It’s common knowledge the majority of Labour MPs and long time members didn’t like Corbyn. Much like most of the electorate. Hardly surprising that these sort of conversations took place.

Vive le Roy!

Again unsurprising, and I understand that Coronavirus is dominating the news agenda, but...

How is their not a single mention of this story on the BBC or the majority of the mainstream media? Not even a single tweet from a BBC political journalist?

Labour HQ were essentially working for a Tory win in the 2017 election. Surely that warrants at least a passing reference?

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

If you want to run any organisation, you require a hierarchy structure. Nothing old fashioned about that, just the way of the world.

Labour really have no logical reason for existing anymore. Saw some polling recently in which members were asked what of the following three statements should best represent Labour.

1. Getting rid of Capitalism and replacing it them with a fair economic system.

2. Representing and standing up for working-class people and their values.

3. Building a society which is fair for everyone whatever their background, gender, race or sexuality.

And the results were.

1. 20%

2. 12%

3. 67%

( I would guess the other 1% ticked the 'other' box)

Now the third option is clearly all lovely and cuddly but it is also not what the Labour Party were founded for and shows an incredible lack of understanding of the parties history. Only 12% get that.

They are f***ed. They really are.

With the biggest irony of this current s*** storm being that they are arguing about the result of the 2017 election rather than the 2019 one. Much more comfortable going over what might have been rather than what actually was.

Heads in the sand does not even come close.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.