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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 17 Jun 17 1.39pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

If you say so.

Gusset and pals at a Corbyn rally.

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 17 Jun 17 1.58pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Gusset and pals at a Corbyn rally.

Nothing has changed in 2000 years. Some people still think that a beardy with an agenda will make their life better.

 

chateauferret Flag 17 Jun 17 3.11pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

What motivation do people of great ability have if all they get are their needs?

I think the problem is that people take it to mean "jedem bloß nach seinen Bedürfnissen".

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 18 Jun 17 6.43am

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Gusset and pals at a Corbyn rally.

Reminded me of donald trump dancing with the saudi princes/kings and turning to his mrs and saying,,,,,beautiful,,,beautiful !

 

CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 19 Jun 17 12.45pm

Read this in the NYT and thought of this thread:

What are these zombies of which I speak? Among wonks, the term refers to policy ideas that should have been abandoned long ago in the face of evidence and experience, but just keep shambling along.

The right’s zombie-in-chief is the insistence that low taxes on the rich are the key to prosperity. This doctrine should have died when Bill Clinton’s tax hike failed to cause the predicted recession and was followed instead by an economic boom. It should have died again when George W. Bush’s tax cuts were followed by lackluster growth, then a crash. And it should have died yet again in the aftermath of the 2013 Obama tax hike — partly expiration of some Bush tax cuts, partly new taxes to pay for Obamacare — when the economy continued jogging along, adding 200,000 jobs a month.

Despite the consistent wrongness of their predictions, however, tax-cut fanatics just kept gaining influence in the G.O.P. — until the disaster in Kansas, where Gov. Sam Brownback promised that deep tax cuts would yield an economic miracle. What the state got instead was weak growth and a fiscal crisis, finally pushing even Republicans to vote for tax hikes, overruling Brownback’s veto.

 

Sportyteacher Flag London 19 Jun 17 12.54pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

Reminded me of donald trump dancing with the saudi princes/kings and turning to his mrs and saying,,,,,beautiful,,,beautiful !

And then there was Theresa May's recent meeting with Saudi Crown Prince regarding trade talks e.g. chemical weaponry ; ammunition etc

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Love the line about Theresa May wanting to be a role model to Saudi young girls - don't be influenced by Theresa as to how you can become 'strong and stable' as long as you 'have a job to get on with'....

 

Kermit8 Flag Hevon 19 Jun 17 1.40pm

Survation latest poll (they predicted Hung P)

Con 39%, Lab 45%, Lib Dems 7%, UKIP 3%, Others 6%

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 19 Jun 17 1.44pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Survation latest poll (they predicted Hung P)

Con 39%, Lab 45%, Lib Dems 7%, UKIP 3%, Others 6%

Not what I want to see but very interesting.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays Flag 19 Jun 17 1.46pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Gusset and pals at a Corbyn rally.

One of the greatest comedies ever made.

It hit the nail on the head so many times.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 19 Jun 17 4.27pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Gusset and pals at a Corbyn rally.

The only difference to yours then, is the lack of pointy hoods?

 


"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 19 Jun 17 4.29pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

What motivation do people of great ability have if all they get are their needs?

Their wants. No one is motivated by their needs (well they are, but not in this sense). People are more motivated to achieve their desires.

The motivations to achieve needs, are much darker drives, which its probably wise to avoid relying on.

 


"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 19 Jun 17 4.39pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Survation latest poll (they predicted Hung P)

Con 39%, Lab 45%, Lib Dems 7%, UKIP 3%, Others 6%

Inevitable given recent events.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 19 Jun 17 4.51pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Their wants. No one is motivated by their needs (well they are, but not in this sense). People are more motivated to achieve their desires.

The motivations to achieve needs, are much darker drives, which its probably wise to avoid relying on.

Capitalism is the recognition of human nature independent of ethics.

Socialism is the ignoring or ignorance of human nature in hope of a more equal world.

An intelligent meshing of the two hopefully filters out the worse of both and enhances the best.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 19 Jun 17 5.10pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Survation latest poll (they predicted Hung P)

Con 39%, Lab 45%, Lib Dems 7%, UKIP 3%, Others 6%

Does not change the fact that the Tories won the GE and are still in power and Corbyn is not in No 10

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 19 Jun 17 5.24pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Capitalism is the recognition of human nature independent of ethics.

Socialism is the ignoring or ignorance of human nature in hope of a more equal world.

An intelligent meshing of the two hopefully filters out the worse of both and enhances the best.

I generally agree with this.

Capitalism I think represents more of a reality where people cannot be trusted to be moral. Socialism relies on the requirement that people are moral.

Capitalism and Socialism are both ignorant of human nature (Capitalism fails to understand non-financial human motivation, Socialism fails to understand that humans are individuals first and foremost). The Third world is an inevitable consequence of capitalism, and oppressive regimes are the end result of total socialism.

Either one, devoid of the critical position of the other, are effectively socially harmful, in that the provide an immediate imbalance of corruptive power and

Of course that means Liberalism. Which ironically, I'd argue is probably the political movement that has done the most good in the UK in the last 200 years, and that everyone else tries to claim the credit for.

 


"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 19 Jun 17 5.27pm

Originally posted by susmik

Does not change the fact that the Tories won the GE and are still in power and Corbyn is not in No 10

People who think solely in terms of parties winning the general election, fail to understand representative democracy. We shouldn't care so much about the parties, and be more focused on ensuring the people who we elect to represent us, represent the constituents.

Neither side actually won the election, as neither could form a government. The Conservatives however could achieve a government, if they could win over the DUP.

So arguably the only party that won the general election was the DUP, as they formed a government.

 


"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 19 Jun 17 5.27pm

Originally posted by susmik

Does not change the fact that the Tories won the GE and are still in power and Corbyn is not in No 10

No-one won the GE which is why they are operating as a minority government. How long they can steer that rudderless ship before it hits the rocks and smashes into smithereens is anyone's guess but I wouldn't be to optimistic of them being in power for the full term.

If another GE was held soon you and I both know the Tories would be even more worse off...unless they can pull that magic rabbit out of the hat.

 


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CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 19 Jun 17 5.55pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Capitalism is the recognition of human nature independent of ethics.

Socialism is the ignoring or ignorance of human nature in hope of a more equal world.

An intelligent meshing of the two hopefully filters out the worse of both and enhances the best.

It's about getting the right balance!

 

CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 19 Jun 17 6.03pm

Originally posted by susmik

Does not change the fact that the Tories won the GE and are still in power and Corbyn is not in No 10

I think you'll find everyone lost.

The poll is interesting now as it gives the Tories a conundrum whether to limp on as best they can, having to deal with the zealots in the DUP on every vote and having to prop up a lame duck PM, or instead topple May and go for another GE ASAP and aim to actually win it this time.

 

susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 19 Jun 17 7.21pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

No-one won the GE which is why they are operating as a minority government. How long they can steer that rudderless ship before it hits the rocks and smashes into smithereens is anyone's guess but I wouldn't be to optimistic of them being in power for the full term.

If another GE was held soon you and I both know the Tories would be even more worse off...unless they can pull that magic rabbit out of the hat.

More rubbish from you kermit8 how can you say no one won the election if that was the case no 10 would be empty right now. OK so May has to run without an outright majority and has the DPU to prop up the government but at least that loser Corbyn is not in charge thank god as that would have been a disaster and the country would run into so much debt we would sink this time. Have to keep him out and all his "Freebies" he promised the youth. They fell for it as they would when offered a load of stuff free forgetting that someone has to pay for it and there is no Golden Goose at the end!

 


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