It's his legacy that worries me. He and his friends have managed to infiltrate the Labour party from grass roots all the way up, Starmer has a job on his hands to bring Labour back to the centre ground.

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Quasi-socialist measures, implemented by a sensible, centrist government. As opposed to socialist measures implemented by Marxist lunatics.

Big difference.

Thank god they only stay in place during a pandemic we would be f***ed of we done it in normal time.

I'd like to see the nasty old man chucked out of the Labour Party. He'd be much happier on the outside firing in and he can sit around chatting with his mates in Hamas to his heart's content. From there he can slowly decline into rabid senility and sprout his antisemitism all day long. The damage Corbyn and his like have to Labour is enormous.

Quite possibly the last potential prime minister in our lifetimes with a principled mission in politics beyond self-gain.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

Hard to disagree with much of that. It was always a bit of damp squib really in that when push comes to shove the attempts to equate anti-semitism with criticism of Isrealis policies falls down pretty much at the first corner of any kind of rigourous examination. Which ultimately is really the crux of it all.

But lets be honest, a significant proportion of the Left feel Israel should not exist in the first place. Which is a lot more dubious.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

And Starmer was at the top table. His influence was plain to see given that he led the charge for the insane second referendum policy that done Labours legs.

Starmer was a MAJOR player in the Corbyn leadership. And yet appears to be getting off with not even a tap on the wrists.

Now you now my stance on Starmer being a fully paid up stooge but how he seems to be swerving any of the blame for this is beyond me.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Typical of that virtue signalling momentum lot. So full of their own bulls*** they refuse to acknowledge they have any flaws.

JC started his statement "Antisemitism is abhorrent", using inflated adjectives to try and display false sincerity from the man who called Hamas and Hezbollah his friends.

Corbyn has taken no responsibility to any defeat he or the Labour Party have suffered at the polling booth.

Sadly, I think it will be very difficult to expel him as his supporters are excellent at playing the victim.

I think the main purpose of the report was to confirm that anti-Semitism was not being tackled by the Labour Party rather than a witch hunt against individuals.

Bearing in mind that people who work for the EHRC are likely to be sympathetic to the political left the report is quite clear that investigations were interfered with by the senior leadership.

As I have said before in any large organisation you will always get some people with offensive ideas and that includes the other political parties so this was never about Labour people are bad Tories good.

The issue EHRC looked at is how you tackle the complaints, is it done fairly and in a timely manner, in Labour's case it clearly wasn't. None of this precludes individuals pursuing legal cases for or against the report or the party and no doubt these will drag on.

Starmer has done the right thing in accepting the report and apologising. The blame game and politicking will now start within the party and no doubt Starmer will use it to strengthen his hand.

As for Corbyn it was on his watch and if he didn't personally interfere then people his office did as the reports states which then highlights his poor management skills.

Whichever you look at it this is a day of shame for the Labour Party which I hope they will now recover from.

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Wow. I take everything I previously said back!

The people who run Labour HQ - and have done since Blair - are absolute idiots. Like, how stupid do you have to be to make a martyr of Corbyn, even when the report didn't advise you to, and enflame the whole war again?

These are people who step out of their PPE degrees straight in to politics without a clue about the real world or how to operate in serious situations. They held a prejudice against Corbyn because he threatened their comofortable lifestyles running the machine of one of the most bloated and dysfunctional political parties in Europe. And they've now allowed their vengeance to spill over when there was absolutely no need.

And Starmer is responsible. Whether he pushed for his suspension or not, he has caved in to the loony right here, and he's started a war. That's what it will be from here.

To say they are clowns in a circus is to be too cruel to clowns.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4