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Originally posted by hedgehog50
What about the slightly rational left-wing Brexiters like Attlee, Foot, Benn, Skinner, Corbyn, McDonnell, Galloway, Scargill ... Edited by hedgehog50 (20 Jun 2017 7.21pm) They have/had their opinions but I don't think they would have been caught nodding in the direction of Nige with his populist mumbo-jumbo and rabble-rousing.
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
But you must be pleased if your belief that mass immigration will continue is correct? What is the cut off point between immigration becoming mass immigration?
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Originally posted by Kermit8
They have/had their opinions but I don't think they would have been caught nodding in the direction of Nige with his populist mumbo-jumbo and rabble-rousing. That's a good description of most of Corbyn's utterances.
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Originally posted by Kermit8
What is the cut off point between immigration becoming mass immigration? What from my point of view? Anything over zero.
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Originally posted by Kermit8
As time goes on the stupidity of the referendum becomes more and more apparent every day. Edited by Kermit8 (20 Jun 2017 6.46pm) Remaining in the EU was and is the far worse option. Though not if you are of the new 'progressive' far left...I accept that. Their worldview is not a world I think is achievable and ultimately worsens outcomes. Economically long term being outside the EU will also be the better option. That's independent of whether it stays together or not....But much more so if it breaks up. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jun 2017 8.41pm)
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Originally posted by nickgusset
As you lot are talking about the Brexit,I'll bring it on track and recommend this podcast about the different possible outcomes for the current state of play... No thanks Nick....I think you have popped your cork as an objective observer. I have no interest in listening to one eyed perspectives.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
No thanks Nick....I think you have popped your cork as an objective observer. I have no interest in listening to one eyed perspectives. Shame, it's an interesting listen. Funny because I do like different perspectives, I even listen to Farage on Lbc.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Shame, it's an interesting listen. Funny because I do like different perspectives, I even listen to Farage on Lbc. Well if you do listen to different perspectives I will pay in kind and give this a listen.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
For me, the benefits of Brexit are a generational thing. I have always expected it to make the country poorer in the short term. It will be a rocky five years....things won't get better till around 2025. I say this but in truth the extent of this all depends upon the deal anyway. That's if the EU actually stays together.....which is probably an evens bet. If it breaks up we will suffer less than we would if we were in...even though we would still suffer. The capacity to make our own deals will be an extremely important factor and will eventually start to see us doing a little better around 2030. That's how I see it objectively....in terms of the country's finances. For me this was always a long term decision in terms of economics. Immigration and population control was the biggest factor for me. We are yet to really know how this is going to pan out. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jun 2017 5.51pm) I'll give you evens on that. I'll PM you my bank details.
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
I'll give you evens on that. I'll PM you my bank details.
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
Dear left, Enjoy your "day of rage" temper tantrum today. I'll be working and paying taxes towards the added burden this will place on public services. Dear business owners, If and when they get violent today, prevent your business from being targeted by sticking a "Job Centre" sign on your door. Ha ha ha
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Queen's speech was pretty ropy. Tories ignored the fact that people are sick of austerity and them undermining public services. They are heading towards a spanking at the next GE. They are in a hole and they keep digging. At least they ditched grammar schools, fox hunting, dementia tax, scrapping free school meals... When is the debate on the speech?
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Originally posted by nickgusset
When is the debate on the speech? Now...
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Listening to Corbyn's speech in the debate, he seems to be going even further left. Expected him to say "all power to the Soviets" at some point. Banged on about re-nationalising the railways so that they are owned by the people and run for the people. I'm old enough to remember when they were last nationalised, as one of the people who apparently owned them, all I can remember is miserable, scruffy staff telling you that you could always walk if you didn't like it, when you complained about late trains, dirty overcrowded carriages and constant fare rises. Edited by hedgehog50 (21 Jun 2017 6.24pm) You obviously haven't commuted in London since the nineties or earlier if ever.
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Originally posted by Kermit8
You obviously haven't commuted in London since the nineties or earlier if ever. In fairness, the commuter trains in and out of London were always sh*te pre and post privatisation.
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