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Hrolf The Ganger 21 Aug 20 3.26pm
Originally posted by sotac464 No club on this earth is going to pay £80 million for him. What if he goes to a new club and they don't want to buy him at the end of the loan? We end up with a 28 year old Zaha, whose value would have diminished even more so than it has over the past year. Our biggest hope is he goes abroad, maybe PSG and we get circa £40 million for him, at best. My biggest hope is that he stays because without him we are going to be relegated for sure, unless the board spends more money than they ever have before. Only Palace fans would be keen to sell their best ever player. Other clubs are strengthening and we are going backwards.

Hrolf The Ganger

21 Aug 20 3.26pm

Originally posted by sotac464

No club on this earth is going to pay £80 million for him. What if he goes to a new club and they don't want to buy him at the end of the loan?

We end up with a 28 year old Zaha, whose value would have diminished even more so than it has over the past year.

Our biggest hope is he goes abroad, maybe PSG and we get circa £40 million for him, at best.

My biggest hope is that he stays because without him we are going to be relegated for sure, unless the board spends more money than they ever have before.

Only Palace fans would be keen to sell their best ever player.
Other clubs are strengthening and we are going backwards.

doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 21 Aug 20 3.50pm
Originally posted by Eaglehamster My impression was that we'd have to sell Wilf to finance the buying of Fraser. Is that not so? No. Fraser is a freebie. It's a question of wages and any 'signing on' fee.

doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 21 Aug 20 3.50pm

Originally posted by Eaglehamster

My impression was that we'd have to sell Wilf to finance the buying of Fraser. Is that not so?

No. Fraser is a freebie. It's a question of wages and any 'signing on' fee.

doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 21 Aug 20 3.53pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger My biggest hope is that he stays because without him we are going to be relegated for sure, unless the board spends more money than they ever have before. Only Palace fans would be keen to sell their best ever player. Other clubs are strengthening and we are going backwards. I disagree. We showed last year that we can survive comfortably with a fairly mediocre Zaha. If we do get Fraser plus a couple of others (and a couple of decent loans), we should be OK irrespective of whether Wilf goes or stays.

doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 21 Aug 20 3.53pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

My biggest hope is that he stays because without him we are going to be relegated for sure, unless the board spends more money than they ever have before.

Only Palace fans would be keen to sell their best ever player.
Other clubs are strengthening and we are going backwards.

I disagree. We showed last year that we can survive comfortably with a fairly mediocre Zaha. If we do get Fraser plus a couple of others (and a couple of decent loans), we should be OK irrespective of whether Wilf goes or stays.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 21 Aug 20 3.55pm
Originally posted by doombear No. Fraser is a freebie. It's a question of wages and any 'signing on' fee. As a current Head Coach of an EFL club said to me yesterday "There is no such thing as a free transfer" when I was mentioning clubs in the lower divisions that have signed players on a 'Free'. Edited by Willo (21 Aug 2020 3.56pm)

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 21 Aug 20 3.55pm

Originally posted by doombear

No. Fraser is a freebie. It's a question of wages and any 'signing on' fee.

As a current Head Coach of an EFL club said to me yesterday "There is no such thing as a free transfer" when I was mentioning clubs in the lower divisions that have signed players on a 'Free'.

Edited by Willo (21 Aug 2020 3.56pm)

sotac464 Berkshire 21 Aug 20 3.59pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger My biggest hope is that he stays because without him we are going to be relegated for sure, unless the board spends more money than they ever have before. Only Palace fans would be keen to sell their best ever player. Other clubs are strengthening and we are going backwards. He doesn't want to be here, and he has made that quite clear for the past 2 years now. My equalibrium unbalanced me. Paul Draper Brighton 19/2/2018

sotac464

Berkshire 21 Aug 20 3.59pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

My biggest hope is that he stays because without him we are going to be relegated for sure, unless the board spends more money than they ever have before.

Only Palace fans would be keen to sell their best ever player.
Other clubs are strengthening and we are going backwards.

He doesn't want to be here, and he has made that quite clear for the past 2 years now.

My equalibrium unbalanced me. Paul Draper Brighton 19/2/2018

kev64 Cambs 21 Aug 20 6.43pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger My biggest hope is that he stays because without him we are going to be relegated for sure, unless the board spends more money than they ever have before. Only Palace fans would be keen to sell their best ever player. Other clubs are strengthening and we are going backwards. ^^ he’s one of the most talented players Ive ever seem in red n blue, of course he wants to play on the biggest stage so to speak, unfortunately palace can’t give him that , let’s not forget what he has done for the club in the last 10 years or so. Roy and is mind numbing tactics have driven us to the brink not Wilf.

kev64

Cambs 21 Aug 20 6.43pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

My biggest hope is that he stays because without him we are going to be relegated for sure, unless the board spends more money than they ever have before.

Only Palace fans would be keen to sell their best ever player.
Other clubs are strengthening and we are going backwards.

^^ he’s one of the most talented players Ive ever seem in red n blue, of course he wants to play on the biggest stage so to speak, unfortunately palace can’t give him that , let’s not forget what he has done for the club in the last 10 years or so.

Roy and is mind numbing tactics have driven us to the brink not Wilf.

Painter Croydon 21 Aug 20 7.17pm
Originally posted by kev64 ^^ he’s one of the most talented players Ive ever seem in red n blue, of course he wants to play on the biggest stage so to speak, unfortunately palace can’t give him that , let’s not forget what he has done for the club in the last 10 years or so. Roy and is mind numbing tactics have driven us to the brink not Wilf. Are you including his move to Man Utd( a big stage )where he failed, then went on loan to Cardiff. Then we took him back and gave him a chance to flourish. Is that the Roy that has kept in the Premier with ease for the last 3 seasons with very squad investment. Lombardo was the most talented player in the past 50 years to wear a Palace shirt.

Painter

Croydon 21 Aug 20 7.17pm

Originally posted by kev64

Roy and is mind numbing tactics have driven us to the brink not Wilf.

Are you including his move to Man Utd( a big stage )where he failed, then went on loan to Cardiff. Then we took him back and gave him a chance to flourish.

Is that the Roy that has kept in the Premier with ease for the last 3 seasons with very squad investment.

Lombardo was the most talented player in the past 50 years to wear a Palace shirt.

southnorwoodhill 21 Aug 20 8.36pm
Originally posted by sotac464 No club on this earth is going to pay £80 million for him. What if he goes to a new club and they don't want to buy him at the end of the loan? We end up with a 28 year old Zaha, whose value would have diminished even more so than it has over the past year. Our biggest hope is he goes abroad, maybe PSG and we get circa £40 million for him, at best. That would be the PSG who have Mbappe, Di Maria, and Neymar? lol

southnorwoodhill

21 Aug 20 8.36pm

Originally posted by sotac464

No club on this earth is going to pay £80 million for him. What if he goes to a new club and they don't want to buy him at the end of the loan?

We end up with a 28 year old Zaha, whose value would have diminished even more so than it has over the past year.

Our biggest hope is he goes abroad, maybe PSG and we get circa £40 million for him, at best.

That would be the PSG who have Mbappe, Di Maria, and Neymar? lol

Canterbury Palace Whitstable 21 Aug 20 9.04pm
The problem with Wilf, other than him spending the last 15 months desperately trying to leave and being a bit of a dick about it, is that he has become fairly ineffective for us because teams know they can double/treble up on him and we haven't got the weapons elsewhere to punish them. It wasn't the case when we had Bolasie on the other side which is why they both did so well but, if we're being honest, Andros is a million miles from peak Bolasie. Obviously Fraser being pursued as a replacement but imagine if we ended up with both. Fraser on the left and Wilf on the right could cause absolute carnage. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

Canterbury Palace

Whitstable 21 Aug 20 9.04pm

The problem with Wilf, other than him spending the last 15 months desperately trying to leave and being a bit of a dick about it, is that he has become fairly ineffective for us because teams know they can double/treble up on him and we haven't got the weapons elsewhere to punish them.

It wasn't the case when we had Bolasie on the other side which is why they both did so well but, if we're being honest, Andros is a million miles from peak Bolasie.

Obviously Fraser being pursued as a replacement but imagine if we ended up with both. Fraser on the left and Wilf on the right could cause absolute carnage.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

kev64 Cambs 21 Aug 20 9.18pm
Originally posted by Painter Are you including his move to Man Utd( a big stage )where he failed, then went on loan to Cardiff. Then we took him back and gave him a chance to flourish. Is that the Roy that has kept in the Premier with ease for the last 3 seasons with very squad investment. Lombardo was the most talented player in the past 50 years to wear a Palace shirt. He only ‘failed’ as you chose to see it as, Moyes rocked up and clearly not only screwed Wilf over but put Man U back 5 years, Cardiff seriously think Wilf would perform for those clowns. As for Roy did you watch any games in the Season .. what was it 31 goals ?. We stayed up as there were 3 worse teams .. not because of Stella football, Yes Lombardo was for the season or so he was here, but Wilf has given what 14 years to this club .. Edited by kev64 (21 Aug 2020 9.20pm)

kev64

Cambs 21 Aug 20 9.18pm

Originally posted by Painter

Are you including his move to Man Utd( a big stage )where he failed, then went on loan to Cardiff. Then we took him back and gave him a chance to flourish.

Is that the Roy that has kept in the Premier with ease for the last 3 seasons with very squad investment.

Lombardo was the most talented player in the past 50 years to wear a Palace shirt.

He only ‘failed’ as you chose to see it as, Moyes rocked up and clearly not only screwed Wilf over but put Man U back 5 years, Cardiff seriously think Wilf would perform for those clowns.

As for Roy did you watch any games in the Season .. what was it 31 goals ?. We stayed up as there were 3 worse teams .. not because of Stella football,

Yes Lombardo was for the season or so he was here, but Wilf has given what 14 years to this club ..

Edited by kev64 (21 Aug 2020 9.20pm)

Phil’s Barber Crowborough 22 Aug 20 2.07am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger My biggest hope is that he stays because without him we are going to be relegated for sure, unless the board spends more money than they ever have before. Only Palace fans would be keen to sell their best ever player. Other clubs are strengthening and we are going backwards. He was next to useless last year (and more than likely a disruptive influence off the Pitch). No way was he the reason we stayed up last year.

Phil’s Barber

Crowborough 22 Aug 20 2.07am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

My biggest hope is that he stays because without him we are going to be relegated for sure, unless the board spends more money than they ever have before.

Only Palace fans would be keen to sell their best ever player.
Other clubs are strengthening and we are going backwards.

He was next to useless last year (and more than likely a disruptive influence off the Pitch). No way was he the reason we stayed up last year.

Painter Croydon 22 Aug 20 7.31am
Originally posted by kev64 He only ‘failed’ as you chose to see it as, Moyes rocked up and clearly not only screwed Wilf over but put Man U back 5 years, Cardiff seriously think Wilf would perform for those clowns. As for Roy did you watch any games in the Season .. what was it 31 goals ?. We stayed up as there were 3 worse teams .. not because of Stella football, Yes Lombardo was for the season or so he was here, but Wilf has given what 14 years to this club .. Edited by kev64 (21 Aug 2020 9.20pm) He can't hack it a big club, don't see why your blaming Moyes. If he had the right attitude and talent,he would of succeeded. I thought we finished 14th, so there were 6 worse teams than us! You agree that Lombardo was the most talented player to wear the shirt, how long for isn't a crieria . Edited by Painter (22 Aug 2020 8.53am)

Painter

Croydon 22 Aug 20 7.31am

Originally posted by kev64

He only ‘failed’ as you chose to see it as, Moyes rocked up and clearly not only screwed Wilf over but put Man U back 5 years, Cardiff seriously think Wilf would perform for those clowns.

As for Roy did you watch any games in the Season .. what was it 31 goals ?. We stayed up as there were 3 worse teams .. not because of Stella football,

Yes Lombardo was for the season or so he was here, but Wilf has given what 14 years to this club ..

Edited by kev64 (21 Aug 2020 9.20pm)

He can't hack it a big club, don't see why your blaming Moyes. If he had the right attitude and talent,he would of succeeded.

I thought we finished 14th, so there were 6 worse teams than us!

You agree that Lombardo was the most talented player to wear the shirt, how long for isn't a crieria .

Edited by Painter (22 Aug 2020 8.53am)

Eaglecoops CR3 23 Aug 20 6.03am
It’s all very quiet on the Zaha front. Probably means one of two things. 1) no-one is interested because he is too expensive. 2) there is interest but for once there are discussions going on in the background the press aren’t aware of. This has to be the first time in 4 or 5 windows that the press haven’t been all over this like a rash and I am surprised there are no reported offers as yet. It may well be that even the bigger teams are looking to offload before spending big and as of yet there seems to have been little sign of such transfer activity. It may all happen in a flurry, or it may not happen at all.

Eaglecoops

CR3 23 Aug 20 6.03am

It’s all very quiet on the Zaha front. Probably means one of two things.

1) no-one is interested because he is too expensive.
2) there is interest but for once there are discussions going on in the background the press aren’t aware of.

This has to be the first time in 4 or 5 windows that the press haven’t been all over this like a rash and I am surprised there are no reported offers as yet. It may well be that even the bigger teams are looking to offload before spending big and as of yet there seems to have been little sign of such transfer activity.

It may all happen in a flurry, or it may not happen at all.

antipodeagle Wellington 23 Aug 20 6.13am
Originally posted by Canterbury Palace The problem with Wilf, other than him spending the last 15 months desperately trying to leave and being a bit of a dick about it, is that he has become fairly ineffective for us because teams know they can double/treble up on him and we haven't got the weapons elsewhere to punish them. It wasn't the case when we had Bolasie on the other side which is why they both did so well but, if we're being honest, Andros is a million miles from peak Bolasie. Obviously Fraser being pursued as a replacement but imagine if we ended up with both. Fraser on the left and Wilf on the right could cause absolute carnage. My dream ticket would be Traore (who might be on the way out from Wolves) on the right and Zaha on the left. That really would be back to the Zaha/Bolasie (at peak) days, but alas only affordable if we sold Wilf, I would imagine.

antipodeagle

Wellington 23 Aug 20 6.13am

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

It wasn't the case when we had Bolasie on the other side which is why they both did so well but, if we're being honest, Andros is a million miles from peak Bolasie.

Obviously Fraser being pursued as a replacement but imagine if we ended up with both. Fraser on the left and Wilf on the right could cause absolute carnage.

My dream ticket would be Traore (who might be on the way out from Wolves) on the right and Zaha on the left. That really would be back to the Zaha/Bolasie (at peak) days, but alas only affordable if we sold Wilf, I would imagine.

lefty27 ipswich 23 Aug 20 8.14am
Originally posted by antipodeagle My dream ticket would be Traore (who might be on the way out from Wolves) on the right and Zaha on the left. That really would be back to the Zaha/Bolasie (at peak) days, but alas only affordable if we sold Wilf, I would imagine. Why on earth would Traore come to Palace? Wolves are competing for the top six. We are in the premier to make up the numbers! We had a chance to sign him a few years ago when he was at Villa but he ended at Middlesbrough. If he goes anywhere it will be a top 4 club.

lefty27

ipswich 23 Aug 20 8.14am

Originally posted by antipodeagle

Why on earth would Traore come to Palace? Wolves are competing for the top six. We are in the premier to make up the numbers!
We had a chance to sign him a few years ago when he was at Villa but he ended at Middlesbrough.
If he goes anywhere it will be a top 4 club.

slubglurge welling 23 Aug 20 8.46am
If we haven't had serious bids when the Saints game comes around around will Roy play him?

slubglurge

welling 23 Aug 20 8.46am

If we haven't had serious bids when the Saints game comes around around will Roy play him?

taylors lovechild 23 Aug 20 9.06am
Originally posted by slubglurge If we haven't had serious bids when the Saints game comes around around will Roy play him? If there are no bids then I would be surprised if he didn't. Wilf is still picking up around 500k a month, so while he is here he needs to earn it. Wilf might also see it as his last chance to impress if no offers are fothcoming.

taylors lovechild

23 Aug 20 9.06am

Originally posted by slubglurge

If we haven't had serious bids when the Saints game comes around around will Roy play him?

If there are no bids then I would be surprised if he didn't. Wilf is still picking up around 500k a month, so while he is here he needs to earn it. Wilf might also see it as his last chance to impress if no offers are fothcoming.

Spiderman Horsham 23 Aug 20 9.37am
Originally posted by slubglurge If we haven't had serious bids when the Saints game comes around around will Roy play him? Interesting point, especially as old ferret face seems to revel in winding Wilf up

Spiderman

Horsham 23 Aug 20 9.37am

Originally posted by slubglurge

If we haven't had serious bids when the Saints game comes around around will Roy play him?

Interesting point, especially as old ferret face seems to revel in winding Wilf up

coulsdoneagle London 23 Aug 20 9.46am
Originally posted by Phil’s Barber He was next to useless last year (and more than likely a disruptive influence off the Pitch). No way was he the reason we stayed up last year. He was still one of our highest performing players according to whoscored etc. He still carried the ball more than any other player and completed more runs and passes than almost every other player in his worst season with us. As for the disruptive influence, you have just pulled that out of your @rsehole.

coulsdoneagle

London 23 Aug 20 9.46am

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

He was next to useless last year (and more than likely a disruptive influence off the Pitch). No way was he the reason we stayed up last year.

He was still one of our highest performing players according to whoscored etc. He still carried the ball more than any other player and completed more runs and passes than almost every other player in his worst season with us.

As for the disruptive influence, you have just pulled that out of your @rsehole.

EddieMac 23 Aug 20 10.04am
Originally posted by coulsdoneagle He was still one of our highest performing players according to whoscored etc. He still carried the ball more than any other player and completed more runs and passes than almost every other player in his worst season with us. As for the disruptive influence, you have just pulled that out of your @rsehole. Well said. There is some rubbish sprouted on this site. Fans just making up nonsense that Wilf is a disruptive influence.

EddieMac

23 Aug 20 10.04am

Originally posted by coulsdoneagle

As for the disruptive influence, you have just pulled that out of your @rsehole.

Well said. There is some rubbish sprouted on this site. Fans just making up nonsense that Wilf is a disruptive influence.

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