I vowed to not get dragged back into the general discussion on this issue as it never gets anywhere or achieves anything other than vitriol. But I will explain this.

I would prefer that no group of any kind are stigmatised because some people who originate within it have committed criminal acts. That applies to everyone. The same principal applies in other circumstances. It applies to football supporters not all being categorised as hooligans, politicians not all being thought self serving or people from Brighton all being gay.

It has zilch to do with any "hippy trippy idealism"! Such an idea brought a big smile to my face. If you knew me you would realise I am as far from being a "hippy" as it's possible to be. It's only to do with fairness and, actually, to try to make sure the "pakistani Muslim" community stay inside our tent, and help solve the problem, rather than isolating them and making things worse.

But they didn't did they. And they won't will they.

What you hope for and your take on reality seems to be the same thing for you.
Thinking that the pakistani Muslim 'community' can fix this is illogical. Do White people fix criminality in their 'community'? No. They let the authorities do it. The authorities in question failed to deal with this because they are spineless and afraid of the zeitgeist of political correctness that threatens their reputations. Our politicians fear the revealing of the ugly truth about the folly of mass immigration with this being a dreadful example, and the repercussions there might be at the ballot box and on the streets if people become fully aware of the details.

But they didn't did they. And they won't will they.

What you hope for and your take on reality seems to be the same thing for you.
Thinking that the pakistani Muslim 'community' can fix this is illogical. Do White people fix criminality in their 'community'? No. They let the authorities do it. The authorities in question failed to deal with this because they are spineless and afraid of the zeitgeist of political correctness that threatens their reputations. Our politicians fear the revealing of the ugly truth about the folly of mass immigration with this being a dreadful example, and the repercussions there might be at the ballot box and on the streets if people become fully aware of the details.

There you go, doing exactly what I suggested ought not be done.

Let's for the sake or argument say you are right and some pakistani families knew what was going on and did nothing. There are ethnic British families who keep schtum too when their relatives commit crime. Most don't and not all pakistani one's do either but are more likely to with the sort of attitude you are showing.

Would you say that Tariq Ali, for instance, would fit your description? Or Moeen Ali? Just as examples. There are many more.

This is an interesting snippet which ought to make you pause and think. A report conducted by The University of Essex found that British pakistanis identify with 'Britishness' more than any other Britons. The study is one of several recent studies that have found that pakistanis in Britain express a strong sense of belonging in Britain. The report showed that 90% of pakistanis feel a strong sense of belonging in Britain compared to 84% of white Britons.

Do you really think it's wise to risk changing that?

There you go, doing exactly what I suggested ought not be done.

Let's for the sake or argument say you are right and some pakistani families knew what was going on and did nothing. There are ethnic British families who keep schtum too when their relatives commit crime. Most don't and not all pakistani one's do either but are more likely to with the sort of attitude you are showing.

Would you say that Tariq Ali, for instance, would fit your description? Or Moeen Ali? Just as examples. There are many more.

This is an interesting snippet which ought to make you pause and think. A report conducted by The University of Essex found that British pakistanis identify with 'Britishness' more than any other Britons. The study is one of several recent studies that have found that pakistanis in Britain express a strong sense of belonging in Britain. The report showed that 90% of pakistanis feel a strong sense of belonging in Britain compared to 84% of white Britons.

Do you really think it's wise to risk changing that?

Delaying it won't help. If it hurts Labour then they would release now. As some Labour members will know what's in the report as they would have seen it in the select committee I think the leaks would already have started.

Delay would enable a diversion and defence via accusations of political opportunism.

Only a total cynic would think such a tactic might be behind this.