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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 19 Nov 20 5.52pm
Originally posted by croydon proud Ironically, JC is probably the only uncorruptable mp in the house, and as we already have a socialist pm already leading the country, I wouldn"t mind seeing Jeremy taking on Sir Keir as although he looks the part, he didn"t help JC when he was leading the party. I can"t see much difference between the green/liberal CONservatives and the labour party, especially now smokin Joe"s going to be head of the free world and will keep boris under "anners" regarding the Irish issue! Or even keep boris under "manners"!

croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 19 Nov 20 5.52pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

Ironically, JC is probably the only uncorruptable mp in the house, and as we already have a socialist pm already leading the country, I wouldn"t mind seeing Jeremy taking on Sir Keir as although he looks the part, he didn"t help JC when he was leading the party. I can"t see much difference between the green/liberal CONservatives and the labour party, especially now smokin Joe"s going to be head of the free world and will keep boris under "anners" regarding the Irish issue!

Or even keep boris under "manners"!

HKOwen Hong Kong 20 Nov 20 12.16am
So you are specifically singling out a group of Jews. Would you do the same with BAME, Catholics, LBGT etc You don't seem to get this is the kind of racism the EHRC report is supposed to help eliminate. Originally posted by serial thriller There are right wing Jews, there are left wing Jews. Don't see why that idea us so controversial? On the right are the board of deputies, on the left Jewish voices for Labour. On the far left Jewdas, on the far right the Israeli government. Edited by HKOwen (20 Nov 2020 12.22am) Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

HKOwen

Hong Kong 20 Nov 20 12.16am

So you are specifically singling out a group of Jews.

Would you do the same with BAME, Catholics, LBGT etc

You don't seem to get this is the kind of racism the EHRC report is supposed to help eliminate.

Originally posted by serial thriller

There are right wing Jews, there are left wing Jews. Don't see why that idea us so controversial?

On the right are the board of deputies, on the left Jewish voices for Labour. On the far left Jewdas, on the far right the Israeli government.

Edited by HKOwen (20 Nov 2020 12.22am)

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

HKOwen Hong Kong 20 Nov 20 12.21am
I just realised you are serious. Presumably you don't see any problem with JC's anti-semitism ( no point listing here the various other things that he has done to alienate people ) You would like to see JC being leader of the Opposition again? Everyone entitled to their opinion. Moving on let's put a few past Burnley. Originally posted by croydon proud Ironically, JC is probably the only uncorruptable mp in the house, and as we already have a socialist pm already leading the country, I wouldn"t mind seeing Jeremy taking on Sir Keir as although he looks the part, he didn"t help JC when he was leading the party. I can"t see much difference between the green/liberal CONservatives and the labour party, especially now smokin Joe"s going to be head of the free world and will keep boris under "anners" regarding the Irish issue! Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

HKOwen

Hong Kong 20 Nov 20 12.21am

I just realised you are serious.

Presumably you don't see any problem with JC's anti-semitism ( no point listing here the various other things that he has done to alienate people )

You would like to see JC being leader of the Opposition again?

Everyone entitled to their opinion.

Moving on let's put a few past Burnley.

Originally posted by croydon proud

HKOwen Hong Kong 20 Nov 20 12.27am
I agree with this but hope that the ridiculous idealogical wedge being driven into the Labour party is hammered home. At the end of the day racists blowhards like Williamson and Burgon will never do anything ( like form a new party ) that will pull their heads out of the Westminster trough at the next GE or even risk recall. Corbyn's constituents happy enough to be represented by a racist anti semite. Thornberry doesn't care as long as the money comes in and there's plenty of cake Originally posted by jeeagles Starmer is going to give Corbyn enough rope to hang himself. Again. Corbyn's "clarification" of his racism is a weak excuse. Effectively, what he is still saying is that most members of the Labour Party aren't anti-sematic. It still is not a reason for the party of have systematically ignored racism whilst he was leader. The demonization of Jewish people based on lazy stereotypes is as prevalent as ever. He still hasn't accepted that after multiple defeats at the polls that he's politically toxic. He should have stood down after the EU referendum, but like any despot he's still clinging to power in the Labour party. Corbyn will still kick up a fuss as an independent MP as stupid loudmouth racists always do. There seems to be a cult of personality around him with his supporters. I'm not sure why, because credible politicians always run rings around him. The guy was up against a minority government and managed to come out of the situation with the worst Election result since 1933! Starmer, and the more sensible members of the Labour Party realise they've got to get rip the momentum movement out of the party from the roots. There's not place in the party for the likes of Corbyn, Livingston, Galloway, Long-Bailey, or Abbot, unless you want a Tory government. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

HKOwen

Hong Kong 20 Nov 20 12.27am

I agree with this but hope that the ridiculous idealogical wedge being driven into the Labour party is hammered home.

At the end of the day racists blowhards like Williamson and Burgon will never do anything ( like form a new party ) that will pull their heads out of the Westminster trough at the next GE or even risk recall.

Corbyn's constituents happy enough to be represented by a racist anti semite.

Thornberry doesn't care as long as the money comes in and there's plenty of cake

Originally posted by jeeagles

Starmer is going to give Corbyn enough rope to hang himself. Again.

Corbyn's "clarification" of his racism is a weak excuse. Effectively, what he is still saying is that most members of the Labour Party aren't anti-sematic. It still is not a reason for the party of have systematically ignored racism whilst he was leader. The demonization of Jewish people based on lazy stereotypes is as prevalent as ever.

He still hasn't accepted that after multiple defeats at the polls that he's politically toxic. He should have stood down after the EU referendum, but like any despot he's still clinging to power in the Labour party.

Corbyn will still kick up a fuss as an independent MP as stupid loudmouth racists always do.

There seems to be a cult of personality around him with his supporters. I'm not sure why, because credible politicians always run rings around him. The guy was up against a minority government and managed to come out of the situation with the worst Election result since 1933!

Starmer, and the more sensible members of the Labour Party realise they've got to get rip the momentum movement out of the party from the roots. There's not place in the party for the likes of Corbyn, Livingston, Galloway, Long-Bailey, or Abbot, unless you want a Tory government.

cryrst The garden of England 20 Nov 20 6.06am
Originally posted by HKOwen I agree with this but hope that the ridiculous idealogical wedge being driven into the Labour party is hammered home. At the end of the day racists blowhards like Williamson and Burgon will never do anything ( like form a new party ) that will pull their heads out of the Westminster trough at the next GE or even risk recall. Corbyn's constituents happy enough to be represented by a racist anti semite. Thornberry doesn't care as long as the money comes in and there's plenty of cake And boy she looks like she likes plenty of it

cryrst

The garden of England 20 Nov 20 6.06am

Originally posted by HKOwen

I agree with this but hope that the ridiculous idealogical wedge being driven into the Labour party is hammered home.

Corbyn's constituents happy enough to be represented by a racist anti semite.

Thornberry doesn't care as long as the money comes in and there's plenty of cake

And boy she looks like she likes plenty of it

Matov 20 Nov 20 7.26am
Originally posted by cryrst And boy she looks like she likes plenty of it Although we hardly ever see her on our screens now despite her having a shadow cabinet post (still). I guess given the huge role she played in bringing down Corbyn with her imput into Labours second referendum manifesto pledge last year it is probably for the best. I must admit one of the election highlights was her trying to keep a straight face as she pledged to go to Brussels, negotiate a 'leave' deal that would then be put to British voters against a Remain option. And that she hereself would not only vote against her own deal but actively campaign for the Remain side. There was a tragic beauty to it (not her). [Link] Edited by Matov (20 Nov 2020 7.28am) "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Matov

20 Nov 20 7.26am

Originally posted by cryrst

And boy she looks like she likes plenty of it

Although we hardly ever see her on our screens now despite her having a shadow cabinet post (still). I guess given the huge role she played in bringing down Corbyn with her imput into Labours second referendum manifesto pledge last year it is probably for the best. I must admit one of the election highlights was her trying to keep a straight face as she pledged to go to Brussels, negotiate a 'leave' deal that would then be put to British voters against a Remain option. And that she hereself would not only vote against her own deal but actively campaign for the Remain side.

There was a tragic beauty to it (not her).

[Link]

Edited by Matov (20 Nov 2020 7.28am)

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

W12 20 Nov 20 8.16am
Originally posted by Matov Although we hardly ever see her on our screens now despite her having a shadow cabinet post (still). I guess given the huge role she played in bringing down Corbyn with her imput into Labours second referendum manifesto pledge last year it is probably for the best. I must admit one of the election highlights was her trying to keep a straight face as she pledged to go to Brussels, negotiate a 'leave' deal that would then be put to British voters against a Remain option. And that she hereself would not only vote against her own deal but actively campaign for the Remain side. There was a tragic beauty to it (not her). [Link] Edited by Matov (20 Nov 2020 7.28am) She was never the same after that Sarlacc scene. I think R2D2 slipped something nasty into the cocktails.

W12 20 Nov 20 8.16am

Originally posted by Matov

There was a tragic beauty to it (not her).

[Link]

Edited by Matov (20 Nov 2020 7.28am)

She was never the same after that Sarlacc scene. I think R2D2 slipped something nasty into the cocktails.

HKOwen Hong Kong 20 Nov 20 11.30am
She is a pompous, condescending idiot. I cannot understand how she passed any legal exams. We need a female ( other genders may apply ) word for a w***er. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

HKOwen

Hong Kong 20 Nov 20 11.30am

She is a pompous, condescending idiot.

I cannot understand how she passed any legal exams.

We need a female ( other genders may apply ) word for a w***er.

Mapletree Croydon 20 Nov 20 11.34am
Originally posted by HKOwen She is a pompous, condescending idiot. I cannot understand how she passed any legal exams. We need a female ( other genders may apply ) word for a w***er. Oh, we do have one It's 'Priti'.

Mapletree

Croydon 20 Nov 20 11.34am

Originally posted by HKOwen

She is a pompous, condescending idiot.

I cannot understand how she passed any legal exams.

We need a female ( other genders may apply ) word for a w***er.

Oh, we do have one

It's 'Priti'.

W12 20 Nov 20 11.41am
Originally posted by Mapletree Oh, we do have one It's 'Priti'. Wouldn't disagree but probably for different reasons.

W12 20 Nov 20 11.41am

Originally posted by Mapletree

Oh, we do have one

It's 'Priti'.

Wouldn't disagree but probably for different reasons.

jeeagles 20 Nov 20 11.50am
Originally posted by Matov Although we hardly ever see her on our screens now despite her having a shadow cabinet post (still). I guess given the huge role she played in bringing down Corbyn with her imput into Labours second referendum manifesto pledge last year it is probably for the best. I must admit one of the election highlights was her trying to keep a straight face as she pledged to go to Brussels, negotiate a 'leave' deal that would then be put to British voters against a Remain option. And that she hereself would not only vote against her own deal but actively campaign for the Remain side. There was a tragic beauty to it (not her). [Link] Edited by Matov (20 Nov 2020 7.28am) Labour's confusion over Brexit starts with Corbyn. He was the leader of the party that despite historically being a euro-sceptic campaigned (very poorly) to remain. The "incorruptible" JC threw his own beliefs out the window at the first opportunity to tell the public he was 7/10 keen on remaining. When it comes down to it, he's just an activist with no solutions to anything and never takes accountability. It's clear that the remain vote Labour supported was lost in the Labour heartlands across Wales and the North of England because the middle class racist is completely out of touch with what the people Labour traditionally represent want. He should have stood down after the referendum, but the power hungry cult that followed him were too stupid to realise they don't represent the electorate. Last years bizarre policy was simply a flawed populist attempt to grab power any way they could, regardless of what Corbyn believes. Whilst ignoring racism and failing to come up with a coherent policy on Europe it's hard to see what he did achieve as leader. I think it's possibly slightly unfair that Thornbury has to go on newsnight and defend ridiculous policies. Everyone seems to be getting the blame for not supporting Corbyn enough, but how can any self respecting Labour MP publicly support some of the bulls*** they came up with. I'm amazed that remain supporting Labour voters support him. His failures allowed both to happen.

jeeagles

20 Nov 20 11.50am

Originally posted by Matov

There was a tragic beauty to it (not her).

[Link]

Edited by Matov (20 Nov 2020 7.28am)

Labour's confusion over Brexit starts with Corbyn. He was the leader of the party that despite historically being a euro-sceptic campaigned (very poorly) to remain.

The "incorruptible" JC threw his own beliefs out the window at the first opportunity to tell the public he was 7/10 keen on remaining. When it comes down to it, he's just an activist with no solutions to anything and never takes accountability.

It's clear that the remain vote Labour supported was lost in the Labour heartlands across Wales and the North of England because the middle class racist is completely out of touch with what the people Labour traditionally represent want.

He should have stood down after the referendum, but the power hungry cult that followed him were too stupid to realise they don't represent the electorate. Last years bizarre policy was simply a flawed populist attempt to grab power any way they could, regardless of what Corbyn believes.

Whilst ignoring racism and failing to come up with a coherent policy on Europe it's hard to see what he did achieve as leader.

I think it's possibly slightly unfair that Thornbury has to go on newsnight and defend ridiculous policies. Everyone seems to be getting the blame for not supporting Corbyn enough, but how can any self respecting Labour MP publicly support some of the bulls*** they came up with.

I'm amazed that remain supporting Labour voters support him. His failures allowed both to happen.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Nov 20 11.56am
Priti Patel is strong,determined and decisive. She is popular with the membership because of her tough stance on immigration. I am sure that calls for her resignation will be rejected by Boris Johnson.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Nov 20 11.56am

Priti Patel is strong,determined and decisive.
She is popular with the membership because of her tough stance on immigration.
I am sure that calls for her resignation will be rejected by Boris Johnson.

AuntyAnne70 Tunbridge WElls 20 Nov 20 12.59pm
Really showing your true colours now Willo! She is a bully , a liar and many other things1 Sir Alex Allen resigns be cause he has principles and morals. Top of the league table for European deaths re Covid, but you carry on having a go at the BBC and Corbyn.

AuntyAnne70

Tunbridge WElls 20 Nov 20 12.59pm

Really showing your true colours now Willo!

She is a bully , a liar and many other things1

Sir Alex Allen resigns be cause he has principles and morals.

Top of the league table for European deaths re Covid,
but you carry on having a go at the BBC and Corbyn.

W12 20 Nov 20 1.01pm
Originally posted by Willo her tough stance on immigration. Oh really how so? We've just agreed to take at least a million Hong Kongers haven't we?

W12 20 Nov 20 1.01pm

Originally posted by Willo

her tough stance on immigration.

Oh really how so?

We've just agreed to take at least a million Hong Kongers haven't we?

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Nov 20 1.14pm
Originally posted by AuntyAnne70 Really showing your true colours now Willo! She is a bully , a liar and many other things1 Sir Alex Allen resigns be cause he has principles and morals. Top of the league table for European deaths re Covid, but you carry on having a go at the BBC and Corbyn. I have nailed my colours to the mast numerous times on HOL, so my views, political and otherwise have been well documented on this cherished site. We are clearly on opposite sides of the house. HOL would be a poorer place if it was an 'Echo chamber'. Edited by Willo (20 Nov 2020 1.23pm)

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Nov 20 1.14pm

Originally posted by AuntyAnne70

Really showing your true colours now Willo!

She is a bully , a liar and many other things1

Sir Alex Allen resigns be cause he has principles and morals.

Top of the league table for European deaths re Covid,
but you carry on having a go at the BBC and Corbyn.

I have nailed my colours to the mast numerous times on HOL, so my views, political and otherwise have been well documented on this cherished site.

We are clearly on opposite sides of the house.
HOL would be a poorer place if it was an 'Echo chamber'.

Edited by Willo (20 Nov 2020 1.23pm)

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Nov 20 1.18pm
Originally posted by W12 Oh really how so? We've just agreed to take at least a million Hong Kongers haven't we? The imposition of the national security law on Hong Kong marked a clear erosion of the rights and freedoms for the people of this city. The new route to the UK is part of a commitment to the people of Hong Kong. China’s introduction of national security laws on Hong Kong breached the Sino-British joint declaration outlining the terms of the 1997 territorial handover, and we could not ignore it. Anyway, the discussion subject is 'Jeremy Corbyn' ! Edited by Willo (20 Nov 2020 1.21pm)

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Nov 20 1.18pm

Originally posted by W12

Oh really how so?

We've just agreed to take at least a million Hong Kongers haven't we?

The imposition of the national security law on Hong Kong marked a clear erosion of the rights and freedoms for the people of this city.

The new route to the UK is part of a commitment to the people of Hong Kong.
China’s introduction of national security laws on Hong Kong breached the Sino-British joint declaration outlining the terms of the 1997 territorial handover, and we could not ignore it.

Anyway, the discussion subject is 'Jeremy Corbyn' !

Edited by Willo (20 Nov 2020 1.21pm)

croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 20 Nov 20 1.23pm
Originally posted by AuntyAnne70 Really showing your true colours now Willo! She is a bully , a liar and many other things1 Sir Alex Allen resigns be cause he has principles and morals. Top of the league table for European deaths re Covid, but you carry on having a go at the BBC and Corbyn. Top of the world league bar Brasil, Mexico, India and usa- all with much higher populations than us! Don"t forget pritis dodgy holiday meet with the Israeli"s!

croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 20 Nov 20 1.23pm

Originally posted by AuntyAnne70

Really showing your true colours now Willo!

She is a bully , a liar and many other things1

Sir Alex Allen resigns be cause he has principles and morals.

Top of the league table for European deaths re Covid,
but you carry on having a go at the BBC and Corbyn.

Top of the world league bar Brasil, Mexico, India and usa- all with much higher populations than us! Don"t forget pritis dodgy holiday meet with the Israeli"s!

steeleye20 Croydon 20 Nov 20 1.27pm
Originally posted by AuntyAnne70 Really showing your true colours now Willo! She is a bully , a liar and many other things1 Sir Alex Allen resigns be cause he has principles and morals. Top of the league table for European deaths re Covid, but you carry on having a go at the BBC and Corbyn. Seconded. A breath of fresh air....

steeleye20

Croydon 20 Nov 20 1.27pm

Originally posted by AuntyAnne70

Really showing your true colours now Willo!

She is a bully , a liar and many other things1

Sir Alex Allen resigns be cause he has principles and morals.

Top of the league table for European deaths re Covid,
but you carry on having a go at the BBC and Corbyn.

Seconded.

A breath of fresh air....

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Nov 20 1.34pm
Understandable deflection away from debate about Jeremy Corbyn who of course is the subject matter.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Nov 20 1.34pm

Understandable deflection away from debate about Jeremy Corbyn who of course is the subject matter.

AuntyAnne70 Tunbridge WElls 20 Nov 20 1.40pm
I was reply replying to your paragraph about Priti Patel. ie, you started the understandable deflection!

AuntyAnne70

Tunbridge WElls 20 Nov 20 1.40pm

I was reply replying to your paragraph about Priti Patel.

ie, you started the understandable deflection!

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