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Matov 12 Dec 20 11.08pm
Ok. Seeming some chatter out there that perhaps, and it is a huge perhaps, my old pal Jezza might be announcing the formation of a new political party tomorrow. Need to stress that I am not convinced but...and its a huge but...we could have a Sunday in which we get a No-Deal Brexit, the chance of a mighty bust up with the French AND the Labour party splitting in two. LOL. If Carlsberg did Sundays! (by the way, I would not stick a penny on Corbyn going full on Splitter but its fun even thinking about it). "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Matov

12 Dec 20 11.08pm

Ok. Seeming some chatter out there that perhaps, and it is a huge perhaps, my old pal Jezza might be announcing the formation of a new political party tomorrow.

Need to stress that I am not convinced but...and its a huge but...we could have a Sunday in which we get a No-Deal Brexit, the chance of a mighty bust up with the French AND the Labour party splitting in two.

LOL.

If Carlsberg did Sundays!

(by the way, I would not stick a penny on Corbyn going full on Splitter but its fun even thinking about it).

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Matov 02 Jan 21 5.59pm
More Labour party related gossip/chatter/utter BS. Rumours circulating about Starmer possibly resigning tomorrow. Suspect it is little more than froth, with none of the usual sources reporting it but who knows anything at the moment? If he is standing down I suspect it is more about him getting caught out over something outside of the Westminster bubble rather than actual politics but lets see. Plenty on the Labour side hacked off with all that 3 line whip issuing over voting for the Brexit deal but surely in they are not stupid enough to sack him over that? "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Matov

02 Jan 21 5.59pm

More Labour party related gossip/chatter/utter BS.

Rumours circulating about Starmer possibly resigning tomorrow. Suspect it is little more than froth, with none of the usual sources reporting it but who knows anything at the moment?

If he is standing down I suspect it is more about him getting caught out over something outside of the Westminster bubble rather than actual politics but lets see. Plenty on the Labour side hacked off with all that 3 line whip issuing over voting for the Brexit deal but surely in they are not stupid enough to sack him over that?

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

steeleye20 Croydon 02 Jan 21 6.20pm
Starmer must go !!!! For not opposing the government consistently. It is the constitutional duty of the opposition to oppose the government. That is what it is for, that is what our democracy should be. No doubt he is eloquent, but labour MPs must be sick of abstaining and even supporting the tories. Amazing that he has locked himself into supporting Johnson what possible logic could there be, the tories don't need his support to rule.

steeleye20

Croydon 02 Jan 21 6.20pm

Starmer must go !!!!

For not opposing the government consistently.

It is the constitutional duty of the opposition to oppose the government.

That is what it is for, that is what our democracy should be.

No doubt he is eloquent, but labour MPs must be sick of abstaining and even supporting the tories.

Amazing that he has locked himself into supporting Johnson what possible logic could there be, the tories don't need his support to rule.

Matov 02 Jan 21 6.27pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 No doubt he is eloquent, but labour MPs must be sick of abstaining and even supporting the tories. If, and it is a HUGE if, there are any legs to this story then the stab in the back is being inflicted by the Unions rather than MP's. Edited by Matov (02 Jan 2021 6.28pm) "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Matov

02 Jan 21 6.27pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

No doubt he is eloquent, but labour MPs must be sick of abstaining and even supporting the tories.

If, and it is a HUGE if, there are any legs to this story then the stab in the back is being inflicted by the Unions rather than MP's.

Edited by Matov (02 Jan 2021 6.28pm)

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

steeleye20 Croydon 02 Jan 21 6.30pm
Originally posted by Matov If, and it is a HUGE if, there are any legs to this story then the stab in the back is being inflicted by the Unions rather than MP's. Edited by Matov (02 Jan 2021 6.28pm) You are right I think, I don't know if it is true that financial support has been withdrawn.

steeleye20

Croydon 02 Jan 21 6.30pm

Originally posted by Matov

If, and it is a HUGE if, there are any legs to this story then the stab in the back is being inflicted by the Unions rather than MP's.

Edited by Matov (02 Jan 2021 6.28pm)

You are right I think, I don't know if it is true that financial support has been withdrawn.

Matov 02 Jan 21 6.40pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 You are right I think, I don't know if it is true that financial support has been withdrawn. There would be a certain sense of justice if true given Starmer's leading role in pushing Labours insane second referendum position in the run up to December 2019. Throw in the suspension of Corbyn and you have created a lot of very pissed off people in the TU movement who might just be willing to do his legs now. Because with local elections coming up in May then its a gamble. If Starmer manages to do well in those he is cemented in post until the next election. Now would be the time to move against him. And yes, the withdrawal of financial support would be the weapon they could wield. His support of the Brexit deal has not gone down well with the wider membership so he is probably in the weakest position he has been since winning the leadership election, especially with polling probably (and not seen any so am purely speculating) showing a bit of bounce for Johnson. If they want their 'et tu' moment, now is the time. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Matov

02 Jan 21 6.40pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

You are right I think, I don't know if it is true that financial support has been withdrawn.

There would be a certain sense of justice if true given Starmer's leading role in pushing Labours insane second referendum position in the run up to December 2019. Throw in the suspension of Corbyn and you have created a lot of very pissed off people in the TU movement who might just be willing to do his legs now. Because with local elections coming up in May then its a gamble. If Starmer manages to do well in those he is cemented in post until the next election.

Now would be the time to move against him. And yes, the withdrawal of financial support would be the weapon they could wield.

His support of the Brexit deal has not gone down well with the wider membership so he is probably in the weakest position he has been since winning the leadership election, especially with polling probably (and not seen any so am purely speculating) showing a bit of bounce for Johnson.

If they want their 'et tu' moment, now is the time.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

cryrst The garden of England 03 Jan 21 6.46am
Originally posted by steeleye20 Starmer must go !!!! For not opposing the government consistently. It is the constitutional duty of the opposition to oppose the government. That is what it is for, that is what our democracy should be. No doubt he is eloquent, but labour MPs must be sick of abstaining and even supporting the tories. Amazing that he has locked himself into supporting Johnson what possible logic could there be, the tories don't need his support to rule. What sort of politics is that? For the few not the many!

cryrst

The garden of England 03 Jan 21 6.46am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Starmer must go !!!!

For not opposing the government consistently.

It is the constitutional duty of the opposition to oppose the government.

That is what it is for, that is what our democracy should be.

No doubt he is eloquent, but labour MPs must be sick of abstaining and even supporting the tories.

Amazing that he has locked himself into supporting Johnson what possible logic could there be, the tories don't need his support to rule.

What sort of politics is that?
For the few not the many!

georgenorman 05 Jan 21 2.46pm
Who cares, can't see Labour winning the next couple of general elections whoever their front-person is.

georgenorman

05 Jan 21 2.46pm

Who cares, can't see Labour winning the next couple of general elections whoever their front-person is.

croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 05 Jan 21 3.13pm
Like Jeremy or loathe him, he is obviously an honest politician, the CONS gutter press and media circus would have tried their utmost to find something if it existed, it didn"t, no corruption there! The man obviously has something about him, apart from wooing the youngsters at glastonbury, singing his name, he has almost half a million views on the hol, who knew?

croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 05 Jan 21 3.13pm

Like Jeremy or loathe him, he is obviously an honest politician, the CONS gutter press and media circus would have tried their utmost to find something if it existed, it didn"t, no corruption there! The man obviously has something about him, apart from wooing the youngsters at glastonbury, singing his name, he has almost half a million views on the hol, who knew?

doi209 Fighting for the weak and innocent... 05 Jan 21 4.22pm
Whatever happened to NickGussett ?

doi209

Fighting for the weak and innocent... 05 Jan 21 4.22pm

Whatever happened to NickGussett ?

jeeagles 05 Jan 21 4.34pm
Originally posted by croydon proud Like Jeremy or loathe him, he is obviously an honest politician, the CONS gutter press and media circus would have tried their utmost to find something if it existed, it didn"t, no corruption there! The man obviously has something about him, apart from wooing the youngsters at glastonbury, singing his name, he has almost half a million views on the hol, who knew? Interesting way to describe the Equalities and Human Rights Commission. Edited by jeeagles (05 Jan 2021 4.34pm)

jeeagles

05 Jan 21 4.34pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

Like Jeremy or loathe him, he is obviously an honest politician, the CONS gutter press and media circus would have tried their utmost to find something if it existed, it didn"t, no corruption there! The man obviously has something about him, apart from wooing the youngsters at glastonbury, singing his name, he has almost half a million views on the hol, who knew?

Interesting way to describe the Equalities and Human Rights Commission.

Edited by jeeagles (05 Jan 2021 4.34pm)

croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 05 Jan 21 4.46pm
Originally posted by doi209 Whatever happened to NickGussett ? He left the site 1094 days ago mate-think he had enough of flak he was taking, wisbeach has taken his roll, fair play to nick, he took a lot of shifting!

croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 05 Jan 21 4.46pm

Originally posted by doi209

Whatever happened to NickGussett ?

He left the site 1094 days ago mate-think he had enough of flak he was taking, wisbeach has taken his roll, fair play to nick, he took a lot of shifting!

Hrolf The Ganger 05 Jan 21 5.40pm
Originally posted by croydon proud He left the site 1094 days ago mate-think he had enough of flak he was taking, wisbeach has taken his roll, fair play to nick, he took a lot of shifting! He got banned, like he has from every other Palace site.

Hrolf The Ganger

05 Jan 21 5.40pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

He left the site 1094 days ago mate-think he had enough of flak he was taking, wisbeach has taken his roll, fair play to nick, he took a lot of shifting!

He got banned, like he has from every other Palace site.

croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 05 Jan 21 8.39pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger He got banned, like he has from every other Palace site. Or he might of got banned , 1094 days ago to be precise, the guy was under attack from certain posters for anything he did, probably lost it in the end and posted something "illegal" to the mods, wisbeach has taken the mantle and is getting the same treatment from the same people, he is also doing well considering the flak he takes, fair play nick, fair play wisbeach!

croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 05 Jan 21 8.39pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

He got banned, like he has from every other Palace site.

Or he might of got banned , 1094 days ago to be precise, the guy was under attack from certain posters for anything he did, probably lost it in the end and posted something "illegal" to the mods, wisbeach has taken the mantle and is getting the same treatment from the same people, he is also doing well considering the flak he takes, fair play nick, fair play wisbeach!

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Jan 21 8.58pm
Originally posted by croydon proud Or he might of got banned , 1094 days ago to be precise, the guy was under attack from certain posters for anything he did, probably lost it in the end and posted something "illegal" to the mods, wisbeach has taken the mantle and is getting the same treatment from the same people, he is also doing well considering the flak he takes, fair play nick, fair play wisbeach! Some of us have taken some 'Flak' on this site and I was often the target for ordure and opprobrium, labelled an "Attention seeker" etc etc. Was even yellow carded for my efforts! No hard feelings.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Jan 21 8.58pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

Some of us have taken some 'Flak' on this site and I was often the target for ordure and opprobrium, labelled an "Attention seeker" etc etc.
Was even yellow carded for my efforts!
No hard feelings.

croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 05 Jan 21 9.00pm
Originally posted by Willo Some of us have taken some 'Flak' on this site and I was often the target for ordure and opprobrium, labelled an "Attention seeker" etc etc. Was even yellow carded for my efforts! No hard feelings. None taken mate, none taken.

croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 05 Jan 21 9.00pm

Originally posted by Willo

Some of us have taken some 'Flak' on this site and I was often the target for ordure and opprobrium, labelled an "Attention seeker" etc etc.
Was even yellow carded for my efforts!
No hard feelings.

None taken mate, none taken.

Hrolf The Ganger 05 Jan 21 9.23pm
Originally posted by croydon proud Or he might of got banned , 1094 days ago to be precise, the guy was under attack from certain posters for anything he did, probably lost it in the end and posted something "illegal" to the mods, wisbeach has taken the mantle and is getting the same treatment from the same people, he is also doing well considering the flak he takes, fair play nick, fair play wisbeach! The bloke was a totally obsessed nutcase and supporting him is not a good look. There is a line to be drawn with behaviour on the internet, and he has crossed it on numerous occasions.

Hrolf The Ganger

05 Jan 21 9.23pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

The bloke was a totally obsessed nutcase and supporting him is not a good look.
There is a line to be drawn with behaviour on the internet, and he has crossed it on numerous occasions.

kevlee born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 05 Jan 21 10.04pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger The bloke was a totally obsessed nutcase and supporting him is not a good look. There is a line to be drawn with behaviour on the internet, and he has crossed it on numerous occasions. Any normal person reading the News/ Politics thread on this site for the first would think the Palace fan base is full of totally obsessed nutcases!! Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978

kevlee

born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 05 Jan 21 10.04pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The bloke was a totally obsessed nutcase and supporting him is not a good look.
There is a line to be drawn with behaviour on the internet, and he has crossed it on numerous occasions.

Any normal person reading the News/ Politics thread on this site for the first would think the Palace fan base is full of totally obsessed nutcases!!

Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978

palace_in_frogland In a broken dream 05 Jan 21 10.10pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger The bloke was a totally obsessed nutcase and supporting him is not a good look. There is a line to be drawn with behaviour on the internet, and he has crossed it on numerous occasions. Especially when he tried to get the site closed down in a fit of pique. Not missed by many here, I'll wager.

palace_in_frogland

In a broken dream 05 Jan 21 10.10pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The bloke was a totally obsessed nutcase and supporting him is not a good look.
There is a line to be drawn with behaviour on the internet, and he has crossed it on numerous occasions.

Especially when he tried to get the site closed down in a fit of pique.

Not missed by many here, I'll wager.

jeeagles 05 Jan 21 10.17pm
Originally posted by Willo Quote nickgusset at 27 Jul 2015 5.02pm How will he make labour more unelectable? I have heard that even IF Corbyn wins the leadership battle he could be ousted by the MPs so he doesn't actually fight the 2020 election. I really don't know if this is a possibility or is being planned. I don't spend my valuable time on 'Labour' politics ! Clicked on to page 1 instead of the last page. Saw this from you Willo from back in 2015. How the political landscape has changed. JC gave the Tories confidence to call two GE's before we even made it to 2020. Labour MP's could oust him and the party is in its worst state since 1933! He's simply the worst thing to ever happen to the Labour Party. He does have a bit of weird charisma though. Labour's answer to Malcom Allyson.

jeeagles

05 Jan 21 10.17pm

Originally posted by Willo

Quote nickgusset at 27 Jul 2015 5.02pm

How will he make labour more unelectable?

I have heard that even IF Corbyn wins the leadership battle he could be ousted by the MPs so he doesn't actually fight the 2020 election.

I really don't know if this is a possibility or is being planned. I don't spend my valuable time on 'Labour' politics !

Clicked on to page 1 instead of the last page.

Saw this from you Willo from back in 2015.

How the political landscape has changed.

JC gave the Tories confidence to call two GE's before we even made it to 2020. Labour MP's could oust him and the party is in its worst state since 1933!

He's simply the worst thing to ever happen to the Labour Party.

He does have a bit of weird charisma though. Labour's answer to Malcom Allyson.

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