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braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 28 May 16 6.41pm

just the upgrade on delaney we need, and the type of CB partner scotty dann deservrs

 


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Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 28 May 16 7.06pm

Originally posted by Mwncisee

At just 24 I think this is a solid signing for cover for Dann/Delaney. Would rather have him as backup than an aging Hangeland and Mariappa and at a cost of between 4.5 mill and 6.5 mill he is cheap in todays market with potential to get better and at least retain his value

I'd be hoping for a permanent replacement for Damo. No doubt a solid defender my concern is that he goes for the long ball out of defence. Mariappa was doin the same when he came on in the Final. Personally I feel we need to play/run the ball out as much as possible. Looking at us this season we have been ineffective through the middle. Strengthen the spine of the team and I think we will see some improvement, goalie, centre back, attacking midfielder/strikers, all ball players.

Edited by Booted Eagle (28 May 2016 7.09pm)

Edited by Booted Eagle (28 May 2016 7.10pm)

 


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Mwncisee Flag Middlesbrough 28 May 16 7.21pm

Point taken but I see it a bit like what I felt we should have done with Wickham/Murray. We have a proven partnership with Dann and Damo, we can try Caulker there, ease him in a bit, if he looks shaky or he just doesn't work out then we can revert back to Dann/Damo.

Originally posted by Booted Eagle

I'd be hoping for a permanent replacement for Damo. No doubt a solid defender my concern is that he goes for the long ball out of defence. Mariappa was doin the same when he came on in the Final. Personally I feel we need to play/run the ball out as much as possible. Looking at us this season we have been ineffective through the middle. Strengthen the spine of the team and I think we will see some improvement, goalie, centre back, attacking midfielder/strikers, all ball players.

Edited by Booted Eagle (28 May 2016 7.09pm)

Edited by Booted Eagle (28 May 2016 7.10pm)

 

RDWEagle Flag 28 May 16 8.03pm

Think this would be an excellent signing if it comes off, just the sort of signing we should be making. You don't interest the scouts of as many top flight clubs as he's been at without being able to play. Young and English too big thumbs up.

 

The eagle's Flag 28 May 16 8.18pm

Would be a great signing would be great alongside dann add a attacking midfielder with another LB and 2 forwards we will be set for the new season

 

McCorry Flag Bromley 28 May 16 8.29pm

^^^

And a new keeper

 

Crystal_Clear Flag Belfast 28 May 16 9.35pm

I'm sorry but 6.5 million is too much for player that has

a) struggled for 1st team football in two premiership sides last season
b) been relegated in defences of two premiership teams
c) been identified as a player that QPR want rid of anyway

I mean we got Scott Dann for far less than that.


 

Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 28 May 16 10.01pm

I don't think we're paying £6.5m out right. Part of it will be based on appearances / performance etc..

 

Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 28 May 16 10.02pm

Good to see we're doing business early, couple of midfielders next please..

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 28 May 16 10.20pm

Struggles a bit on the turn, a bit heavy-legged at times.Supported Brentford as a boy.

 

Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 28 May 16 10.24pm

Can't go badly wrong at what is probably £4m upfront...

 

oldstand Flag Christchurch 28 May 16 10.26pm

I'm happy if he joins, he'll want to get games and will, no mug. It's definitely a signing that feels like a plus.

 

seltz85 Flag Sydney 30 May 16 2.24am

Really don't understand all the negativity about this. 24 years old, came through at Spurs so would have learnt from players such as Ledley King who was class, was brilliant when at Swansea and was tipped for England recognition.
Yes he chased the money a bit by going to Cardiff and QPR but people pinning both of those disasters on him are, in my opinion being unfair. Cardiff were never good enough to stay up, Look who was their main man for goals....and QPR were just a sh!tshow of harry Redknapp doing what he does. Spending 80k a week on Ferdinand when he clearly wasnt up to it. In training though Caulker would have got a lot from someone like him. Stick him with a solid Scott Dann let him learn some more then we have a player there. He is strong, has a bit of pace about him, which is something we dont have at the back and has experience at the top level.
Of course he didnt get into the Liverpool/Southampton teams, he went there as a back up because QPR didnt want to pay all of his wages as they are hemorrhaging money at the moment. Those clubs thought he would be good enough should he be needed and look where they finished. For me good signing.

 

Sg Bilko Flag Deurne Holland 30 May 16 7.59am

Originally posted by seltz85

Really don't understand all the negativity about this. 24 years old, came through at Spurs so would have learnt from players such as Ledley King who was class, was brilliant when at Swansea and was tipped for England recognition.
Yes he chased the money a bit by going to Cardiff and QPR but people pinning both of those disasters on him are, in my opinion being unfair. Cardiff were never good enough to stay up, Look who was their main man for goals....and QPR were just a sh!tshow of harry Redknapp doing what he does. Spending 80k a week on Ferdinand when he clearly wasnt up to it. In training though Caulker would have got a lot from someone like him. Stick him with a solid Scott Dann let him learn some more then we have a player there. He is strong, has a bit of pace about him, which is something we dont have at the back and has experience at the top level.
Of course he didnt get into the Liverpool/Southampton teams, he went there as a back up because QPR didnt want to pay all of his wages as they are hemorrhaging money at the moment. Those clubs thought he would be good enough should he be needed and look where they finished. For me good signing.

But was not great at Cardiff, and QPR, and was not even in the team at Southampton, and Liverpool.

Plus why would Spurs sell an up and coming potential England CB at a knockdown price if he was so good, no they sold him because they could see he was not as good as first thought.

Good CB's are hard to find, so no club likes to sell them unless they are surplus to requirements, and he was not that at Spurs as they still have not found a genuine replacement for King.

 

regal_eagle Flag somewhere 30 May 16 10.37am

Hell NO.

We would get relegated with him in defence & he (allegedly) has a drink problem.

Why do we keep gifting QPR top dollar for sub-standard players?

Leave well alone Palace !!!

 

seltz85 Flag Sydney 31 May 16 3.47am

Originally posted by Sg Bilko

But was not great at Cardiff, and QPR, and was not even in the team at Southampton, and Liverpool.

Plus why would Spurs sell an up and coming potential England CB at a knockdown price if he was so good, no they sold him because they could see he was not as good as first thought.

Good CB's are hard to find, so no club likes to sell them unless they are surplus to requirements, and he was not that at Spurs as they still have not found a genuine replacement for King.

Spurs have done alright with Aldervwield and Vertonghen in there now. When they sold himi, he had just played in the Olympics and needed to play regular first team football to have any hope of making waves and getting into England squad. As many have said, there is no point keeping an unhappy player.
Cardiff wasn't the best move for hiim I admit, but he was guaranteed first team football in the premiership. Yes they were crap but that was not all on him, he did ok can you name me the rest of that Cardiff back 4 and how many of them were kept at a higher level?

QPR was his major f**k up. He clearly went for money and therefore his career has stalled. You are right, good CBs are hard to find but good CBs don't want to be sat on a bench at a top 4 club,t hey want to be playing. He has all the attributes to be a top CB with a bit of love and game time I think he will be.

 

Brisbane Eagle Flag Brisbane 31 May 16 4.17am

Wouldn't touch him at the price and wages he is on. Has no form to offer over last 3 seasons. We have taken the best Cardiff had to offer in Mutch and Campbell and come up short in both cases. Pass

 

Sg Bilko Flag Deurne Holland 31 May 16 7.19am

Originally posted by seltz85

Spurs have done alright with Aldervwield and Vertonghen in there now. When they sold himi, he had just played in the Olympics and needed to play regular first team football to have any hope of making waves and getting into England squad. As many have said, there is no point keeping an unhappy player.
Cardiff wasn't the best move for hiim I admit, but he was guaranteed first team football in the premiership. Yes they were crap but that was not all on him, he did ok can you name me the rest of that Cardiff back 4 and how many of them were kept at a higher level?

QPR was his major f**k up. He clearly went for money and therefore his career has stalled. You are right, good CBs are hard to find but good CBs don't want to be sat on a bench at a top 4 club,t hey want to be playing. He has all the attributes to be a top CB with a bit of love and game time I think he will be.

When Spurs sold him they were far from a good side, and King was constantly injured, then retired the following season.

I beg to differ, he has poor judgement, and is too inconsistent in the middle, and as you pointed out he's a mercenary only after as much money as he can get and at only £4.5m he is far to expensive to play at U12 level, yes U12.

 

james03 Flag Bangkok 31 May 16 7.29am

It is all very well making judgments but how many games have you seen him play? I have seen thirty plus games he has featured in and, obviously, most of those for Cardiff and Q.P.R.

At Cardiff he was average in a poor side. There were a number of basic errors from him that led to them conceding a goal but overall he had a six out of ten season.

Q.P.R was different. They were a poor side and Caulker's regular woeful defending, weak in the challenge and often out of position was one of the primary reasons they were so damn awful.

He may, of course, still yet make the grade but right now he is a long way off. Were Q.P.R to let him go for, say, one million then he is worth a punt and then see if we can knock him in to shape. Six and a half million though - really somebody is having a laugh.

 


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Eltham Eagle Flag 31 May 16 8.02am

Have a good friend who is a QPR fan. He said he would drive the player over himself if we're prepared to pay that money. To quote him "He's sh1t and on the booze".

Of course, you never know if rumours are true, but there seems a little too much for taking the risk IMO (no smoke without fire, etc).

 


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