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Coutts VS Nigel Farage
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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 10.21pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
The whim was that some banks decided it wasn't worth their while to apply for the necessary permissions to continue. If true, it's not a whim. It's a business decision.
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Teddy Eagle  30 Jul 23 10.37pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
If true, it's not a whim. It's a business decision. It is true and it's not Farage's fault that Barclays decided their £100,000,000 a week profits weren't enough to cover a service for their customers.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 23 10.59pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
It is true and it's not Farage's fault that Barclays decided their £100,000,000 a week profits weren't enough to cover a service for their customers. Who said it was his fault? The accusation is about the hypocrisy he is now engaged in by milking his public display of his private affairs and making a fuss about "all the others who have been debanked", when he could, and perhaps should, have been making the same point you made above. He isn't, and probably won't, because it would turn the spotlight back on him as the architect of the base reason for their closure.
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| Teddy Eagle 30 Jul 23 11.17pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Who said it was his fault? The accusation is about the hypocrisy he is now engaged in by milking his public display of his private affairs and making a fuss about "all the others who have been debanked", when he could, and perhaps should, have been making the same point you made above. He isn't, and probably won't, because it would turn the spotlight back on him as the architect of the base reason for their closure. If he is indeed a hypocrite then what's the big deal? By your own admission politics is full of truth economists but hypocrisy is worse?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Jul 23 8.27am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
If he is indeed a hypocrite then what's the big deal? By your own admission politics is full of truth economists but hypocrisy is worse? That's for everyone to judge for themselves. My view is that Farage tries to portray himself as different to other politicians. He likes to be seen as a beer-swilling man of the people. "Good ol Nigel", who's one of us and on our side. When the truth is he is no different at all. He comes from a privileged background and made loads of money in the City before becoming obsessed with our EU membership and becoming a populist politician. A politician whose approach harnesses xenophobia as a motive force to drive policies that, in my view, damage our country. Exposing his hypocritical character and showing him to be every bit, and often much more, a devious politician than all the rest may open the eyes of some people and enable them to see him in a fresh light. My own view of Farage hardened when I saw him fawning over Trump, someone I regard as the worst political development I have witnessed in my lifetime. In many ways, Farage is our Trump. Not so extreme, or corrupt, but that's mainly because of the environment within which both operate. The two of them supporting each other makes my buttocks wince. His now using GB News as a free daily political platform is similar to the way Trump used to use Twitter. Bypass the pesky need to have journalists report and analyse what you say. Go directly to the people and get your spin straight into their ears, unfiltered. Posing as a journalist yourself is a clever way of fooling the people again, just as he did in 2016. This is populist politics and it's unhealthy. Read the thread on Netanyahu to understand why.
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| Teddy Eagle 31 Jul 23 8.50am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That's for everyone to judge for themselves. My view is that Farage tries to portray himself as different to other politicians. He likes to be seen as a beer-swilling man of the people. "Good ol Nigel", who's one of us and on our side. When the truth is he is no different at all. He comes from a privileged background and made loads of money in the City before becoming obsessed with our EU membership and becoming a populist politician. A politician whose approach harnesses xenophobia as a motive force to drive policies that, in my view, damage our country. Exposing his hypocritical character and showing him to be every bit, and often much more, a devious politician than all the rest may open the eyes of some people and enable them to see him in a fresh light. My own view of Farage hardened when I saw him fawning over Trump, someone I regard as the worst political development I have witnessed in my lifetime. In many ways, Farage is our Trump. Not so extreme, or corrupt, but that's mainly because of the environment within which both operate. The two of them supporting each other makes my buttocks wince. His now using GB News as a free daily political platform is similar to the way Trump used to use Twitter. Bypass the pesky need to have journalists report and analyse what you say. Go directly to the people and get your spin straight into their ears, unfiltered. Posing as a journalist yourself is a clever way of fooling the people again, just as he did in 2016. This is populist politics and it's unhealthy. Read the thread on Netanyahu to understand why. Trump is the worst political development of your lifetime? That's some claim considering Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao, Amin. Gaddafi, Saddam, Mugabe and Hitler were also included in that period.
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 31 Jul 23 8.54am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
From what I have read some banks were able to find work-arounds, so maybe you have been lucky. I think Santander, being a Spanish bank, were able to do that, but I am not certain. Others have not been so lucky. Many thousands lost their accounts. not Santander, wrong again.....getting to be a habit,isnt it?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Jul 23 12.20pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Trump is the worst political development of your lifetime? That's some claim considering Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao, Amin. Gaddafi, Saddam, Mugabe and Hitler were also included in that period. Hitler's influence was all but over when I was born. I was only 9 when Stalin died. There's more of an argument for Mao. The others were all much more regional in their impact. I single out Trump because of the power and influence of the USA and its connection to us and the rest of the Western democracies. Maybe Farage is no worse, that's debatable, but he is no better. That's the point. He isn't the champion of the common man, untouched by a corrupt system, that he pretends to be.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Jul 23 12.30pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I see that Wisbech has made this thread all about Brexit again. Brexit is done. Meanwhile... Wisbech thinks it's OK to close bank accounts because of political opinions. He actually defends that policy. Think about that. This is the view of the self proclaimed 'one nation conservative'. This Tory party have done nothing to conserve what is left of Britishness. Heaven help us when Starmer gets in. It won't be long before the veneer of middle ground politics evaporates and the loons rear their heads again. Untrue. This thread is about the closure of Farage's account by Coutts. As Farage and Brexit are uniquely linked his activity during that period it is inevitably going to be referred to at some point. It has nothing to do with any opinion of me. Or the left. Or the Tory party. Or Starmer. Or the closure of bank accounts because of political opinions. Just the closure of Farage's account by Coutts, which was for reputational reasons.
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| Teddy Eagle 31 Jul 23 12.34pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Hitler's influence was all but over when I was born. I was only 9 when Stalin died. There's more of an argument for Mao. The others were all much more regional in their impact. I single out Trump because of the power and influence of the USA and its connection to us and the rest of the Western democracies. Maybe Farage is no worse, that's debatable, but he is no better. That's the point. He isn't the champion of the common man, untouched by a corrupt system, that he pretends to be. Their impact may have been regional but it resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands, in some cases many millions, of people.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 31 Jul 23 12.39pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Untrue. This thread is about the closure of Farage's account by Coutts. As Farage and Brexit are uniquely linked his activity during that period it is inevitably going to be referred to at some point. It has nothing to do with any opinion of me. Or the left. Or the Tory party. Or Starmer. Or the closure of bank accounts because of political opinions. Just the closure of Farage's account by Coutts, which was for reputational reasons. Which is code for cancelling people for wrong think.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 31 Jul 23 12.42pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
It is true and it's not Farage's fault that Barclays decided their £100,000,000 a week profits weren't enough to cover a service for their customers. And that was my point Teddy. If banks had their way probably many of us would not have accounts as we are not deemed profitable, so they look for any opportunity to close accounts or branches. Brexit did not force banks to close the accounts of non domiciles but I expect they looked at the value of those clients and decided it was a good opportunity to get rid and blame Brexit.
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| Teddy Eagle 31 Jul 23 1.14pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
And that was my point Teddy. If banks had their way probably many of us would not have accounts as we are not deemed profitable, so they look for any opportunity to close accounts or branches. Brexit did not force banks to close the accounts of non domiciles but I expect they looked at the value of those clients and decided it was a good opportunity to get rid and blame Brexit. Quite. At least Coutts have the option of refusing an account to anyone who doesn't either have or owe millions.
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 31 Jul 23 2.21pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
How is it not true about Private Godfrey in the White House? Godfrey's character was a war hero, please don't stain him with a Biden comparison
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Jul 23 3.55pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Their impact may have been regional but it resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands, in some cases many millions, of people. I don't remember ever being worried about a nuclear disaster caused by any of them, other than Trump. They were appalling despots who created much misery in their countries which, of course, deserves the strongest condemnation. Despots have existed throughout history. The impact of Trump is though on another level internationally. You of course have a point though, which is acknowledged. It depends how you look at such things.
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| Teddy Eagle 31 Jul 23 3.59pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I don't remember ever being worried about a nuclear disaster caused by any of them, other than Trump. They were appalling despots who created much misery in their countries which, of course, deserves the strongest condemnation. Despots have existed throughout history. The impact of Trump is though on another level internationally. You of course have a point though, which is acknowledged. It depends how you look at such things. That's fair enough.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Jul 23 3.59pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Which is code for cancelling people for wrong think. Only to people who see deviousness around every corner. Banks don't have opinions. They aren't people. They have objectives. To reach them they may assess what the opinions of their customers are likely to be.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 31 Jul 23 4.09pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
And that was my point Teddy. If banks had their way probably many of us would not have accounts as we are not deemed profitable, so they look for any opportunity to close accounts or branches. Brexit did not force banks to close the accounts of non domiciles but I expect they looked at the value of those clients and decided it was a good opportunity to get rid and blame Brexit. That is not what every report I have read suggests. Some were able to find a way, others could not.
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