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  Hrolf The Ganger  29 Nov 16 12.46pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
Listening to experts is SO 2015. Post truth?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 29 Nov 16 12.49pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Post truth? In your case, post bollocks.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 29 Nov 16 12.59pm |
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Originally posted by Pista
A ridiculous idea that anyone is 100% anything. The only certainty is that we all decended from Africans. What comrade Kermy was trying to imply, as he well knows, is that somehow the make up of the population of Britain has always been changing and that means that any fuss about the current enormous rates of mass migration is silly. It is of course another liberal brainwashing ploy to change history to suit their agenda. At no time, I repeat, at no time in the history of Britain has the population ever been altered to the extent it is being now. Despite Roman, Anglo Saxon, Danish, Irish and Norman influence, not a lot has changed in the gene pool for thousands of years. Now I hope that has cleared it up. Now back to Brexit.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 29 Nov 16 1.01pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
In your case, post bollocks. What is bollocks Gusset? The truth? I know you guys don't bother with stuff like the truth.
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| blackpalacefan 29 Nov 16 1.05pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I expect that you are going to say that a discussion about the genetic make up of Britain is racist? lol. Come on BPF. We both know... that people are the same where ever you go........ I expect that I won't. It may be a good idea to talk about the EU vote instead. It's a subject interesting enough in its own right.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 29 Nov 16 1.16pm |
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Originally posted by blackpalacefan
I expect that I won't. It may be a good idea to talk about the EU vote instead. It's a subject interesting enough in its own right. I'm sorry BPF. I just get tired of seeing the same old inaccurate tosh being spread around the internet by the same old people. You were right about one thing. The vote for Brexit was not necessarily down racial lines. It is more about what serves the best interests of the individual voter. That is obviously a personal decision.
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| blackpalacefan 29 Nov 16 1.21pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I'm sorry BPF. I just get tired of seeing the same old inaccurate tosh being spread around the internet by the same old people. You were right about one thing. The vote for Brexit was not necessarily down racial lines. It is more about what serves the best interests of the individual voter. That is obviously a personal decision. Yes I think people have all manner of reasons to vote as they did. And I do think from May's perspective it would've been best to have enacted article 50 straight away then dealt with whatever came after. The longer she dithers the more complex it becomes. I don't really blame remainers or leavers for being unhappy, it's more due to being caught in limbo and people not knowing what comes next and when.
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Ketteridge  Brighton 29 Nov 16 1.23pm |
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Originally posted by blackpalacefan
This man has it right. I have black family members who voted to leave the EU and white who voted to stay. The idea that how British a person is from birth is a meaningful measure in this debate is Im sure most would agree bunk. The impact of "foreign genes" is an irrelevance and how people define "foreign" and "impact" appears to be more concerning than anything. Thoughts about cultural cohesion and multi culturalism in general are perfectly valid, but lets not go down these other roads. It is relevant to point out statements like the majority of people outside of London can trace thier roots back to ancient Britain are incorrect. These are used to feed into a narrative as Britain as historic, distinct island race rather than an island that through trade, travel migration and invasion has always seen a mix of people and cultures and integrated them.
One supporter of hacking argued that without it "you will do away with the courage and pluck of the game, and I will be bound to bring over a lot of Frenchmen who would beat you with a week's practice -Blackheath secretary at first meeting of the F.A |
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| Hrolf The Ganger 29 Nov 16 1.33pm |
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Originally posted by blackpalacefan
Yes I think people have all manner of reasons to vote as they did. And I do think from May's perspective it would've been best to have enacted article 50 straight away then dealt with whatever came after. The longer she dithers the more complex it becomes. I don't really blame remainers or leavers for being unhappy, it's more due to being caught in limbo and people not knowing what comes next and when. I think it was assumed by many that Article 50 would kick in immediately. That was never going to be the case. For one thing, the Brexit vote caught everyone on the hop. Especially the Tories.
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| blackpalacefan 29 Nov 16 1.36pm |
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Originally posted by Ketteridge
It is relevant to point out statements like the majority of people outside of London can trace thier roots back to ancient Britain are incorrect. These are used to feed into a narrative as Britain as historic, distinct island race rather than an island that through trade, travel migration and invasion has always seen a mix of people and cultures and integrated them. In reply I posted the break down stating that from the daily mail [Link] so you make a valid point about our origins but personally I've said what I had to say and I know this place too well to imagine that minds will be changed by anything I have to say, so I drew a line under it.
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| blackpalacefan 29 Nov 16 1.41pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I think it was assumed by many that Article 50 would kick in immediately. That was never going to be the case. For one thing, the Brexit vote caught everyone on the hop. Especially the Tories. True. It's anyones guess what happens now. I'll be pleased when its a distant memory and we are set on a course and no longer leavers and remainers.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 29 Nov 16 1.45pm |
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Originally posted by Ketteridge
It is relevant to point out statements like the majority of people outside of London can trace thier roots back to ancient Britain are incorrect. These are used to feed into a narrative as Britain as historic, distinct island race rather than an island that through trade, travel migration and invasion has always seen a mix of people and cultures and integrated them. We ae talking about genes and the facts are clear. It would be ridiculous to suggest that Britain has been isolated form the rest of the world, nor has anyone suggested that. What I won't accept is the notion that the current rate and nature of immigration has any precedent in British history. That would be a lie.
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| Ketteridge Brighton 29 Nov 16 1.53pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Well you obviously believe the world is flat. The findings of genetic research has received a lot of coverage and the findings are fairly clear. If you want to interpret it differently to the experts, then good luck with that.
Sorry not sure you got how that conversation went, just to recap. You said the majority of people in the Britain, outside of London, can trace their roots back to ancient Britain. I said I'm not sure about that but if you have any links. You provided a link when I pointed the methodological problems in drawing that conclusion and that the authors weren't making that claim anyway.
One supporter of hacking argued that without it "you will do away with the courage and pluck of the game, and I will be bound to bring over a lot of Frenchmen who would beat you with a week's practice -Blackheath secretary at first meeting of the F.A |
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Kermit8  Hevon 29 Nov 16 1.56pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I'm sorry BPF. I just get tired of seeing the same old inaccurate tosh being spread around the internet by the same old people. You were right about one thing. The vote for Brexit was not necessarily down racial lines. It is more about what serves the best interests of the individual voter. That is obviously a personal decision. Hoo-rah. At last some concrete news from the Brexit camp. Once we have actually left Hrolf how long will the short-term be exactly?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 29 Nov 16 2.00pm |
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Originally posted by blackpalacefan
In reply I posted the break down stating that from the daily mail [Link] so you make a valid point about our origins but personally I've said what I had to say and I know this place too well to imagine that minds will be changed by anything I have to say, so I drew a line under it. I'm not sure how you think this proves in favour of Ketteridge. We know that Britons are partly Germanic, Danish, "celtic" from more recent and more ancient migrantions from Europe. The population has hardly changed in thousands of years. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (29 Nov 2016 2.00pm)
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| Hrolf The Ganger 29 Nov 16 2.03pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Hoo-rah. At last some concrete news from the Brexit camp. Once we have actually left Hrolf how long will the short-term be exactly? I don't know and nor do you. The only certainty I voted for was escaping from the rule of Brussels.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 29 Nov 16 2.09pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I don't know and nor do you. The only certainty I voted for was escaping from the rule of Brussels. Oh, ok. It's just that you said it was going to be 'short-term' the financial problems. When would 'short-term' cross-over into 'long-term'? What would be your limit for the former?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 29 Nov 16 2.16pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Oh, ok. It's just that you said it was going to be 'short-term' the financial problems. When would 'short-term' cross-over into 'long-term'? What would be your limit for the former? That is all secondary to me. What I do know is that you daft Remainers just want an opportunity to say I told you so.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 29 Nov 16 2.21pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
That is all secondary to me. What I do know is that you daft Remainers just want an opportunity to say I told you so. Do you actually think that people want things to go tits up just to say told you so, even if it means years, even decades, of misery?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 29 Nov 16 2.24pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Do you actually think that people want things to go tits up just to say told you so, even if it means years, even decades, of misery? Some people have very small minds, eh Nick.
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