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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 30 Nov 16 2.12pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Balance can't be on outcomes of convictions, but reports, as otherwise you miss crimes for which perpetrators are not arrested, charged etc. If you measure crime statistics on prosecutions, you'll have a major problem when it comes to sex offence reporting (given the UK has just had record high prosecution rate of 22.5% of cases). 22.5% of around 70,000 or so reported sex offences (no figure for 2016 available yet) were prosecuted. Additionally, if the perps of the '****mon' signs mentioned earlier are not caught, it doesn't mean that the offence didn't take place. How many people that break into houses to steal are caught compared to the number that aren't? It doesn't mean a crime hasn't taken place does it?
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  Hrolf The Ganger 30 Nov 16 2.32pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Personal dig after personal dig. Good work. Add hypocrisy to the list. TBF, it's already on there.
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 30 Nov 16 3.57pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Another brexiting day and I am really focussed on Mrs.May's lack of sleep in fact if she slept in the day wouldn't the country be better off? Its boring old brexit for a while as the govt. insists on spending our money on a case where winning or losing is no benefit to us - if anything it will still show that she tried to bypass parliament actually the EU are far more careful of our sovereignity than the dictator and her bunch of stooges ever will be. After all these proceedings are over its likely there will be referrals to the EU as its EU law and I think there will be plenty of legal sieges dragging out for many years. Why not just not trigger Article 50 at all and business as you were. Mrs May might even look at the county's problems then so not a good outcome in that respect.
Its the idiots that cannot accept the referendum result that is causing all the trouble and costs to us. Why do you not just see that the brexit voters won the day and stop harping on about it. May is no more a dictator than my grandson. She will do what is best for us all and the country and give it a few years and we will be totally free of the shackles that EU put on us and our trade will be ten times better. Plus we will be able to use our own laws the way that it suits us and not by the way the courts in Strasburg dictate now.. In a couple of years time the EU will cease to exist as it is now and more countries will have left like us. I am afraid the EU club is finished and also the Euro currency along with it.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 30 Nov 16 4.02pm |
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good work again. typical right wing tactic, attack the person not the message- jeremy Corbyn, Dianne Abbott, Lily Allen, Russell Brand etc etc
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| chris123 hove actually 30 Nov 16 5.55pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Balance can't be on outcomes of convictions, but reports, as otherwise you miss crimes for which perpetrators are not arrested, charged etc. If you measure crime statistics on prosecutions, you'll have a major problem when it comes to sex offence reporting (given the UK has just had record high prosecution rate of 22.5% of cases). 22.5% of around 70,000 or so reported sex offences (no figure for 2016 available yet) were prosecuted. Disagree, I want to see outcomes, as that will help drive these crime stats down.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 30 Nov 16 6.02pm |
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Originally posted by susmik
Its the idiots that cannot accept the referendum result that is causing all the trouble and costs to us. Why do you not just see that the brexit voters won the day and stop harping on about it. May is no more a dictator than my grandson. She will do what is best for us all and the country and give it a few years and we will be totally free of the shackles that EU put on us and our trade will be ten times better. Plus we will be able to use our own laws the way that it suits us and not by the way the courts in Strasburg dictate now.. In a couple of years time the EU will cease to exist as it is now and more countries will have left like us. I am afraid the EU club is finished and also the Euro currency along with it. Its that tory rag The Sun that called her a tinpot dictator. EU says no thank you to making arrangements in advance of Article 50. A nation of power and experience reduced to hate crimes a brexit banana republic.
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| chris123 hove actually 30 Nov 16 9.58pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Its that tory rag The Sun that called her a tinpot dictator. EU says no thank you to making arrangements in advance of Article 50. A nation of power and experience reduced to hate crimes a brexit banana republic. The Sun may have reported the story, but it was the hedge fund manager that won the ruling who called the PM a tinpot dictator.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 30 Nov 16 10.46pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
good work again. typical right wing tactic, attack the person not the message- jeremy Corbyn, Dianne Abbott, Lily Allen, Russell Brand etc etc Is that a new lefty super group? Really Gusset, you should be the last person complaining about playing the man. You do it daily.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 01 Dec 16 12.22pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
375,000 migrants to the UK from outside the EU from Jun 15 to Jun 16. 275,000 from the EU. Same period 335,000 moved back home or were Brits moving away. Interesting that all the focus has been on the EU migration and Brexit yet the much higher figure migration wise, which is not EU related, and it was higher the previous year too, no-one in the Brexit camp seems to bothered about that much. No campaigning. It's all EU bad this and EU bad that. Edited by Kermit8 (01 Dec 2016 10.49am) There is no doubt that all immigration has to be greatly reduced.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 01 Dec 16 12.28pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
375,000 migrants to the UK from outside the EU from Jun 15 to Jun 16. 275,000 from the EU. Same period 335,000 moved back home or were Brits moving away. Interesting that all the focus has been on the EU migration and Brexit yet the much higher figure migration wise, which is not EU related, and it was higher the previous year too, no-one in the Brexit camp seems to bothered about that much. No campaigning. It's all EU bad this and EU bad that. Edited by Kermit8 (01 Dec 2016 10.49am) Non-EU migration of course is a) controllable by the UK if it so wished and covers a much larger number of countries etc, and in many cases comes with restrictions on time and working status etc.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 01 Dec 16 7.05pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The rent being twice what we pay now for EU membership no veto or say in how the single market is run. By far the best option is not to trigger Article 50 and return to business as normal no referendums needed or court cases for decades. A seperate brexit tax should be levied on the brexit voters. Farage Johnston & co should be charged with inciting hate crimes and deception.
People want control over European immigration and anything less will be seen as a betrayal. It would also spell disaster for the left at the next election.
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| matt_himself Matataland 01 Dec 16 7.16pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Some potential common sense, at last, from the Brexit camp. We will have to pay 'rent' to the EU to have access to single market should it go down that route but at least Brexiteer Davis is not being emotive, illogical and hard about it. Do you ever get upset that no one, who can be identified as a credible poster, ever positively responds to your self important discharge? EFA. Edited by matt_himself (02 Dec 2016 7.22am)
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 01 Dec 16 7.30pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The rent being twice what we pay now for EU membership no veto or say in how the single market is run. By far the best option is not to trigger Article 50 and return to business as normal no referendums needed or court cases for decades. Lots of EEA and efta today another court challenge we think we leave them at the same time as we leave the EU but not so and not Article 50. Another little thing that the brexiteers got wrong (thats the Swiss Norway etc they do not want a deal with us it seems). A seperate brexit tax should be levied on the brexit voters. Farage Johnston & co should be charged with inciting hate crimes and deception.
Where do you come up with all this rubbish you spout everyday...We get you are a remainer but not all of us think your way I am afraid. we will have to wait and see what comes of all negotiations during Article 50 to make any sense of the real deal... Just give it a rest a post something sensible please.
Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky. |
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 01 Dec 16 11.28pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Some potential common sense, at last, from the Brexit camp. We will have to pay 'rent' to the EU to have access to single market should it go down that route but at least Brexiteer Davis is not being emotive, illogical and hard about it. That's a brilliant post Kermit.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 01 Dec 16 11.28pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Do you ever get upset that no one ever positively responds to your self important discharge? See above post.
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