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Originally posted by cryrst
7 weeks in to brexit. Just to clear up any confusion mate.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Can we have a precis please. Good anyway. My basic point is that to export to the EU the UK has to be competitive in delivery, price and quality. And it has to be easy, the most important thing, but how can that be now, many exporters have simply given up. EU people will simply buy elsewhere within the market without all the extra hassle. Treaties, rules do not decide, it is consumers, businesses, not politicians who buy and sell. We are talking 2.9% GDP? You would have to lay all our trade arrangements end to end to achieve a fraction of that. 'brexit means brexit' -.-' Our economy will adjust. And when we start matching the EU in terms of obstacles for imports then it will hurt them more than us. Then lets see who is bleating. We pay far too much for our food. We can import a lot more, a lot cheaper. At the moment, due to Covid, global trade is impacted. But once normality returns, then we will see. Yes, the EU is playing the utter w***er card at the moment. In a way it is rather gratifying. Proves what millions of us believed about it all along. It does not have to be this way but chooses to do so. As of now, and due to Covid, that has had no real impact on its exporters. This time in 18 months it will. Europe is heading for a real s*** storm. The ECB will open the coffers for just long enough to stabilise the German, and to a lesser extent, the Dutch economies, before turning off the tap. The need to keep the other smaller economies poor so that the Euro is kept as a cheap global currency allowing all those shiny German and Dutch exports to be sold is all that matters. The single s***ty Catch 22 of the entire farce that is the Euro. Brexit will be this nations saving grace.
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Sorry peoples, i ment the member for Medway said give it 6 months and see, not Steeleye! Correct but 'we' call you on it, unless you are one and the same poster
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Certain goods are constantly not on our shelves and all our prices have gone up. It's not going to go down well with voters. Sinn Fein will easily win next election.
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Certain goods are constantly not on our shelves and all our prices have gone up. It's not going to go down well with voters. Sinn Fein will easily win next election. Doesn't matter much who wins your next election, you are merely a very junior part of the EU.
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Doesn't matter much who wins your next election, you are merely a very junior part of the EU. And very much better off, in every way. And that, hopefully will be for them to decide, not Little Lord Fauntleroy with his union jack flags on school buildings.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
And very much better off, in every way. And that, hopefully will be for them to decide, not Little Lord Fauntleroy with his union jack flags on school buildings. So why are you still here?
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
I highly doubt the export issues we are currently facing will get resolved in the next 3 months. Even more unlikely now they're imploding over their inability to organise their vaccine response. Maybe 18-24 months before that gets close to some sort of resolution... and even then it won't be enough to reverse the severe damage it is doing to a vast swathe of UK businesses, from e-commerce to shellfish. It will be even worse if we fail to take advantage of the glorious position we are likely to be in as economic first movers vs. EU countries who are so far behind their vaccination programmes. Happy to be proven wrong in 3 months, though. Don"t move the goalposts SW, the member for medway said give it 6 months , you will be compared to that south croydon bloke who kept moving the trump taking back control day if you want to wait another 2 years!
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Originally posted by cryrst
Correct but 'we' call you on it, unless you are one and the same poster At least you aren"t going back on your deadline date mate, i raise a glass to you for that!(or steeleye does?)
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Certain goods are constantly not on our shelves and all our prices have gone up. It's not going to go down well with voters. Sinn Fein will easily win next election. Here"s hoping mate, love to see someone shake up the old school conservatism in the old country, I think the younger generation just don"t buy it and a change is as good as a rest! They can"t do any worse if things are as bad as you report, you seem as corrupt as the CONS here with two parties playing you, we just have one very greedy, in his own words, joker and nobody could do any worse either!
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I never gave it, or brexit, any time at all. And Raab wants us to come back to it in 10 years, when the culprits have fled back to the shires. Worse than Suez, a trend started and completed by the conservative party. A glance at a map shows us as a little dot of an island on the edge of europe, once Great Britain. You will need a microscope to see us in a few years such is the decline.
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Originally posted by croydon proud
And repeat!
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Originally posted by croydon proud
You hold people responsible for the school they went to?
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Originally posted by chris123
You hold people responsible for the school they went to? Only people that went to the best paying schools in the country, with the best chances to progress in to top paying jobs in the city, or law, to know the difference between what is right and what is wrong, what is stealing and what is legal, setting up a new company in hong kong to channel money through a crisis that should be going to the nhs is neither moral or right. If you can defend it don"t moan if you need to see a doctor at a hospital in the future and get an appointment a year after.
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Originally posted by cryrst
And repeat! Just in case someone missed it mate, and that old chestnut if you say it enough times it must be true!
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I never gave it, or brexit, any time at all. And Raab wants us to come back to it in 10 years, when the culprits have fled back to the shires. Worse than Suez, a trend started and completed by the conservative party. A glance at a map shows us as a little dot of an island on the edge of europe, once Great Britain. You will need a microscope to see us in a few years such is the decline. Surely old fashioned crypto-communists like you welcome the alleged decline of Britain - a 'little dot' that is the 5th largest economy in the world.
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Just in case someone missed it mate, and that old chestnut if you say it enough times it must be true! Its true about the over spend but the point is where would this have got us if the incentive for the manufacturers wasn't there. It was and still is a free for all for supplies, ppe and the population who can get away with it. Im not advocating overspending my money,I'm advocating it was correct to look at health and protection over money. I don't see your criticism of our spend on vaccines and I reckon its because that was money well spent and it actually has and is saving lives. The ppe could and did the same. You and ma have had the jab and I would hazard a guess you would or may have used a supplied mask or hand sanitiser on arrival for said jab. Its hypocritical to then blast the one supplying it. Your point is purely a political one as you have a personal grudge against hmg. Sometimes you have to be more holistic and zoom out and see the bigger picture for certain situations!
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Originally posted by cryrst
Its true about the over spend but the point is where would this have got us if the incentive for the manufacturers wasn't there. It was and still is a free for all for supplies, ppe and the population who can get away with it. Im not advocating overspending my money,I'm advocating it was correct to look at health and protection over money. I don't see your criticism of our spend on vaccines and I reckon its because that was money well spent and it actually has and is saving lives. The ppe could and did the same. You and ma have had the jab and I would hazard a guess you would or may have used a supplied mask or hand sanitiser on arrival for said jab. Its hypocritical to then blast the one supplying it. Your point is purely a political one as you have a personal grudge against hmg. Sometimes you have to be more holistic and zoom out and see the bigger picture for certain situations!
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