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View Wilesy01's Profile Wilesy01 Flag Bristol 03 Nov 22 12.31pm Send a Private Message to Wilesy01 Add Wilesy01 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I occasionally have a look at there politics forum, CP and Steeleye would love it. Thread after thread about hating the Tories.

However they are a strange bunch. They do have several threads about the Labour Party and Keir Starmer etc. but 90% of the posts on those are about how terrible the Tories are. The only time they talk about Starmer or Labour is if there is a positive media story.

Any negative news about Labour they ignore.

So it's basically a reverse of the Hol?

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 03 Nov 22 12.33pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Great to see the latest CONservative ploy to rid Marston of its 2400 overcrowding problem, and to keep us safe- put the asylum seekers up in an expensive hotel and know where they are? No, No, No- take them on a coach to Victoria station- and dump them off- to flee and melt in to society !Nice one Cruella

Not sure where to start with this reply.
Many have been put up in hotels. Is there actual evidence they have been left at Victoria ( apart from charities say so?).
The reason I say this is, there are claims of no food, clean clothes, showers. This is totally fabricated, I have today spoken to some BF Officers who have been working on South Coast, so have somewhat more knowledge than most.
Here is a couple of examples of what they have had to endure:
Each arrival are given clean clothes and shoes. Many throw the clothes back as they are not designer:
All are given food on arrival, thrown back and pizzas demanded, which are supplied. All at tax payer expense.
You mention some are disappearing, that is correct but many run off as they get off the dinghies without attempting to claim “asylum “, happy to disappear.
Ideally all should be detained on arrival pending application consideration, never going to happen due to lack of space.
Many of the “children” are not minors.
You will probably say I am defending the Tories again, not at all, I just get fed up with the relevant facts not being reported and people believing what suits their agenda

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 03 Nov 22 12.34pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wilesy01

So it's basically a reverse of the Hol?

At least HOL have a card system and do clamp down on personal abuse

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 03 Nov 22 12.43pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

'The UK economy is about to be thrown into a black hole – by its own government'.

Well ain't it just, everybody?

Yet they want to impose austerity and increased interest rates on the public who had no say in it not even voting for successive PMs.

We ought to be storming the barricades.

I would like to say to the tories, you caused this mate now 'effing well pay for it.

Labour supported all the financial decisions that led to this, in fact they pushed for harder and more lockdowns and they are fully behind Ukraine war policy.

It is nothing but pure opportunism by Labour and its supporters, they can only fool the goldfish among us.

The continual focus on Brexit is a falsehood as the EU economies are doing no better, in fact the UK is roughly in the middle comparatively and the only reason for that is that we have North sea gas and the Norway supply.....Which if we were in the EU right now we would be expected to share.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 Nov 22 1.17pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

At least HOL have a card system and do clamp down on personal abuse

That's half right!

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Nov 22 1.24pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Wilesy01

So it's basically a reverse of the Hol?

Tbf most on here have given Truss & Co the flack she and whoever was responsible and/or behind it all.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 Nov 22 1.25pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Not sure where to start with this reply.
Many have been put up in hotels. Is there actual evidence they have been left at Victoria ( apart from charities say so?).
The reason I say this is, there are claims of no food, clean clothes, showers. This is totally fabricated, I have today spoken to some BF Officers who have been working on South Coast, so have somewhat more knowledge than most.
Here is a couple of examples of what they have had to endure:
Each arrival are given clean clothes and shoes. Many throw the clothes back as they are not designer:
All are given food on arrival, thrown back and pizzas demanded, which are supplied. All at tax payer expense.
You mention some are disappearing, that is correct but many run off as they get off the dinghies without attempting to claim “asylum “, happy to disappear.
Ideally all should be detained on arrival pending application consideration, never going to happen due to lack of space.
Many of the “children” are not minors.
You will probably say I am defending the Tories again, not at all, I just get fed up with the relevant facts not being reported and people believing what suits their agenda

I am quite sure this is 100% true. The BF officers I have heard speaking about this seem compassionate, patient and extremely frustrated, whilst being asked to do an impossible job, yet still take criticism from all sides.

They urgently need support or someone is going to get seriously hurt. As we have agreed before there is no obvious solution, so I hope someone can get a grip on this and come up with an innovative plan that everyone can get behind and for the political mud slinging to stop. That's in everyone's interests.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 Nov 22 1.39pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Anyone who has read WE's posts over these years just has to laugh at that.

Just off the top of my head I recall he called people he didn't like a 'sub species' and only the other day made some quite underhand suggestions on how I left teaching....which aren't true but were quite offensive in of themselves.

His mirror only works one way.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Nov 2022 9.08pm)

I don't recall the context of the "sub species" comment. It must have been years ago. There certainly have been some here whose approach seemed at odds with what I regard as normal human behaviour. Perhaps I was being a little sarcastic, who knows?

If I recall correctly my remark about how and why people leave jobs was a general one and not directed specifically at anyone in particular. Therefore the only reason anyone would get upset is because it touched a nerve somewhere. The innocent have nothing to fear from remarks that don't apply to them, whatever the context.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 Nov 22 1.52pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wilesy01

So it's basically a reverse of the Hol?

I don't use the BBS, and only occasionally dip into their football related forums. Never the politics.

However, if what is suggested is that it predominately a Tory hating and that this makes it the reverse of the Hol, I don't think that's true.

This forum is not really a Tory stronghold. It is a right wing stronghold. Many of the views expressed are more in tune with UKIP and Farage than they are with traditional Tory values.

Sure the ERG are a significant element within the party but, as their influence wanes, so the level of criticism of Tory policies has increased here. The centralist part of the Tory party is hated every bit, and sometimes more, than Labour is here.

Truss was even given a welcome, until the disaster she obviously was going to be became apparent to even the hardest of the brass nosed here.

 


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Originally posted by Spiderman

ME have you been making friends on the bbs again? Some on there really are a breed apart. Hoping many brexiteers are now dead, all tories are racist c***s. Unbelievable

I thought that I'd mistakenly ventured on to the Millwall forum.

It's not just the thickos in the politics forum as it seems that they monopolize other forums too and insult anyone who disagrees with them.

One fellow monopolizes a thread about outdoor smokers detailing what and how he cooks things and I had the temerity to suggest that I didn't like the taste of smoked meats covered in rubs to which he told me that I was obviously new to barbecuing and was doing it all wrong.

I probably bought my first bbq before he was born but many of the dicks over there don't like anyone with a different opinion on anything be it politics or food

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I don't recall the context of the "sub species" comment. It must have been years ago. There certainly have been some here whose approach seemed at odds with what I regard as normal human behaviour. Perhaps I was being a little sarcastic, who knows?

If I recall correctly my remark about how and why people leave jobs was a general one and not directed specifically at anyone in particular. Therefore the only reason anyone would get upset is because it touched a nerve somewhere. The innocent have nothing to fear from remarks that don't apply to them, whatever the context.

I think some people are liars and they know they are but they just don't care. Perhaps it's because of their profound lack of integrity.

 


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The continuation in high average excess deaths is sadly still very much with us: the media are not that interested.

Here is Dr John Campbell on the issue.

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Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Nov 2022 4.00pm)

 


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